NY Bar Feb 2015 Waiting Thread Forum

[encore1101]

Too much anxiety waiting for these results. I decided to call BOLE to get a feel of when the results will be out and the lady on the phone told me they won't be out this week. She said, "Probably next week or the week after." There you go! Relax and have a fun weekend knowing that the wait continues.

This is the best advice to give.

[hopeforthebest15]

Long time lurker decided to long on in. But if the lady is correct and we should expect results next week, is that due to the amount of people who took the exam, because of the amount of people who failed and must of retook this feb? Or could it be the that a bunch of people's exams had to be regraded because they are within the 10 point pass range? Man I don't know, but as a retaker this wait has been excruciating!!!

Well I think there were more retakers than usual but there is also an option now for graduating 3Ls to take the bar exam the February before graduating if they do the Pro Bono Scholars Program. I actually saw a few students from my school that are graduating this upcoming May sitting for the bar.

http://www.nycourts.gov/attorneys/probo ... ndex.shtml

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/12/nyreg ... egion&_r=0

[nyny]

Long time lurker decided to long on in. But if the lady is correct and we should expect results next week, is that due to the amount of people who took the exam, because of the amount of people who failed and must of retook this feb? Or could it be the that a bunch of people's exams had to be regraded because they are within the 10 point pass range? Man I don't know, but as a retaker this wait has been excruciating!!!

Well I think there were more retakers than usual but there is also an option now for graduating 3Ls to take the bar exam the February before graduating if they do the Pro Bono Scholars Program. I actually saw a few students from my school that are graduating this upcoming May sitting for the bar.

http://www.nycourts.gov/attorneys/probo ... ndex.shtml

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/12/nyreg ... egion&_r=0

Me too, I also saw a number of 3Ls from my school as well

I think the sooner the release the better. I'm just ready to get on with my life. I was scoring about 70% on Adaptibar and my Barbri MBE questions, and besides the decent difficulty of both the AM and PM MBE portions I finished each with about 35 minutes to spare.

The NY Essays is keeping me up late, lol!

[Chessiesmile]

I studied for literally 2 weeks the last time around and had passable essays... The MBE is all you really need to worry about

[nyny]

I studied for literally 2 weeks the last time around and had passable essays... The MBE is all you really need to worry about

We will see when the results drop, though I take solace in knowing that I did not bomb any essays nor the MPT. I did miss an issue in two essays, the reset were solid in my eyes.

[jhan11]

I studied for literally 2 weeks the last time around and had passable essays... The MBE is all you really need to worry about

We will see when the results drop, though I take solace in knowing that I did not bomb any essays nor the MPT. I did miss an issue in two essays, the reset were solid in my eyes.

Same solace-finding here with the essays and MPT. Anxious to the point of exhaustion....can't wait for this to be over already.

[Chessiesmile]

Seriously guys, as long as you weren't completely and utterly off-track, you probably scored like a 4 or 5 on any given essay. (And even so, as long as you spit out enough buzzwords, the same applies.) Do not beat yourself up about missing a couple issues. I'm not exaggerating about what I said above.

So long as you hit 140+ on the MBE, you're in a very good spot to pass. 150+ and it's almost a lock.

[Chessiesmile]

Just called to ask if results were planned to be released this week, and the woman I spoke with said that she hadn't heard anything to that effect, and that they're "usually released in early May." Interpret that however you may, but I still think they could come out much sooner, as early as tonight even.

[underthirty]

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[Jimothy]

Seriously guys, as long as you weren't completely and utterly off-track, you probably scored like a 4 or 5 on any given essay. (And even so, as long as you spit out enough buzzwords, the same applies.) Do not beat yourself up about missing a couple issues. I'm not exaggerating about what I said above.

So long as you hit 140+ on the MBE, you're in a very good spot to pass. 150+ and it's almost a lock.

I keep hearing stuff like this, but I'm still crazy nervous. There's a lot that bothers me:

1. First-time February takers in New York pass at a significantly lower rate than July first-timers. Does anyone know why that is? It seems really bizarre to me.

2. The lack of examples/transparency of how essays are graded. I have no idea what exactly constitutes a 4 as compared to a 5 as compared to a 6, etc. I think that I got the rules exactly right on only 2/5 essays. On some sub questions, I guesstimated a rule which sounded right and actually turned out to be somewhat correct, but I think it will be obvious that I didn't know the rule as well as the others. On another, I later realized I wrote the wrong rule entirely. On yet another sub issue, I think I wrote some weird hybrid version of the correct law and something else entirely.

While studying with Kaplan, my essays scores ranged fairly wildly (the first was a 3, the rest were between 4s and 8s...) In that regard, I have no idea what to expect from the actual BOLE graders. In general, I thought the selection of essay topics was odd.

3. The lack of an instant grading from the MBE. While doing the Kaplan 200 question midterm and final, I genuinely had no idea what to expect right before hitting "submit." There were certainly several handfuls of questions where I had to narrow it down to 2, and then guess. I ended up with a 127 on the Kaplan final. They implied that it was a decent score, but I really didn't feel confident that part of it wasn't sheer luck. I wonder how much luck I had on the real deal!

