July 2015 Illinois Bar Exam

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Re: July 2015 Illinois Bar Exam

Postby tigershark » Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:28 am

K Rock wrote:
kyle010723 wrote:So passage rate is about 75%? (Between 22 and 31 percentile)


Yes. I like that you took the glass half full approach, whereas I was immediately like "oh 25% of people failed."


I don't know what to make of all of this. But people did better on this year's essays compared to last year. Yay?

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Re: July 2015 Illinois Bar Exam

Postby swimmer11 » Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:31 am

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K Rock wrote:https://www.ilbaradmissions.org/percentile-equivalent-charts-july-2015

Here is the percentile chart for July 2015. I don't think they posted it yet, I found it through trickery and thievery and such.


So passage rate is about 75%? (Between 22 and 31 percentile)


So, they have everything finished and can't just release the results. Ugh. So annoyed.

And, this is lower than last Feb and July, correct?

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Re: July 2015 Illinois Bar Exam

Postby tigershark » Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:31 am

K Rock wrote:
kyle010723 wrote:So passage rate is about 75%? (Between 22 and 31 percentile)


Yes. I like that you took the glass half full approach, whereas I was immediately like "oh 25% of people failed."


Guys excuse my ignorance, but for the sake of helping me explain this to coworkers who are also anxiously awaiting results...how'd you get 75%? #iwenttolawschoolsoidonthavetodomath

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Re: July 2015 Illinois Bar Exam

Postby K Rock » Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:34 am

tigershark wrote:
K Rock wrote:
kyle010723 wrote:So passage rate is about 75%? (Between 22 and 31 percentile)


Yes. I like that you took the glass half full approach, whereas I was immediately like "oh 25% of people failed."


Guys excuse my ignorance, but for the sake of helping me explain this to coworkers who are also anxiously awaiting results...how'd you get 75%? #iwenttolawschoolsoidonthavetodomath


260 was the 22nd percentile. So 22% of people scored either 260 or lower.

270 was the 31st percentile. So 31% of people scored either 270 or lower.

We need a 266 to pass. So somewhere between 22% and 31% failed (approx 25%). 100% - 25% = 75% passed.

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Re: July 2015 Illinois Bar Exam

Postby tigershark » Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:37 am

K Rock wrote:
tigershark wrote:
K Rock wrote:
kyle010723 wrote:So passage rate is about 75%? (Between 22 and 31 percentile)


Yes. I like that you took the glass half full approach, whereas I was immediately like "oh 25% of people failed."


Guys excuse my ignorance, but for the sake of helping me explain this to coworkers who are also anxiously awaiting results...how'd you get 75%? #iwenttolawschoolsoidonthavetodomath


260 was the 22nd percentile. So 22% of people scored either 260 or lower.

270 was the 31st percentile. So 31% of people scored either 270 or lower.

We need a 266 to pass. So somewhere between 22% and 31% failed (approx 25%). 100% - 25% = 75% passed.


Thank you! Consequently, panicking.

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Re: July 2015 Illinois Bar Exam

Postby swimmer11 » Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:47 am

Every time I get an email and it is not my bar results, my hatred for whatever company or person that sent that email grows tenfold.

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Re: July 2015 Illinois Bar Exam

Postby sdphill » Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:59 am

K Rock wrote:https://www.ilbaradmissions.org/percentile-equivalent-charts-july-2015

Here is the percentile chart for July 2015. I don't think they posted it yet, I found it through trickery and thievery and such.


I don't understand why they won't just release results today along with this.

Who makes the IBAB rules and procedures? I want to update them.

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Re: July 2015 Illinois Bar Exam

Postby tigershark » Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:00 pm

sdphill wrote:
K Rock wrote:https://www.ilbaradmissions.org/percentile-equivalent-charts-july-2015

Here is the percentile chart for July 2015. I don't think they posted it yet, I found it through trickery and thievery and such.


I don't understand why they won't just release results today along with this.


