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Re: Indiana University - Bloomington 1L's taking questions

Postby Mulliganstew » Thu Nov 12, 2009 5:55 pm

I'm looking forward to next semester. I've heard good things about Baude.

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Re: Indiana University - Bloomington 1L's taking questions

Postby Spoonmanners » Sat Nov 14, 2009 12:53 pm

Mulliganstew wrote:I'm looking forward to next semester. I've heard good things about Baude.


What's Baude teach?

And what is everyone doing for property? I'm taking the new guy who won teacher of the year or whatever. He sounds tough but should keep me on task. Pretty much the opposite of Hoffman.

I'm also looking forward to next semester just for the schedule. I don't have to be here before 11 :D

That one less class is killer.

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Postby kings84_wr » Sat Nov 14, 2009 5:52 pm

Spoonmanners wrote:
Mulliganstew wrote:I'm looking forward to next semester. I've heard good things about Baude.


What's Baude teach?

And what is everyone doing for property? I'm taking the new guy who won teacher of the year or whatever. He sounds tough but should keep me on task. Pretty much the opposite of Hoffman.

I'm also looking forward to next semester just for the schedule. I don't have to be here before 11 :D

That one less class is killer.



I put the new guy as well, though I heard Stake is good.

Baude teaches Con law

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Re: Indiana University - Bloomington 1L's taking questions

Postby Bankhead » Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:20 pm

What are you guys doing to prep for Hoffman's final? The class doesn't lend itself very well to outlining, and having only one relevant practice exam = :? :shock: :roll:

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Postby kings84_wr » Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:56 pm

Bankhead wrote:What are you guys doing to prep for Hoffman's final? The class doesn't lend itself very well to outlining, and having only one relevant practice exam = :? :shock: :roll:


for crim law Im guessing?

that class is kind of a mess, He's pretty heavy on statutory interpretation so Ive been really trying to get that down. While there is only the one relevant exam, the policy questions on the old tests are definitely relevant still, and the issue spotters aren't that different. I think mainly the terms are what have radically changed with the new book.

But yeah that is definitely the class Im unsure about.

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Postby Spoonmanners » Sat Nov 14, 2009 9:37 pm

Bankhead wrote:What are you guys doing to prep for Hoffman's final? The class doesn't lend itself very well to outlining, and having only one relevant practice exam = :? :shock: :roll:


I only have him for Crimpro. We don't even have one exam to look at, so consider yourself lucky.

I'm outlining the over 1,000 pages we have covered in class. It's taking awhile. Just outline better than the other people. I dunno about crimlaw, but the way Hoffman teaches means no one is really on top of the reading.

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Re: Indiana University - Bloomington 1L's taking questions

Postby biggamejames » Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:20 pm

Gonna drive to Louisville for Derby?

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Postby Baylan » Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:55 pm

I sat in on a class on Friday, visiting IU. Absolutely loved the campus, and enjoyed Bethel's contracts class.

In case anyone is interested in visiting, IU's FinAid office was really helpful/informative to someone that is green to the whole loan process, and the Dean of Admission Frank Motley was fun to chat with.

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Postby superflush » Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:59 pm

Baylan wrote:I sat in on a class on Friday, visiting IU. Absolutely loved the campus, and enjoyed Bethel's contracts class.

In case anyone is interested in visiting, IU's FinAid office was really helpful/informative to someone that is green to the whole loan process, and the Dean of Admission Frank Motley was fun to chat with.


Cool

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Postby kings84_wr » Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:09 pm

Baylan wrote:I sat in on a class on Friday, visiting IU. Absolutely loved the campus, and enjoyed Bethel's contracts class.

In case anyone is interested in visiting, IU's FinAid office was really helpful/informative to someone that is green to the whole loan process, and the Dean of Admission Frank Motley was fun to chat with.


One of my favorite moments in law school thus far was my Torts professor accidentally cold calling a visitor who happened to be in the seat of an absent student. Both the prof and the visitor were totally confused.

So be warned if you visit IU you may get cold called :)

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Postby PLATONiC » Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:15 pm

How does Kilroy's on Kirkwood affect studying at the Law Library?

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Postby superflush » Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:17 pm

kings84_wr wrote:One of my favorite moments in law school thus far was my Torts professor accidentally cold calling a visitor who happened to be in the seat of an absent student. Both the prof and the visitor were totally confused.

So be warned if you visit IU you may get cold called :)


How do you get called on with no name.
Just getting pointed at?

