California Bar Exam (February 2014) thread

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Re: California Bar Exam (February 2014) thread

Postby Carryon » Tue Jul 08, 2014 11:19 am

MURPH wrote:Improving by 10 wpm will add 300 words - about a page to each 1 hour essay if you write for 30 minutes. I only spent 20 minutes per night on typing. I really did not spend much time on it and I don't recommend wasting too much energy on it.


How much was your WPM?

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Re: California Bar Exam (February 2014) thread

Postby chass » Wed Jul 09, 2014 11:42 pm

Mine was around 50 WPM.

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Re: California Bar Exam (February 2014) thread

Postby El Pollito » Wed Jul 09, 2014 11:56 pm

MURPH wrote:
El Pollito wrote:So um what do I do to get admitted after I pass moral character?


They should mail you some form. Go to judge and ask him to swear you in, sign and stamp the form. Then mail it to the Cal Bar. Pay them. in a few days you will be listed on their website as a lawyer with a nice new number.

Cool, thanks. Guess I will do this after vacation since my mail is in New York.

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Re: California Bar Exam (February 2014) thread

Postby Carryon » Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:24 pm

chass wrote:Mine was around 50 WPM.


Mine is around 30 WPM. I noticed that grader comments on graded essays at baressays.com indicated that word counts of 700 to 900 words per essay are too short. But then again, some of the scores with the low word count were 65 and above. What is your take on this?

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Re: California Bar Exam (February 2014) thread

Postby DwightSchruteFarms » Thu Jul 10, 2014 4:26 pm

Carryon wrote:
chass wrote:Mine was around 50 WPM.


Mine is around 30 WPM. I noticed that grader comments on graded essays at baressays.com indicated that word counts of 700 to 900 words per essay are too short. But then again, some of the scores with the low word count were 65 and above. What is your take on this?


Sorry to jump in but as someone who used baressays grading service, I just have to. Their service was without a doubt the worst grading service I ever used. 100%. I was unfortunate enough to have to take the CA Bar twice and the first time I used baressays for essay grading. After passing the second time, I was curious about how those comments matched up since now I knew what I did wrong and I was shocked. They graed you based on the issues you hit. Not the analysis (which is a massive deal with CA). Barely the rule statements. It looked as if they copy and pasted each of their comments from one essay to another and these weren't insightful comments by any means. If I had any advice, finish whatever essay submissions you have left with them and then use someone/something else. Seriously.

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Re: California Bar Exam (February 2014) thread

Postby Carryon » Thu Jul 10, 2014 4:54 pm

DwightSchruteFarms wrote:
Carryon wrote:
chass wrote:Mine was around 50 WPM.


Mine is around 30 WPM. I noticed that grader comments on graded essays at baressays.com indicated that word counts of 700 to 900 words per essay are too short. But then again, some of the scores with the low word count were 65 and above. What is your take on this?


Sorry to jump in but as someone who used baressays grading service, I just have to. Their service was without a doubt the worst grading service I ever used. 100%. I was unfortunate enough to have to take the CA Bar twice and the first time I used baressays for essay grading. After passing the second time, I was curious about how those comments matched up since now I knew what I did wrong and I was shocked. They graed you based on the issues you hit. Not the analysis (which is a massive deal with CA). Barely the rule statements. It looked as if they copy and pasted each of their comments from one essay to another and these weren't insightful comments by any means. If I had any advice, finish whatever essay submissions you have left with them and then use someone/something else. Seriously.


Thanks for the info. I have not had anyone graded my practice essays yet. I do have barmax subscription which allows for 2 free graded essays/pts. it does seem that the grades are based on issue spotting, though not sure. What do you think?

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Re: California Bar Exam (February 2014) thread

Postby a male human » Thu Jul 10, 2014 9:41 pm

I feel like getting the issues down is most important. Rule application does have to be clean, but it's probably not where most of the points are. IMO.

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Re: California Bar Exam (February 2014) thread

Postby Carryon » Fri Jul 11, 2014 12:48 am

a male human wrote:I feel like getting the issues down is most important. Rule application does have to be clean, but it's probably not where most of the points are. IMO.

That's what i am seeing too. Getting all the issue is critical.

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Re: California Bar Exam (February 2014) thread

Postby Carryon » Fri Jul 11, 2014 12:54 pm

This is a wild request. I seem to miss hitting the space bar when I am typing on my laptop, since the keys are flushed with the lap top frame. Hence, sometimes, I hit the laptop frame adjacent the space bar key and thus do not hit the space bar. Thus, some of words arenotspaceapart. As you can see this takes valuable extra time away from typing the exam to correct the words. Anybody have a similar problem and what did they do to solve it?

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Re: California Bar Exam (February 2014) thread

Postby fl0w » Fri Jul 11, 2014 2:30 pm

Carryon wrote:This is a wild request. I seem to miss hitting the space bar when I am typing on my laptop, since the keys are flushed with the lap top frame. Hence, sometimes, I hit the laptop frame adjacent the space bar key and thus do not hit the space bar. Thus, some of words arenotspaceapart. As you can see this takes valuable extra time away from typing the exam to correct the words. Anybody have a similar problem and what did they do to solve it?


1) don't forget to look up at the screen every once in a while while you are typing.
2) practice hitting the spacebar. slowdown while you re-adjust your muscle memory, then pick back up on the speed.
3) alternatively, get an external keyboard that does not present you with this problem.

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Re: California Bar Exam (February 2014) thread

Postby Carryon » Fri Jul 11, 2014 3:11 pm

fl0w wrote:
Carryon wrote:This is a wild request. I seem to miss hitting the space bar when I am typing on my laptop, since the keys are flushed with the lap top frame. Hence, sometimes, I hit the laptop frame adjacent the space bar key and thus do not hit the space bar. Thus, some of words arenotspaceapart. As you can see this takes valuable extra time away from typing the exam to correct the words. Anybody have a similar problem and what did they do to solve it?