It sucks but I'll guess that because they specifically said first 2 weeks of October at the conclusion of the exam, they won't allow the results to come any sooner.

Also...Not sure how long it takes to upload/make sure the right scores go to the right people?

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Re: July 2015 Illinois Bar Exam

Postby milesdavisjd » Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:05 pm

tigershark wrote:
yachterotter wrote:
tigershark wrote:
K Rock wrote:
tigershark wrote:
K Rock wrote:
tigershark wrote:Can you give a quick synopsis of what is said/what is was about? Minor panic attack right now. Sorry!


I literally just copied and pasted the text of it, which you also quoted when you responded...



Yeah...I see that now. I didn't read carefully. I thought it was my quoted text. Blah. :oops:



Haha I should have made it more clear. I understand that this is stressful lol


I just emailed my C&F person because I remember seeing the text of what you posted but can't find the email anywhere


It should be posted on your personal page under Messages > Admission Documents.


I'm an idiot. Found it under archived messages. No clue how that happened, but found nonetheless.


I got my C&F letter back in May, so rest assured it has no correlation to results!

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Re: July 2015 Illinois Bar Exam

Postby milesdavisjd » Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:06 pm

tigershark wrote:
sdphill wrote:
K Rock wrote:https://www.ilbaradmissions.org/percentile-equivalent-charts-july-2015

Here is the percentile chart for July 2015. I don't think they posted it yet, I found it through trickery and thievery and such.


I don't understand why they won't just release results today along with this.


It sucks but I'll guess that because they specifically said first 2 weeks of October at the conclusion of the exam, they won't allow the results to come any sooner.

Also...Not sure how long it takes to upload/make sure the right scores go to the right people?


Are we just waiting for an email? Will it be posted on the home page?

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Re: July 2015 Illinois Bar Exam

Postby K Rock » Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:08 pm

milesdavisjd wrote:Are we just waiting for an email? Will it be posted on the home page?


I think it will be an individual message on your user home page, and you will receive an e-mail simply stating that you have a message waiting for you once you log in.

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Re: July 2015 Illinois Bar Exam

Postby milesdavisjd » Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:30 pm

K Rock wrote:
milesdavisjd wrote:Are we just waiting for an email? Will it be posted on the home page?


I think it will be an individual message on your user home page, and you will receive an e-mail simply stating that you have a message waiting for you once you log in.


Thanks! Also - do they actually arrive after 10am or is that just some crazy myth I heard? I'm trying to plan my day/morning drinking accordingly.

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Re: July 2015 Illinois Bar Exam

Postby theinvisiblehand » Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:31 pm

If we're correct with about 75% pass rate, that's not as bad as I thought. If I recall correctly this is the first time the pass score was a 266 (up from 264), so that had to contribute to a lower pass rate, in addition to the nationwide MBE drop.

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Re: July 2015 Illinois Bar Exam

Postby Bexy73 » Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:32 pm

milesdavisjd wrote:
Thanks! Also - do they actually arrive after 10am or is that just some crazy myth I heard? I'm trying to plan my day/morning drinking accordingly.


I've been reading over old posts and they seem to be released around 10-10:30 each October.

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Re: July 2015 Illinois Bar Exam

Postby K Rock » Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:33 pm

milesdavisjd wrote:
K Rock wrote:
milesdavisjd wrote:Are we just waiting for an email? Will it be posted on the home page?


I think it will be an individual message on your user home page, and you will receive an e-mail simply stating that you have a message waiting for you once you log in.


Thanks! Also - do they actually arrive after 10am or is that just some crazy myth I heard? I'm trying to plan my day/morning drinking accordingly.


I think July 2014 results came out around 10am but I don't think the time of day has been consistent year-to-year. So who knows when they will come out, just likely sometime tomorrow.