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Postby Mulliganstew » Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:35 pm

Bankhead wrote:What are you guys doing to prep for Hoffman's final? The class doesn't lend itself very well to outlining, and having only one relevant practice exam = :? :shock: :roll:


Thankfully I have Scott who has done a decent job so far of keeping us very aware of what he expects out of us for the final.

superflush wrote:
How do you get called on with no name.
Just getting pointed at?


Hah. Take Bethel and you'll see. It generally starts with, "Hey you in the hat."

Baylan wrote:I sat in on a class on Friday, visiting IU. Absolutely loved the campus, and enjoyed Bethel's contracts class.

In case anyone is interested in visiting, IU's FinAid office was really helpful/informative to someone that is green to the whole loan process, and the Dean of Admission Frank Motley was fun to chat with.


Oh hey! A member of my practice group was your tour guide. She didn't lead you astray I assume?

kings84_wr wrote:

I put the new guy as well, though I heard Stake is good.

Baude teaches Con law


I put Williams since my PGA insisted she was an amazing professor. Kirshnan was definitely my second choice though.

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Re: Indiana University - Bloomington 1L's taking questions

Postby kings84_wr » Mon Nov 16, 2009 1:06 am

superflush wrote:
kings84_wr wrote:One of my favorite moments in law school thus far was my Torts professor accidentally cold calling a visitor who happened to be in the seat of an absent student. Both the prof and the visitor were totally confused.

So be warned if you visit IU you may get cold called :)


How do you get called on with no name.
Just getting pointed at?


Well he has a seating chart so he knows exactly where to look, and the poor visitor happened to be very unlucky. The names obviously didn't match up, but once the the prof figured out the actual student wasn't there, I think he figured the next best thing was to have the person sitting there do it. The visitor was clearly terrified and lost and the Prof was pretty confused, which led to a hilarious minute.

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Postby Baylan » Mon Nov 16, 2009 3:49 am

kings84_wr wrote:
Baylan wrote:I sat in on a class on Friday, visiting IU. Absolutely loved the campus, and enjoyed Bethel's contracts class.

In case anyone is interested in visiting, IU's FinAid office was really helpful/informative to someone that is green to the whole loan process, and the Dean of Admission Frank Motley was fun to chat with.


One of my favorite moments in law school thus far was my Torts professor accidentally cold calling a visitor who happened to be in the seat of an absent student. Both the prof and the visitor were totally confused.

So be warned if you visit IU you may get cold called :)


I was warned by the person who gave me my tour that I might get cold-called by Bethel. And was also told that if cold-called, I should vehemently hate on Michigan/Notre Dame.

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Re: Indiana University - Bloomington 1L's taking questions

Postby Baylan » Mon Nov 16, 2009 3:56 am

Mulliganstew wrote:
Bankhead wrote:What are you guys doing to prep for Hoffman's final? The class doesn't lend itself very well to outlining, and having only one relevant practice exam = :? :shock: :roll:


Thankfully I have Scott who has done a decent job so far of keeping us very aware of what he expects out of us for the final.

superflush wrote:
How do you get called on with no name.
Just getting pointed at?


Hah. Take Bethel and you'll see. It generally starts with, "Hey you in the hat."

Baylan wrote:I sat in on a class on Friday, visiting IU. Absolutely loved the campus, and enjoyed Bethel's contracts class.

In case anyone is interested in visiting, IU's FinAid office was really helpful/informative to someone that is green to the whole loan process, and the Dean of Admission Frank Motley was fun to chat with.


Oh hey! A member of my practice group was your tour guide. She didn't lead you astray I assume?

kings84_wr wrote:

I put the new guy as well, though I heard Stake is good.

Baude teaches Con law


I put Williams since my PGA insisted she was an amazing professor. Kirshnan was definitely my second choice though.


Nope, she was great - candid and honest with all my questions, at least, as far as I could tell. Really loved the feel of IU. It has probably moved up to my current "if money were no object" #1 choice based on my tour on Friday. Really loved the feel of campus and the school in general, plus I know a few people in the 1L class from my high school.

Hopefully I'll be admitted and I'll have a difficult choice to make in a few months, between IU and others.

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Re: Indiana University - Bloomington 1L's taking questions

Postby Spoonmanners » Mon Nov 16, 2009 10:47 am

PLATONiC wrote:How does Kilroy's on Kirkwood affect studying at the Law Library?