1) don't forget to look up at the screen every once in a while while you are typing.
2) practice hitting the spacebar. slowdown while you re-adjust your muscle memory, then pick back up on the speed.
3) alternatively, get an external keyboard that does not present you with this problem.


Thanks, I am tempted to get an external keyboard, if it is allowed in the exam room.

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Re: California Bar Exam (February 2014) thread

Postby fl0w » Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:14 pm

Carryon wrote:
fl0w wrote:
Carryon wrote:This is a wild request. I seem to miss hitting the space bar when I am typing on my laptop, since the keys are flushed with the lap top frame. Hence, sometimes, I hit the laptop frame adjacent the space bar key and thus do not hit the space bar. Thus, some of words arenotspaceapart. As you can see this takes valuable extra time away from typing the exam to correct the words. Anybody have a similar problem and what did they do to solve it?


1) don't forget to look up at the screen every once in a while while you are typing.
2) practice hitting the spacebar. slowdown while you re-adjust your muscle memory, then pick back up on the speed.
3) alternatively, get an external keyboard that does not present you with this problem.


Thanks, I am tempted to get an external keyboard, if it is allowed in the exam room.

It is

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Re: California Bar Exam (February 2014) thread

Postby Carryon » Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:21 pm

fl0w wrote:
Carryon wrote:
fl0w wrote:
Carryon wrote:This is a wild request. I seem to miss hitting the space bar when I am typing on my laptop, since the keys are flushed with the lap top frame. Hence, sometimes, I hit the laptop frame adjacent the space bar key and thus do not hit the space bar. Thus, some of words arenotspaceapart. As you can see this takes valuable extra time away from typing the exam to correct the words. Anybody have a similar problem and what did they do to solve it?


1) don't forget to look up at the screen every once in a while while you are typing.
2) practice hitting the spacebar. slowdown while you re-adjust your muscle memory, then pick back up on the speed.
3) alternatively, get an external keyboard that does not present you with this problem.


Thanks, I am tempted to get an external keyboard, if it is allowed in the exam room.

It is

Did you see any exam takers using them? How did they fare?

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Re: California Bar Exam (February 2014) thread

Postby fl0w » Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:37 pm

Carryon wrote:
fl0w wrote:
Carryon wrote:Thanks, I am tempted to get an external keyboard, if it is allowed in the exam room.

It is

Did you see any exam takers using them? How did they fare?


Many people did. How did they fare? Who knows. They were clearly typing, but I would have no insight into how they actually did.

Nobody threw their keyboard across the room if that's what you mean.

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Re: California Bar Exam (February 2014) thread

Postby Carryon » Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:59 pm

fl0w wrote:
Carryon wrote:
fl0w wrote:
Carryon wrote:Thanks, I am tempted to get an external keyboard, if it is allowed in the exam room.

It is

Did you see any exam takers using them? How did they fare?


Many people did. How did they fare? Who knows. They were clearly typing, but I would have no insight into how they actually did.

Nobody threw their keyboard across the room if that's what you mean.

Wow, so a lot of people may have had my problem. They type faster on an external keyboard than the laptop keyboard. I assume that they used a wireless keyboard. Is that correct?

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Re: California Bar Exam (February 2014) thread

Postby fl0w » Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:10 pm

Just use what you like. You're worrying too much about this. Worry about knowing the law and how to write your essays.

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Re: California Bar Exam (February 2014) thread

Postby CourtneyElizabeth » Sun Jul 13, 2014 5:58 pm

Not taking CA bar again. Anyone want to purchase a full set of Kaplan CA bar books? Anyone know anyone else that would be interested in them? PM me or email me CourtneyEFMcNulty@gmail.com.

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Re: California Bar Exam (February 2014) thread

Postby chass » Mon Jul 14, 2014 3:33 pm

Carryon wrote:
chass wrote:Mine was around 50 WPM.


Mine is around 30 WPM. I noticed that grader comments on graded essays at baressays.com indicated that word counts of 700 to 900 words per essay are too short. But then again, some of the scores with the low word count were 65 and above. What is your take on this?


I don't think word count matters so long as you spotted all issues and have the correct rule statements. I followed 2807's advice on fact to rule application and nothing more. I use to be at 25 and used Mavis to help get it up to 50.

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Re: California Bar Exam (February 2014) thread

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Re: California Bar Exam (February 2014) thread

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Re: California Bar Exam (February 2014) thread

Postby CourtneyElizabeth » Mon Sep 08, 2014 3:58 pm

Ugh. UGH UGH UGH I'm doing it again.

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Re: California Bar Exam (February 2014) thread

Postby CourtneyElizabeth » Mon Sep 08, 2014 3:59 pm

WHERES THE LINK TO THE FEB 2015 TORTURE THREAD?!?!?!

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Re: California Bar Exam (February 2014) thread

Postby CourtneyElizabeth » Mon Sep 08, 2014 4:09 pm

Did anyone that passed use a tutor? I'm thinking I need a more on-on-one, intense approach. Self-study and those giant bar courses (KAPLAN, BarBri) don't cut it for me.
Thanks!!

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Re: California Bar Exam (February 2014) thread

Postby fl0w » Thu Sep 11, 2014 2:03 am

CourtneyElizabeth wrote:Did anyone that passed use a tutor? I'm thinking I need a more on-on-one, intense approach. Self-study and those giant bar courses (KAPLAN, BarBri) don't cut it for me.
Thanks!!


i used a tutor. i felt the same way about kaplan/barbri




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