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Re: Indiana University - Bloomington 1L's taking questions

Postby Spoonmanners » Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:16 am

Tortzilla was made by at least one student for Gjerdigans class. It has been passed down for years.

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Re: Indiana University - Bloomington 1L's taking questions

Postby danquayle » Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:23 am

Tortzilla is how I learned Torts. Gjerdy was easily my least favorite 1L professor.

Commercial outlines in general work. They always tell you not to use them... thats all I ever did was study those. (Though prepared outlines of other students are better).

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Re: Indiana University - Bloomington 1L's taking questions

Postby Bankhead » Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:59 am

I thought TORTZILLA was created by Don G himself, likely the product of a botched wills and trust/men's fashion fusion research experiment.

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Re: Indiana University - Bloomington 1L's taking questions

Postby Spoonmanners » Thu Jul 01, 2010 11:19 am

This is all part of the mystery surrounding tortzilla. Not sure if anyone knows it's true origins.

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Re: Indiana University - Bloomington 1L's taking questions

Postby SportsFanatic » Thu Jul 01, 2010 4:52 pm

How do us 1L's get our hands on it? I would like to take a looky.

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Re: Indiana University - Bloomington 1L's taking questions

Postby agentcom » Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:00 pm

Ask and you shall receive. But seriously, don't be looking at stuff like that yet. Wait until you are actually taking the course. There is no benefit to pre-studying before law school. It will be widely circulated by the time you get halfway through the semester. Everyone who took dirty Gjerdi's class will have it, including PGAs.
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Use it. That shit is still the best outline I have ever seen put together. If anything, you will find out how an outline should look, and you will never reach that level.



Not sure about this analysis. I would say it's a study guide. It's not an outline, it's a detailed summary of the course. You won't have time to really look at it during his final (if he even goes back to open book this year). It is a great thing to study from, but the outline that you should memorize/bring into the test should be significantly shorter.

Edit for those that haven't seen it: Tortzilla is something like 100 pages long. I don't think outlines should reach 50 pages unless you have a great internal referencing system. There are even some that say outlines shouldn't be 20 pages long.

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Re: Indiana University - Bloomington 1L's taking questions

Postby OneShotFinch128 » Thu Jul 01, 2010 6:41 pm

I hope that a One L might be able to answer this question.... I got an e- mail from a Ms. Clark asking if I'm interested in attending Fall 2010 ( I'm currently on the wait list). I replied that, of course, I am still interested and she replied that someone from the Dean of Students would get in contact with me to set up an interview. Do you know any one who was in this position last year and what the outcome was?? I haven't seen anyone on TSL that received this e-mail and was wondering if anyone had any insight and/or advise?????Thanks :D

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Re: Indiana University - Bloomington 1L's taking questions

Postby narkizopoint » Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:41 pm

Spoonmanners wrote:Name is pronounced Jur-di-gan. Or maybe Jur-di-gin.

The first brief is totally unnecessary. He likened them to being written by drunken grizzlies


WHAT?! He didn't write that just for us, just re-issued his things you should know essay? Here I thought we were special, haha.

Didn't mention it earlier but congrats Kings on UCLA, went there myself for undergrad. If you have any super general questions about the area or campus I'd be glad to try to answer them (Parking is the absolute worst thing about UCLA and they have some of the highest parking ticket fines I have ever seen! And meters that are (were when I was going) 0.25 for 8 minutes. It might have gone up...get a bus pass.

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Re: Indiana University - Bloomington 1L's taking questions

Postby Bankhead » Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:12 pm

OneShotFinch128 wrote:I hope that a One L might be able to answer this question.... I got an e- mail from a Ms. Clark asking if I'm interested in attending Fall 2010 ( I'm currently on the wait list). I replied that, of course, I am still interested and she replied that someone from the Dean of Students would get in contact with me to set up an interview. Do you know any one who was in this position last year and what the outcome was?? I haven't seen anyone on TSL that received this e-mail and was wondering if anyone had any insight and/or advise?????Thanks :D


This was how I gained admission last year. A few days later they sent me an e-mail accepting me.

