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Re: Indiana University - Bloomington 1L's taking questions

Postby Spoonmanners » Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:54 pm

Kobe_Teeth wrote:Is it feasible for me to pack up every (or at least most) Friday afternoons to see my gf? Or will being away from the law library seriously hinder me?

PS I live in Chicago.


I suppose if you would rather see your girlfriend instead of the library... well, that is simply up to you.

Seriously hinder? Absolutely not. If you get some time to study over the weekend, you should be fairly competitive. Chicago is only 4-5 hours away, and I know a number of the students have reasons to visit Chicago on a regular basis.

Also, Friday classes seem to get out reasonably early. I think it would be a great problem to have. You will have times you need lots of the weekend to study, but you should have ample opportunities to make your way back over the semester.

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Re: Indiana University - Bloomington 1L's taking questions

Postby ATOIsp07 » Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:08 pm

where the brothas/sistas at? indiana seems to be lacking in shades....

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Re: Indiana University - Bloomington 1L's taking questions

Postby Spoonmanners » Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:18 pm

ATOIsp07 wrote:where the brothas/sistas at? indiana seems to be lacking in shades....


Good question.

Edit: OK, to be fair, I know IU tends to give out big scholarships to URM's. IU just does not seem to be as big of a destination as law schools in major cities for URMs. I think Indiana is just not a big target school of many URM's.

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Re: Indiana University - Bloomington 1L's taking questions

Postby Unjust Enrichment » Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:58 pm

Spoonmanners wrote:
ATOIsp07 wrote:where the brothas/sistas at? indiana seems to be lacking in shades....


Good question.

Edit: OK, to be fair, I know IU tends to give out big scholarships to URM's. IU just does not seem to be as big of a destination as law schools in major cities for URMs. I think Indiana is just not a big target school of many URM's.


Agreed. I don't think it's due to a lack of effort on the school's part.

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Re: Indiana University - Bloomington 1L's taking questions

Postby kings84_wr » Sun Jan 17, 2010 9:43 am

Kobe_Teeth wrote:Is it feasible for me to pack up every (or at least most) Friday afternoons to see my gf? Or will being away from the law library seriously hinder me?

PS I live in Chicago.

I hardly ever studied in the library, I pretty much always stayed home to study on the weekend. Now that obviously not the same as driving to chicago, but other then the time driving I really don't think you would miss out on anything academically.

the guy Xeoh who used to post here last year, commuted everyday to UCLA from long beach, which during traffic can be an hour and half each way, and he did that every day and still was #1 in his class.

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Re: Indiana University - Bloomington 1L's taking questions

Postby kings84_wr » Sun Jan 17, 2010 9:44 am

Unjust Enrichment wrote:This wait wouldn't be as big of a deal after spring semester, but with people needing to secure summer employment right now, there really should be more urgency on the part of the school to get our grades back to us. This type of thing can have a domino effect toward future job searches, albeit maybe a small one.


I think it further annoys me that its not that the profs haven't graded exams, its the recorder who is taking so long.

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Postby kings84_wr » Sun Jan 17, 2010 9:45 am

Mulliganstew wrote:Goodman told us that she turned in our grades a while back and the recorder is having trouble because the school system doesn't know what to do with the high pass/pass/low pass/fail system. We're supposed to get emails. All I know is I am so glad that the brief is more focused on persuasive writing. I sucked hard at the rule explanation part of the memo. I'm seriously considering buying some books of my own.


Did she ever explain what the grade on the memo actually meant? just having a number on it with nothing to gage it by is so stupid.

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Re: Indiana University - Bloomington 1L's taking questions

Postby Mulliganstew » Sun Jan 17, 2010 1:29 pm

kings84_wr wrote:
Mulliganstew wrote:Goodman told us that she turned in our grades a while back and the recorder is having trouble because the school system doesn't know what to do with the high pass/pass/low pass/fail system. We're supposed to get emails. All I know is I am so glad that the brief is more focused on persuasive writing. I sucked hard at the rule explanation part of the memo. I'm seriously considering buying some books of my own.


Did she ever explain what the grade on the memo actually meant? just having a number on it with nothing to gage it by is so stupid.


Nope. She pretty much told our class what she told yours. Some of us were low pass but she tried not to overdo it and so on.

