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[Bikeflip]

Sweet mother of God, I am so far behind.

Want the handouts to help you catch back up, brehsef?

[Bustang]

I have taken two evidence classes in law school and am at the average percentage. I have thoroughly disagreed with some of the answer though.

Side note, the guy for secured transactions is absolutely boring as hell

They really shouldn't test 403 at all because prejudicial nature outweighing probative value of a piece of evidence is entirely subjective. Furthermore, I thoroughly believe that Themis MBE questions don't know that 803(1) is a statement made at or near the time of an event.

Completely agree on both accounts. I'm not sure if you've gotten the question about the police investigation & the witness describing the events to the cop, but unless the cop is Flash and the investigation happens seconds, or maybe one minute after the actual accident, ain't no way that shit is coming in under PSI. As far as 403 goes, I think besides a prior criminal act question (reverse 403 etc), an answer that suggests evidence should be excluded under 403 will rarely be correct. Based on the three quizzes i've done, questions containing that answer choice seem to be testing more on relevancy which is an extremely easy test to satisfy.

I've scored really high on all of my evidence quizzes thus far which is nice but kind of concerning at the same time. All but one of them seemed "easy" to me. I did mock trial for three years, took two advocacy courses and work at a litigation firm, however. It worries me because I don't want to count on doing well on Evidence while not studying for it as hard as the other topics. At this point, I think my goal is to score above 70% on all topics besides contracts and property. Contracts is kind of hit or miss whereas property is all but impossible for me besides a few topics. I dont think crim is too bad but I just finished the lectures today, so I haven't taken any practice questions yet.

I had my first "I feel a lot of stress in my gut" days yesterday. Hope everyone is hanging in there.

Edit - For those of you struggling with evidence, think of it as a game. Just memorize the rules and have all the non-hearsay, & hearsay exceptions readily accessible in your brain. You can plug and play with each of them in your head and at least give it a good guess.

[mvp]

Hey all, I'm planning on starting the NY/NJ course tomorrow. I know I'm starting extremely late, and I'm a little nervous about getting everything done in time. Any suggestions on the best way to go about it (e.g. things I could/should skip or skim, things I should make sure to focus on)?

[kalvano]

Sweet mother of God, I am so far behind.

Want the handouts to help you catch back up, brehsef?

No, but thanks. I think I am only about 4 days behind, but it feels like 4 weeks.

[forza]

Hey all, I'm planning on starting the NY/NJ course tomorrow. I know I'm starting extremely late, and I'm a little nervous about getting everything done in time. Any suggestions on the best way to go about it (e.g. things I could/should skip or skim, things I should make sure to focus on)?

LOL wow dude... I guess just hammer all the MBE subjects, and learn New York family law, wills/trusts, corporations and CPLR.

Also, I'm not sure why everybody's hating on my boy Sherman Clark. I think he's pretty good and his round-up questions at the end of each lecture are clutch.

[as stars burn]

Sweet mother of God, I am so far behind.

Want the handouts to help you catch back up, brehsef?

No, but thanks. I think I am only about 4 days behind, but it feels like 4 weeks.

Same here. That's because of all the shit Themis puts on our to-do lists everyday, and it just compounds if I can't finish all the tasks on a given day.

[dsclaw]

Anyone notice that the schedule has changed. I was only supposed to have 3 things for today but now I have 5. In addition, I was supposed to end on the 26th and now its saying I am supposed to finish on the 29th? It seems Themis is adding more tasks that way I do not get to 75% ? Scam?

[locusdelicti]

Hey all, I'm planning on starting the NY/NJ course tomorrow. I know I'm starting extremely late, and I'm a little nervous about getting everything done in time. Any suggestions on the best way to go about it (e.g. things I could/should skip or skim, things I should make sure to focus on)?

Watch the lectures, fill out the handouts and do the practice questions. It's probably too late to read the outlines if you want to get caught up now.

Jersey doesn't have any separate state law - the essays are all on common law MBE crap. You just need to learn NJ civ pro. So that's lucky. If I were you I would try to skim the NY state law outlines before you watch the lectures, just to hammer it home a little, but if you're super crunched for time, the lectures and handouts and practice questions are the bare minimum you should do. My two cents.

Edited to Add: watch the videos at 1.5x or 2x speed. You can do that by hovering the mouse over the video as it plays and hitting Shift, then +, then the right arrow if you're in Chrome, Safari or Firefox. Some of the profs are hard to understand at 2x speed, but 1.5x speed is still pretty fast and can cut 5 - 8 minutes off each lecture, which really adds up.