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Re: Indiana University - Bloomington 1L's taking questions

Postby OneShotFinch128 » Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:25 pm

Bankhead wrote:
OneShotFinch128 wrote:I hope that a One L might be able to answer this question.... I got an e- mail from a Ms. Clark asking if I'm interested in attending Fall 2010 ( I'm currently on the wait list). I replied that, of course, I am still interested and she replied that someone from the Dean of Students would get in contact with me to set up an interview. Do you know any one who was in this position last year and what the outcome was?? I haven't seen anyone on TSL that received this e-mail and was wondering if anyone had any insight and/or advise?????Thanks :D


This was how I gained admission last year. A few days later they sent me an e-mail accepting me.


Thanks for the insight, it would be nice if this works out for me as well!!!!!did you actually interview??? Was it a long interview if you did have one or something kind of informal?

I'm kind of nervous now....

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Re: Indiana University - Bloomington 1L's taking questions

Postby Bankhead » Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:39 pm

OneShotFinch128 wrote:
Bankhead wrote:
OneShotFinch128 wrote:I hope that a One L might be able to answer this question.... I got an e- mail from a Ms. Clark asking if I'm interested in attending Fall 2010 ( I'm currently on the wait list). I replied that, of course, I am still interested and she replied that someone from the Dean of Students would get in contact with me to set up an interview. Do you know any one who was in this position last year and what the outcome was?? I haven't seen anyone on TSL that received this e-mail and was wondering if anyone had any insight and/or advise?????Thanks :D


This was how I gained admission last year. A few days later they sent me an e-mail accepting me.


Thanks for the insight, it would be nice if this works out for me as well!!!!!did you actually interview??? Was it a long interview if you did have one or something kind of informal?

I'm kind of nervous now....


Hmm... an interview is not something that they asked me to do. They just called me up and asked me if I was still interested. I said that I was and they accepted me a few days later via email.

It was right around this time last year too.

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Re: Indiana University - Bloomington 1L's taking questions

Postby OneShotFinch128 » Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:48 pm

Bankhead wrote:
OneShotFinch128 wrote:
Bankhead wrote:
OneShotFinch128 wrote:I hope that a One L might be able to answer this question.... I got an e- mail from a Ms. Clark asking if I'm interested in attending Fall 2010 ( I'm currently on the wait list). I replied that, of course, I am still interested and she replied that someone from the Dean of Students would get in contact with me to set up an interview. Do you know any one who was in this position last year and what the outcome was?? I haven't seen anyone on TSL that received this e-mail and was wondering if anyone had any insight and/or advise?????Thanks :D


This was how I gained admission last year. A few days later they sent me an e-mail accepting me.


Thanks for the insight, it would be nice if this works out for me as well!!!!!did you actually interview??? Was it a long interview if you did have one or something kind of informal?

I'm kind of nervous now....


Hmm... an interview is not something that they asked me to do. They just called me up and asked me if I was still interested. I said that I was and they accepted me a few days later via email.

It was right around this time last year too.


Yea and I don't know of any one that this happen to last year and i cant find any 0L's that are wait listed that received and e-mails like that.....so i guess ill keep you posted....i have some questions but i would rather find out if I got in before i start jumping the gun

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Re: Indiana University - Bloomington 1L's taking questions

Postby heraper1003 » Fri Jul 02, 2010 2:32 am

I noticed that during the 2009-2010 cycle that just about everyone that applied to Indiana University - Bloomington's Law School got a full scholarship if they had at least a 164 LSAT and a 3.8 GPA. Is this a trend that will continue for the 2010-2011 cycle? I am basing this statement off of the graph on the website of http://www.lawschoolnumbers.com.