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Re: Indiana University - Bloomington 1L's taking questions

Postby Spoonmanners » Sun Jan 17, 2010 4:58 pm

Is anyone sending applications to law firms that have deferred a bunch of 2009 grads?

For instance, if it looks very unlikely you would be extended a job, considering their backlog of students trying to work that they have already given offers, would you still try and work (probably for free) at that firm, or would you rather try something with more potential or study abroad?

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Re: Indiana University - Bloomington 1L's taking questions

Postby Bankhead » Sun Jan 17, 2010 5:01 pm

Spoonmanners wrote:Is anyone sending applications to law firms that have deferred a bunch of 2009 grads?

For instance, if it looks very unlikely you would be extended a job, considering their backlog of students trying to work that they have already given offers, would you still try and work (probably for free) at that firm, or would you rather try something with more potential or study abroad?


Any legal job works fine for this summer. Only 4% of IL jobs result in permament employment, so I'm not sure that should be your goal this summer.

Not sure how study abroad would look, though I'd love to do it instead of continuing to try (unsuccessfully) find legal work.

I also feel like we're behind the ball because our recorder's office is so slow in giving us back grades. I think this wait is completely unacceptable.

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Re: Indiana University - Bloomington 1L's taking questions

Postby Spoonmanners » Sun Jan 17, 2010 5:07 pm

Bankhead wrote:
Spoonmanners wrote:Is anyone sending applications to law firms that have deferred a bunch of 2009 grads?

For instance, if it looks very unlikely you would be extended a job, considering their backlog of students trying to work that they have already given offers, would you still try and work (probably for free) at that firm, or would you rather try something with more potential or study abroad?


Any legal job works fine for this summer. Not sure how study abroad would look, though I'd love to do it instead of continuing to try (unsuccessfully) find legal work.

I also feel like we're behind the ball because our recorder's office is so slow in giving us back grades. I think this wait is completely unacceptable.


Seems it would be easier and a hell of a better time to going to Florence for a month.

And yes, that is also one of the issues is that we are still waiting on grades. Not only is this wait so frustrating my head might explode, but it is a major disadvantage. It would be nice if my application wasn't the 500th application they had received.

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Re: Indiana University - Bloomington 1L's taking questions

Postby Bankhead » Sun Jan 17, 2010 6:03 pm

I'd love to go to Florence for a month, but that still leaves 3 months of the summer where I'd have to find some type of legal employment.

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Re: Indiana University - Bloomington 1L's taking questions

Postby Unjust Enrichment » Sun Jan 17, 2010 6:38 pm

Dean Keller in OCPD seems to be pretty negative toward studying abroad with regards to how it will affect your 2L prospects, especially if studying is all you do and you don't get any kind of real-world legal experience.

If you're considering only doing the classroom thing this summer, I would recommend at least talking to him and letting him try to scare you out of it before committing to it. Splitting might not be too bad. No doubt that the study abroad thing would be cool, of course...but it might not be the best choice.

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Re: Indiana University - Bloomington 1L's taking questions

Postby kings84_wr » Sun Jan 17, 2010 6:44 pm

Ive really just been focusing on judicial internships and externships, I sorta figured firms would be almost impossible.

So far most have still asked for grades and writing samples, but even some of the judges are full already.

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Re: Indiana University - Bloomington 1L's taking questions

Postby Kobe_Teeth » Sun Jan 17, 2010 6:52 pm

thanks for the advice...always appreciated!

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Re: Indiana University - Bloomington 1L's taking questions

Postby Mulliganstew » Sun Jan 17, 2010 7:05 pm

Spoonmanners wrote:
Bankhead wrote:
Spoonmanners wrote:Is anyone sending applications to law firms that have deferred a bunch of 2009 grads?

For instance, if it looks very unlikely you would be extended a job, considering their backlog of students trying to work that they have already given offers, would you still try and work (probably for free) at that firm, or would you rather try something with more potential or study abroad?


Any legal job works fine for this summer. Not sure how study abroad would look, though I'd love to do it instead of continuing to try (unsuccessfully) find legal work.

I also feel like we're behind the ball because our recorder's office is so slow in giving us back grades. I think this wait is completely unacceptable.