[as stars burn]

Anyone notice that the schedule has changed. I was only supposed to have 3 things for today but now I have 5. In addition, I was supposed to end on the 26th and now its saying I am supposed to finish on the 29th? It seems Themis is adding more tasks that way I do not get to 75% ? Scam?

That's really weird. I'd contact them and inquire? I'm scheduled to finish on the 27th, but I usually have 5-6 things to do everyday so that's assuming I can stay on track from now until then. I know lots of people that took Themis last summer and this past February for the bar exam, and none of them passed 80% completed. I don't know how far behind they were or whatnot though.

[dsclaw]

Spoiler: PROPERTY MBE QUESTION

Lawnacre was conveyed to two grantees by a deed that, in the jurisdiction in which Lawnacre is situated, created a co-tenancy in equal shares and with the right of survivorship. The jurisdiction has no statute directly applicable to any of the problems posed. One grantee, by deed, conveyed "my undivided one-half interest in Lawnacre" to her friend. That grantee has since died.

In an appropriate action between the friend and the other grantee in which title to Lawnacre is at issue, the other grantee will
A. prevail, because he is the sole owner of Lawnacre.
B. prevail if, but only if, the co-tenancy created in the two grantees was a tenancy by the entirety.
C. not prevail if he had knowledge of the conveyance prior to the grantee's death.
D. not prevail, because the friend and the other grantee own Lawnacre as tenants in common.

Incorrect: Answer choice B is correct. Tenancy by the entirety is a joint tenancy between married persons with a right of survivorship. Because neither party in a tenancy by the entirety can alienate the property without the consent of the other, answer choice B provides the truest statement. Answer choice A is incorrect because even if the two grantees had held the property as a joint tenancy, the second grantee would then own the property with the friend as tenants in common. Answer choice C is incorrect because knowledge of a conveyance is not a requirement in severing a co-tenancy. Answer choice D would be correct if the two grantees had owned Lawnacre as a joint tenancy; however, answer choice B is the better answer.

Can anyone explain to me how this creates a tenancy by the entirety and not a joint tenancy? I do not see any indication that the parties are married.

[as stars burn]

Just out of curiosity, does anyone feel really lonely? I mean, I'm married (non-law), but I'm so used to being around a lot of people most of the time that this is killing me. I also got off Facebook and Instagram a week ago so now I feel really disconnected. I haven't really heard from anyone, but I assume all my friends know I'm stressed right now. I've been studying 10-ish hour days since a couple weeks ago 7 days a week because I fell behind when my husband and I were trying to find a new apartment, so needless to say, I feel like I have no free time now other than going to the gym or going for a run. This is so lame.

[dsclaw]

Anyone notice that the schedule has changed. I was only supposed to have 3 things for today but now I have 5. In addition, I was supposed to end on the 26th and now its saying I am supposed to finish on the 29th? It seems Themis is adding more tasks that way I do not get to 75% ? Scam?

That's really weird. I'd contact them and inquire? I'm scheduled to finish on the 27th, but I usually have 5-6 things to do everyday so that's assuming I can stay on track from now until then. I know lots of people that took Themis last summer and this past February for the bar exam, and none of them passed 80% completed. I don't know how far behind they were or whatnot though.

I am at 61% as of now, but a job I took starts Jul 15 which will seriously impair my ability to study so I am trying to beast through it until then.

[Kretzy]

Spoiler: PROPERTY MBE QUESTION

Lawnacre was conveyed to two grantees by a deed that, in the jurisdiction in which Lawnacre is situated, created a co-tenancy in equal shares and with the right of survivorship. The jurisdiction has no statute directly applicable to any of the problems posed. One grantee, by deed, conveyed "my undivided one-half interest in Lawnacre" to her friend. That grantee has since died.

In an appropriate action between the friend and the other grantee in which title to Lawnacre is at issue, the other grantee will
A. prevail, because he is the sole owner of Lawnacre.
B. prevail if, but only if, the co-tenancy created in the two grantees was a tenancy by the entirety.
C. not prevail if he had knowledge of the conveyance prior to the grantee's death.
D. not prevail, because the friend and the other grantee own Lawnacre as tenants in common.

Incorrect: Answer choice B is correct. Tenancy by the entirety is a joint tenancy between married persons with a right of survivorship. Because neither party in a tenancy by the entirety can alienate the property without the consent of the other, answer choice B provides the truest statement. Answer choice A is incorrect because even if the two grantees had held the property as a joint tenancy, the second grantee would then own the property with the friend as tenants in common. Answer choice C is incorrect because knowledge of a conveyance is not a requirement in severing a co-tenancy. Answer choice D would be correct if the two grantees had owned Lawnacre as a joint tenancy; however, answer choice B is the better answer.