[kiz923]

Seriously guys, as long as you weren't completely and utterly off-track, you probably scored like a 4 or 5 on any given essay. (And even so, as long as you spit out enough buzzwords, the same applies.) Do not beat yourself up about missing a couple issues. I'm not exaggerating about what I said above.

So long as you hit 140+ on the MBE, you're in a very good spot to pass. 150+ and it's almost a lock.

I keep hearing stuff like this, but I'm still crazy nervous. There's a lot that bothers me:

1. First-time February takers in New York pass at a significantly lower rate than July first-timers. Does anyone know why that is? It seems really bizarre to me.

2. The lack of examples/transparency of how essays are graded. I have no idea what exactly constitutes a 4 as compared to a 5 as compared to a 6, etc. I think that I got the rules exactly right on only 2/5 essays. On some sub questions, I guesstimated a rule which sounded right and actually turned out to be somewhat correct, but I think it will be obvious that I didn't know the rule as well as the others. On another, I later realized I wrote the wrong rule entirely. On yet another sub issue, I think I wrote some weird hybrid version of the correct law and something else entirely.

While studying with Kaplan, my essays scores ranged fairly wildly (the first was a 3, the rest were between 4s and 8s...) In that regard, I have no idea what to expect from the actual BOLE graders. In general, I thought the selection of essay topics was odd.

3. The lack of an instant grading from the MBE. While doing the Kaplan 200 question midterm and final, I genuinely had no idea what to expect right before hitting "submit." There were certainly several handfuls of questions where I had to narrow it down to 2, and then guess. I ended up with a 127 on the Kaplan final. They implied that it was a decent score, but I really didn't feel confident that part of it wasn't sheer luck. I wonder how much luck I had on the real deal!

I 100% agree with you, jimothy. As a retaker, I was stunned with the point breakdown of the essay portion. There were essays that I thought I nailed in July that I got 3.5's on and then there was one essay that I distinctly remember not finishing half of that I scored a 6.5 on. So, I really don't think you can simply tell anyone "oh, you'll receive at least a 4 or 5 if you type some legal jargon on the page." It doesn't work that way. But, how it works, I have no clue…With that being said, I know that I haven't slept the past few nights wondering if I passed or not, so maybe it's better just to stay positive haha

[underthirty]

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[cakeordeath]

I agree with Kiz and Jimothy. Most of us here are re-takers. Obviously, we fucked up badly enough on the July essays to not score the 4s or 5s and/or hit the 140+ on the MBE. And I also felt that I had done just that in July and was surprised. The bottom line is that you just don't know.

I also don't believe anything someone at BOLE says about when results will be released. They are sadistic.

And yes...I am ramped up from the stress!!

Another night of wine and hanging out til midnight. @PMW - I think whatever someone does if the results are not what we hope depends on one's resources. I can choose to stay and try again - and I work with a very small bar - so all these attorneys that I work with will know. Or, I can go live rent-free in LA, run away from it all, and find a job there in my former career. My friends and family will hate me, but will I be better able to live with myself? (oh dear....I need to drink more wine cuz I'm still in the philosophical phase! )

[astroNOT]

I really cannot express how worried I am about this. I am a second time taker, got a 148 MBE last go around, and a 654 total. I was so close! This time, I'm pretty sure I performed much, much worse. Of course, it didn't help that I couldn't sleep the night before (seriously, not a wink) and couldn't read the questions on the essay day, and that my MBE in practice was a bit lower than what I was scoring last July. So in other words, I'm freaking out. I have no idea what I'm going to do if/when I fail again.

[JoanSloan]

Another night of wine and hanging out til midnight.

Here's to good company, brother.
chin chin !

[britishgirlinNYC]

I took the exam in July 2014 and got 662...failing by so little really made me so mad.

I got 124 on MBE and average of 5.2 on essays last year. I thought I had done significantly better than that, actually I thought July 2014 was a very reasonable exam so I was genuinely surprised I didn't pass. I felt quite good after that exam.

...Until I got the surprise Oct email and I wanted to throw my laptop out the window. Stayed up all night and moped about for two more weeks after that...pulled myself together and took the Feb 2015 exam. My last attempt...and I feel like Feb was so hard I messed up some of the essays and I'm so worried. Doesn't help that I don't have any US legal education, UK educated.

Good luck to you all! Hopefully tonight is the night.

[jarofsoup]

Does anyone feel like its is beyond the range of comprehension that they passed?

[cakeordeath]

@jarofsoup.....sometimes

[nyny]

I have a feeling the results will drop tomorrow (basically at midnight {in an hour and a half} lol)!!! Truth be told who the hell knows how they grade the thing, if you were scoring decent on your practices, I guess you just have to trust the process and if you believe in the man above, leave it in his hands.

[NYNYNY]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsOApPAXcmU

[PWM1824]

Is that it for the night?

[freon]

I believe that NY has decided that they will make us wait.

[15NY15]

I guess so. I bet they are all having a good laugh at our expense...

[sledge]

I guess no news is better than bad news!!

[nyny]

I can't take this for another week or two