Seems it would be easier and a hell of a better time to going to Florence for a month.

And yes, that is also one of the issues is that we are still waiting on grades. Not only is this wait so frustrating my head might explode, but it is a major disadvantage. It would be nice if my application wasn't the 500th application they had received.


I am so going to Florence. It's easily the best choice of the programs since it's at the beginning of the summer. I figure it can only help if I have some soft IP classes in before working a job over the summer.

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Re: Indiana University - Bloomington 1L's taking questions

Postby Spoonmanners » Sun Jan 17, 2010 7:11 pm

Unjust Enrichment wrote:Dean Keller in OCPD seems to be pretty negative toward studying abroad with regards to how it will affect your 2L prospects, especially if studying is all you do and you don't get any kind of real-world legal experience.

If you're considering only doing the classroom thing this summer, I would recommend at least talking to him and letting him try to scare you out of it before committing to it. Splitting might not be too bad. No doubt that the study abroad thing would be cool, of course...but it might not be the best choice.


I forget who I talked to, but it was clear they didn't give it a ringing endorsement. Doing both would be amazing. It might be hard to plan out ahead of time if you don't know how long or when a summer internship would run.

I guess we really do have a huge amount of time over summer.

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Re: Indiana University - Bloomington 1L's taking questions

Postby Veritas » Sun Jan 17, 2010 8:14 pm

anyone thinking about clerking? How does IU fare in that regard?

Is it reasonable to consider that clerking could lead to greater portability, in the more immediate future?

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Re: Indiana University - Bloomington 1L's taking questions

Postby kings84_wr » Sun Jan 17, 2010 9:07 pm

Veritas wrote:anyone thinking about clerking? How does IU fare in that regard?

Is it reasonable to consider that clerking could lead to greater portability, in the more immediate future?


I havn't checked the stats since last summer but i think i recall IU placing about average in comparison to other similar schools in the midwest.

From what I understand you really need to be top 5% to guarantee a clerkship, though I have noticed a lot of people have no real interest in clerking.

Im not sure how it would affect portability, its really just hard to judge the economy right now, but it certainly has to help at least some.

I think there are some good clerking blogs that probably have a much more info out there.

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Re: Indiana University - Bloomington 1L's taking questions

Postby danquayle » Mon Jan 18, 2010 4:05 am

Kobe_Teeth wrote:Is it feasible for me to pack up every (or at least most) Friday afternoons to see my gf? Or will being away from the law library seriously hinder me?

PS I live in Chicago.


I went back home pretty much every weekend first year to visit my girlfriend in Detroit, and Detroit is a good 2 hours further away than Chicago. So... yes, its feasible.

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Re: Indiana University - Bloomington 1L's taking questions

Postby BiteyTLS » Mon Jan 18, 2010 6:25 am

Anyone play golf? How is the golf scene in bloomington?

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Re: Indiana University - Bloomington 1L's taking questions

Postby Spoonmanners » Mon Jan 18, 2010 11:09 am

BiteyTLS wrote:Anyone play golf? How is the golf scene in bloomington?


Loads of people play golf. I'm more of a putt-putt person, but there are dozens of gold courses around. IU even has their own big driving range/other large patches of grass on which people hit golf balls. The golf scene certainly seems good.

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Re: Indiana University - Bloomington 1L's taking questions

Postby lhg587 » Mon Jan 18, 2010 4:48 pm

as someone who is seriously considering IUB and is coming from out of state (CA), could someone give me an idea of some pros and cons about attending IUB?

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Re: Indiana University - Bloomington 1L's taking questions

Postby Veritas » Mon Jan 18, 2010 4:52 pm

lhg587 wrote:as someone who is seriously considering IUB and is coming from out of state (CA), could someone give me an idea of some pros and cons about attending IUB?

I'm thinking about come from CA, too.

What else are you deciding between?

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Re: Indiana University - Bloomington 1L's taking questions

Postby kings84_wr » Mon Jan 18, 2010 5:24 pm

lhg587 wrote:as someone who is seriously considering IUB and is coming from out of state (CA), could someone give me an idea of some pros and cons about attending IUB?


As a Life long CA resident I can come back and post my own experience in a day or so, Im working on my writing sample that I need to get done by tomorrow, so im a bit time strapped now.




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