Can anyone explain to me how this creates a tenancy by the entirety and not a joint tenancy? I do not see any indication that the parties are married.

It is isn't necessary a tenancy be entirety. However, that's the only way that the other grantee can prevail. A joint tenant or co-tenant is freely able to alienate their interest in the tenancy, except in a tenancy by entirety (without permission of the other spouse).

If the grantees were married, and in a tenancy by entirety, the other grantee could prevail, because grantee 1 would not have been able to convey their interest to Friend.

[TheBeard]

It makes absolutely PERFECT sense that I be assigned an NJ CivPro essay before I am assigned the outline or the lectures.

[dsclaw]

Spoiler: PROPERTY MBE QUESTION

Lawnacre was conveyed to two grantees by a deed that, in the jurisdiction in which Lawnacre is situated, created a co-tenancy in equal shares and with the right of survivorship. The jurisdiction has no statute directly applicable to any of the problems posed. One grantee, by deed, conveyed "my undivided one-half interest in Lawnacre" to her friend. That grantee has since died.

In an appropriate action between the friend and the other grantee in which title to Lawnacre is at issue, the other grantee will
A. prevail, because he is the sole owner of Lawnacre.
B. prevail if, but only if, the co-tenancy created in the two grantees was a tenancy by the entirety.
C. not prevail if he had knowledge of the conveyance prior to the grantee's death.
D. not prevail, because the friend and the other grantee own Lawnacre as tenants in common.

Incorrect: Answer choice B is correct. Tenancy by the entirety is a joint tenancy between married persons with a right of survivorship. Because neither party in a tenancy by the entirety can alienate the property without the consent of the other, answer choice B provides the truest statement. Answer choice A is incorrect because even if the two grantees had held the property as a joint tenancy, the second grantee would then own the property with the friend as tenants in common. Answer choice C is incorrect because knowledge of a conveyance is not a requirement in severing a co-tenancy. Answer choice D would be correct if the two grantees had owned Lawnacre as a joint tenancy; however, answer choice B is the better answer.

Can anyone explain to me how this creates a tenancy by the entirety and not a joint tenancy? I do not see any indication that the parties are married.

It is isn't necessary a tenancy be entirety. However, that's the only way that the other grantee can prevail. A joint tenant or co-tenant is freely able to alienate their interest in the tenancy, except in a tenancy by entirety (without permission of the other spouse).

If the grantees were married, and in a tenancy by entirety, the other grantee could prevail, because grantee 1 would not have been able to convey their interest to Friend.

However, the option choice D indicates she wont prevail and gives an answer which also would be correct if it was not a tenancy by the entirety. So the key to the question is finding a tenancy by the entirety. I selected D.

[Agoraphobia]

Just out of curiosity, does anyone feel really lonely? I mean, I'm married (non-law), but I'm so used to being around a lot of people most of the time that this is killing me. I also got off Facebook and Instagram a week ago so now I feel really disconnected. I haven't really heard from anyone, but I assume all my friends know I'm stressed right now. I've been studying 10-ish hour days since a couple weeks ago 7 days a week because I fell behind when my husband and I were trying to find a new apartment, so needless to say, I feel like I have no free time now other than going to the gym or going for a run. This is so lame.

I got off Facebook too, and the one thing I am doing this entire month is going to dinner with my sister. Some days I don't even go outside until evening and going to the grocery store is a huge adventure. Agreed. This is a totally isolating experience. And July hasn't even started.

[Kretzy]

Spoiler: PROPERTY MBE QUESTION

Lawnacre was conveyed to two grantees by a deed that, in the jurisdiction in which Lawnacre is situated, created a co-tenancy in equal shares and with the right of survivorship. The jurisdiction has no statute directly applicable to any of the problems posed. One grantee, by deed, conveyed "my undivided one-half interest in Lawnacre" to her friend. That grantee has since died.

In an appropriate action between the friend and the other grantee in which title to Lawnacre is at issue, the other grantee will
A. prevail, because he is the sole owner of Lawnacre.
B. prevail if, but only if, the co-tenancy created in the two grantees was a tenancy by the entirety.
C. not prevail if he had knowledge of the conveyance prior to the grantee's death.
D. not prevail, because the friend and the other grantee own Lawnacre as tenants in common.

Incorrect: Answer choice B is correct. Tenancy by the entirety is a joint tenancy between married persons with a right of survivorship. Because neither party in a tenancy by the entirety can alienate the property without the consent of the other, answer choice B provides the truest statement. Answer choice A is incorrect because even if the two grantees had held the property as a joint tenancy, the second grantee would then own the property with the friend as tenants in common. Answer choice C is incorrect because knowledge of a conveyance is not a requirement in severing a co-tenancy. Answer choice D would be correct if the two grantees had owned Lawnacre as a joint tenancy; however, answer choice B is the better answer.