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Re: July 2015 Illinois Bar Exam

Postby kyle010723 » Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:36 pm

theinvisiblehand wrote:If we're correct with about 75% pass rate, that's not as bad as I thought. If I recall correctly this is the first time the pass score was a 266 (up from 264), so that had to contribute to a lower pass rate, in addition to the nationwide MBE drop.


Honestly I think it will be closer to 70% than to 75%, but we will find out soon enough. Either way that will be a 5 to 10 percent drop. And to think they were planning on increasing it to 272 at one point.

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Re: July 2015 Illinois Bar Exam

Postby nidan14 » Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:42 pm

Created an account and subscribed to this thread just so I can share in the anxiety. That chart only makes the next 24hrs that much worse.

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Re: July 2015 Illinois Bar Exam

Postby swimmer11 » Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:45 pm

I just can not believe they release the chart and not the results. This is like being 5 years old and seeing your Christmas presents under the tree without being able to open them.

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Re: July 2015 Illinois Bar Exam

Postby kyle010723 » Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:46 pm

swimmer11 wrote:I just can not believe they release the chart and not the results. This is like being 5 years old and seeing your Christmas presents under the tree without being able to open them.


Technically the chart is not released yet... they uploaded it is all.

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Re: July 2015 Illinois Bar Exam

Postby johnny2 » Wed Sep 30, 2015 1:39 pm

Are we sure there is not a C&F/bar exam correlation...I received a request/email/letter yesterday from C&F that I have to contact an attorney in 5 days to schedule an interview for C&F...surely they wouldn't send me an interview request 2 days before results if I failed right?

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Re: July 2015 Illinois Bar Exam

Postby sdphill » Wed Sep 30, 2015 1:41 pm

johnny2 wrote:Are we sure there is not a C&F/bar exam correlation...I received a request/email/letter yesterday from C&F that I have to contact an attorney in 5 days to schedule an interview for C&F...surely they wouldn't send me an interview request 2 days before results if I failed right?


I personally think there is a correlation between C&F and passing, but that's my personal opinion. I have definitely googled the question several times :-P Good luck to you tomorrow, though.

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Re: July 2015 Illinois Bar Exam

Postby johnny2 » Wed Sep 30, 2015 1:47 pm

sdphill wrote:
johnny2 wrote:Are we sure there is not a C&F/bar exam correlation...I received a request/email/letter yesterday from C&F that I have to contact an attorney in 5 days to schedule an interview for C&F...surely they wouldn't send me an interview request 2 days before results if I failed right?


I personally think there is a correlation between C&F and passing, but that's my personal opinion. I have definitely googled the question several times :-P Good luck to you tomorrow, though.


I have convinced myself there is a correlation after I got that letter yesterday ha

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Re: July 2015 Illinois Bar Exam

Postby tigershark » Wed Sep 30, 2015 1:53 pm

johnny2 wrote:Are we sure there is not a C&F/bar exam correlation...I received a request/email/letter yesterday from C&F that I have to contact an attorney in 5 days to schedule an interview for C&F...surely they wouldn't send me an interview request 2 days before results if I failed right?


I personally don't think there is because many people received C&F letters before the bar exam (unless we're talking about different letters?)

I'd hope they wouldn't get you to schedule something knowing that you failed. That wouldn't be very nice.

Though I talked to my C&F person on the phone yesterday and she explained updating information in the event that people didn't pass (for example, I asked if I had to update my work information and she said no unless I didn't pass, then I'd have to update the info). So perhaps they're just planning ahead for all scenarios? My C&F person also said the C&F people had not heard from the graders...but I don't know how this could be true.

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Re: July 2015 Illinois Bar Exam

Postby swimmer11 » Wed Sep 30, 2015 2:30 pm

My C and F person stated that he did hear from the graders when I visited him last week.

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Re: July 2015 Illinois Bar Exam

Postby azx860 » Wed Sep 30, 2015 2:45 pm

Is the C&F meeting just for people with question marks on their application? We shouldn't be concerned not to get a meeting if we already received a certification letter, right?




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