It sure as hell doesn't help on Two Dollar Tuesday's or Three Dollar Thursdays. But it's not bad most of the time, despite ridiculous drink specials.

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Re: Indiana University - Bloomington 1L's taking questions

Postby Mulliganstew » Mon Nov 16, 2009 11:13 am

Spoonmanners wrote:
PLATONiC wrote:How does Kilroy's on Kirkwood affect studying at the Law Library?


It sure as hell doesn't help on Two Dollar Tuesday's or Three Dollar Thursdays. But it's not bad most of the time, despite ridiculous drink specials.


I find avoiding looking at it helps a lot. (That and studying at home.)

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Re: Indiana University - Bloomington 1L's taking questions

Postby Unjust Enrichment » Thu Nov 19, 2009 12:41 pm

It's driving me crazy trying to figure out who some of these posters are. I'm also in Bethel's and Hoffmann's classes, so I'm definitely in class with some of you.

With that said, I'm happy to throw my hat in the ring and answer some questions too if possible incoming students have them.

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Postby Baylan » Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:56 pm

I actually had a CoL question for you guys - what're your typical expenses? From what I could tell, the CoL number was pretty high for Bloomington (something like $17,500) when I was doing estimates. Do you find that is a lot?

I guess what I'm asking is, do you really feel like you need to pull the full amount for the loan, or do most people fall under that amount? The way I figure, given how much apartments cost at my undergrad, which is in a more major city than Bloomington, I could probably find a very nice place to rent for $500-$600 a month, with most utilities taken care of, food at about $100-125 a week, and keep my costs significantly below that. Is that your experience?

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Postby danquayle » Thu Nov 19, 2009 2:32 pm

Baylan wrote:I actually had a CoL question for you guys - what're your typical expenses? From what I could tell, the CoL number was pretty high for Bloomington (something like $17,500) when I was doing estimates. Do you find that is a lot?

I guess what I'm asking is, do you really feel like you need to pull the full amount for the loan, or do most people fall under that amount? The way I figure, given how much apartments cost at my undergrad, which is in a more major city than Bloomington, I could probably find a very nice place to rent for $500-$600 a month, with most utilities taken care of, food at about $100-125 a week, and keep my costs significantly below that. Is that your experience?


Definitely. Bloomington is very, very cheap. I paid $250 my first year and still was only paying $285 by my last year. Granted I shared my apartment, it wasn't particularly nice and my room was technically an office... but was safe, a 10 minute walk to virtually everything (including Maurer) and I had HBO... I'll take it. Bloomington is a very nice place to live all around and very lively since the students make up such a massive proportion of the city population. The only real downside is its kind of isolated. Even then you're an hour from Indy, 2 hours from Louisville and about 4 hours from Chicago. Not bad.

And the drinks at bars are PAINFULLY CHEAP.
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Postby Mulliganstew » Thu Nov 19, 2009 2:40 pm

Unjust Enrichment wrote:It's driving me crazy trying to figure out who some of these posters are. I'm also in Bethel's and Hoffmann's classes, so I'm definitely in class with some of you.

With that said, I'm happy to throw my hat in the ring and answer some questions too if possible incoming students have them.


If it helps, I am one of the few people that actually goes to Bethel's class.

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Re: Indiana University - Bloomington 1L's taking questions

Postby Unjust Enrichment » Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:16 pm

Mulliganstew wrote:
Unjust Enrichment wrote:It's driving me crazy trying to figure out who some of these posters are. I'm also in Bethel's and Hoffmann's classes, so I'm definitely in class with some of you.

With that said, I'm happy to throw my hat in the ring and answer some questions too if possible incoming students have them.


If it helps, I am one of the few people that actually goes to Bethel's class.


Bethel still holds classes? I thought they just get canceled on the eve of every session.

No, really, I'm there too when it's on. Strangely, I'm a lot more comfortable about that final than Geyh's, even though Geyh is a much more straightforward prof to listen to.

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Re: Indiana University - Bloomington 1L's taking questions

Postby Mulliganstew » Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:22 am

To those already in finals, hope you did well. To those of us who have Bethel's final at 6... here's to not screwing up.

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Re: Indiana University - Bloomington 1L's taking questions

Postby kings84_wr » Tue Dec 08, 2009 2:36 pm

Mulliganstew wrote:To those already in finals, hope you did well. To those of us who have Bethel's final at 6... here's to not screwing up.


Good luck man. Im glad im done with it. Its nice to have one out of the way. Now civ pro.




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