Can anyone explain to me how this creates a tenancy by the entirety and not a joint tenancy? I do not see any indication that the parties are married.

It is isn't necessary a tenancy be entirety. However, that's the only way that the other grantee can prevail. A joint tenant or co-tenant is freely able to alienate their interest in the tenancy, except in a tenancy by entirety (without permission of the other spouse).

If the grantees were married, and in a tenancy by entirety, the other grantee could prevail, because grantee 1 would not have been able to convey their interest to Friend.

However, the option choice D indicates she wont prevail and gives an answer which also would be correct if it was not a tenancy by the entirety. So the key to the question is finding a tenancy by the entirety. I selected D.

I think that's the reason for the "if but only if" language. D is true if the grantees weren't married. But we don't know whether or not they are, so there are facts that, if true, would allow the other grantee to prevail. So B is a better answer than D, since D says that grantee outright won't prevail when there is a (albeit limited) circumstance in which s/he can.

[JD_done]

Just out of curiosity, does anyone feel really lonely? I mean, I'm married (non-law), but I'm so used to being around a lot of people most of the time that this is killing me. I also got off Facebook and Instagram a week ago so now I feel really disconnected. I haven't really heard from anyone, but I assume all my friends know I'm stressed right now. I've been studying 10-ish hour days since a couple weeks ago 7 days a week because I fell behind when my husband and I were trying to find a new apartment, so needless to say, I feel like I have no free time now other than going to the gym or going for a run. This is so lame.

absolutely! I've been studying at home mostly and started to feel pretty isolated. I am now studying a few days per week with friends at school. Just being in the same room helps even if we are not different subjects and using different bar prep companies. Also went for a quick run this morning and friday and feel like it makes a world of difference for my state of mind. You are not alone- we're all in this together!!

[dsclaw]

Spoiler: PROPERTY MBE QUESTION

Lawnacre was conveyed to two grantees by a deed that, in the jurisdiction in which Lawnacre is situated, created a co-tenancy in equal shares and with the right of survivorship. The jurisdiction has no statute directly applicable to any of the problems posed. One grantee, by deed, conveyed "my undivided one-half interest in Lawnacre" to her friend. That grantee has since died.

In an appropriate action between the friend and the other grantee in which title to Lawnacre is at issue, the other grantee will
A. prevail, because he is the sole owner of Lawnacre.
B. prevail if, but only if, the co-tenancy created in the two grantees was a tenancy by the entirety.
C. not prevail if he had knowledge of the conveyance prior to the grantee's death.
D. not prevail, because the friend and the other grantee own Lawnacre as tenants in common.

Incorrect: Answer choice B is correct. Tenancy by the entirety is a joint tenancy between married persons with a right of survivorship. Because neither party in a tenancy by the entirety can alienate the property without the consent of the other, answer choice B provides the truest statement. Answer choice A is incorrect because even if the two grantees had held the property as a joint tenancy, the second grantee would then own the property with the friend as tenants in common. Answer choice C is incorrect because knowledge of a conveyance is not a requirement in severing a co-tenancy. Answer choice D would be correct if the two grantees had owned Lawnacre as a joint tenancy; however, answer choice B is the better answer.

Can anyone explain to me how this creates a tenancy by the entirety and not a joint tenancy? I do not see any indication that the parties are married.

It is isn't necessary a tenancy be entirety. However, that's the only way that the other grantee can prevail. A joint tenant or co-tenant is freely able to alienate their interest in the tenancy, except in a tenancy by entirety (without permission of the other spouse).

If the grantees were married, and in a tenancy by entirety, the other grantee could prevail, because grantee 1 would not have been able to convey their interest to Friend.

However, the option choice D indicates she wont prevail and gives an answer which also would be correct if it was not a tenancy by the entirety. So the key to the question is finding a tenancy by the entirety. I selected D.

I think that's the reason for the "if but only if" language. D is true if the grantees weren't married. But we don't know whether or not they are, so there are facts that, if true, would allow the other grantee to prevail. So B is a better answer than D, since D says that grantee outright won't prevail when there is a (albeit limited) circumstance in which s/he can.

Thank you for pointing out the, if but only if, language. That does make it a better answer. Wish I had noticed that would have gotten it write. God damn, the property questions take me so long to read that I rush through the shorter ones. I am at 1.9 mins per question.

[Kretzy]

It is isn't necessary a tenancy be entirety. However, that's the only way that the other grantee can prevail. A joint tenant or co-tenant is freely able to alienate their interest in the tenancy, except in a tenancy by entirety (without permission of the other spouse).

If the grantees were married, and in a tenancy by entirety, the other grantee could prevail, because grantee 1 would not have been able to convey their interest to Friend.

However, the option choice D indicates she wont prevail and gives an answer which also would be correct if it was not a tenancy by the entirety. So the key to the question is finding a tenancy by the entirety. I selected D.

I think that's the reason for the "if but only if" language. D is true if the grantees weren't married. But we don't know whether or not they are, so there are facts that, if true, would allow the other grantee to prevail. So B is a better answer than D, since D says that grantee outright won't prevail when there is a (albeit limited) circumstance in which s/he can.

Thank you for pointing out the, if but only if, language. That does make it a better answer. Wish I had noticed that would have gotten it write. God damn, the property questions take me so long to read that I rush through the shorter ones. I am at 1.9 mins per question.

I'm with you. I'm soooo bad at property. Couldn't stand it in law school, actually mind it much less now, but I'm spending almost twice as long per question on property than any of Con/Crim/Torts, and still not hitting 2/3 right.

[TheBeard]

Just out of curiosity, does anyone feel really lonely? I mean, I'm married (non-law), but I'm so used to being around a lot of people most of the time that this is killing me. I also got off Facebook and Instagram a week ago so now I feel really disconnected. I haven't really heard from anyone, but I assume all my friends know I'm stressed right now. I've been studying 10-ish hour days since a couple weeks ago 7 days a week because I fell behind when my husband and I were trying to find a new apartment, so needless to say, I feel like I have no free time now other than going to the gym or going for a run. This is so lame.

If you don't mind me asking, how much of the course have you completed? I started going 7 days a week, 8-10 hours per day about three weeks ago because I wanted to complete as much as possible before July 1st. Frankly, I now realize that it was a terrible idea. Unless you're really behind (and I mean really behind), you need to set aside time for yourself.

[locusdelicti]

Just out of curiosity, does anyone feel really lonely? I mean, I'm married (non-law), but I'm so used to being around a lot of people most of the time that this is killing me. I also got off Facebook and Instagram a week ago so now I feel really disconnected. I haven't really heard from anyone, but I assume all my friends know I'm stressed right now. I've been studying 10-ish hour days since a couple weeks ago 7 days a week because I fell behind when my husband and I were trying to find a new apartment, so needless to say, I feel like I have no free time now other than going to the gym or going for a run. This is so lame.

I do. I'm living in a new state, my husband is always working, and I spend all day at home, studying and talking to my dog.

It's temporary, though. You'll feel better soon.

[as stars burn]

Just out of curiosity, does anyone feel really lonely? I mean, I'm married (non-law), but I'm so used to being around a lot of people most of the time that this is killing me. I also got off Facebook and Instagram a week ago so now I feel really disconnected. I haven't really heard from anyone, but I assume all my friends know I'm stressed right now. I've been studying 10-ish hour days since a couple weeks ago 7 days a week because I fell behind when my husband and I were trying to find a new apartment, so needless to say, I feel like I have no free time now other than going to the gym or going for a run. This is so lame.

If you don't mind me asking, how much of the course have you completed? I started going 7 days a week, 8-10 hours per day about three weeks ago because I wanted to complete as much as possible before July 1st. Frankly, I now realize that it was a terrible idea. Unless you're really behind (and I mean really behind), you need to set aside time for yourself.

I'm a work-a-holic. It's how I was in high school, college and law school. I don't know when to slow down sometimes. I'm not that far behind--probably about 3-4 days, but I am still playing catch-up. I'm not even going to be able to take the second Milestone Exam until Wednesday so I can finish Contracts. I'm at 45% right now. I do give myself some breaks, like lunch with my husband outside or going for a run or playing Fat Prince because I'm obsessed with that game. Earlier this month I was still going out with friends on a couple weekends, but that has since stopped for obvious reasons.

Also, thanks for the other responses, guys! It feels good to know I'm not alone :)

[Agoraphobia]

Anyone else unable to get on the site at all today? I've tried three different browsers, and restarting, with no luck.

Edit - NVM. Fixed...

[smokyroom26]

So there are 9 handout chapters of Federal Civil Procedure (6-14) on the printable handout that don't seem to have corresponding lectures. Anyone else taking Texas know whether this is an intentional omission (or I'm missing something - there's obviously the whole topic of TX Civ Pro, but why would that relieve us of obligation to know federal)? I messaged the Themis bros but they always take a day or two to reply.

Also, put me in the way behind boat. I'm at 29%. EEP!