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Re: Indiana University - Bloomington 1L's taking questions

Postby Spoonmanners » Fri Jul 02, 2010 7:35 am

agentcom wrote:
Not sure about this analysis. I would say it's a study guide. It's not an outline, it's a detailed summary of the course. You won't have time to really look at it during his final (if he even goes back to open book this year). It is a great thing to study from, but the outline that you should memorize/bring into the test should be significantly shorter.

Edit for those that haven't seen it: Tortzilla is something like 100 pages long. I don't think outlines should reach 50 pages unless you have a great internal referencing system. There are even some that say outlines shouldn't be 20 pages long.


You are referring to Son of Tortzilla, which is just Tortzilla with 75 useless pages added on to it. The first 30 pages is the original Tortzilla, which is the only useful part.

As for the question about the interview, they don't waste their time interviewing someone if they wouldn't accept them. You are likely right on the line, and if you manage to not drool on yourself or deny the holocaust you should get an offer.

As far as scholarships, I have heard from a few on here and other places that that seems to be pretty close. They really like the high GPA people, and 164 seems to be a type of bottom line on GPA. I would expect significant scholarships if one is in or above that range.

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Re: Indiana University - Bloomington 1L's taking questions

Postby Bankhead » Fri Jul 02, 2010 9:28 am

Yeah, I think your chances are very good if you interview decently well. Just don't act like, umm... Tortzilla, or something... :lol:

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Re: Indiana University - Bloomington 1L's taking questions

Postby ChewbaccaDefense » Fri Jul 02, 2010 11:17 am

Rising 2Ls: What recommendations do you guys have for folks moving in next month and getting set up for their first year in Bloomington? If you could revisit your first week or two in town, is there anything you didn't do that you would've done, or vice versa?

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Re: Indiana University - Bloomington 1L's taking questions

Postby Bankhead » Fri Jul 02, 2010 1:14 pm

Go out and socialize more early on.

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Re: Indiana University - Bloomington 1L's taking questions

Postby downstream » Fri Jul 02, 2010 1:32 pm

Need housing advice- someone please recommend someplace nice within reasonable walking distance of the law school. I don't mind paying over 1000, just want something nice- none of the subdivision stuff that requires a drive.

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Re: Indiana University - Bloomington 1L's taking questions

Postby heraper1003 » Fri Jul 02, 2010 3:14 pm

My university that I am attending to obtain my bachelors degree does not grade on a +/- scale but instead is on a 10-point scale as indicated by the following 100-90 = A, 89-80 = B, 79-70 = C, 69-60 = D, and 59 and below is F. How will such a grading scale compute when it is presented to be converted into my LSDAS. My gpa by the way is a 3.94. Any comments would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Indiana University - Bloomington 1L's taking questions

Postby narkizopoint » Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:14 pm

two days into it (summer start torts) cant imagine doing this cold with 5 classes. Is that feeling you missed your exit and are now driving the wrong way from your destination normal as your plowing through the case book pretty much on your own? hehe.

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Re: Indiana University - Bloomington 1L's taking questions

Postby fenderjsm88 » Thu Jul 08, 2010 1:16 pm

Any update on how many and which firms will be at OCI this coming year? Or can I view this information on my own now that I have an IU login?

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Re: Indiana University - Bloomington 1L's taking questions

Postby kings84_wr » Thu Jul 08, 2010 10:16 pm

For firms, if they give you a symplicity account you can check it out, Im not sure if they do or not. There are a few changes, but I don't think anything too drastic.

Its been a bit enlightening getting to see other schools OCI firms in comparison.

and as for the 5 classes in the fall, its kind of hell haha. I was very very busy first semester, it was a pretty tough work load.

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Re: Indiana University - Bloomington 1L's taking questions

Postby fenderjsm88 » Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:08 pm

kings84_wr wrote:For firms, if they give you a symplicity account you can check it out, Im not sure if they do or not. There are a few changes, but I don't think anything too drastic.

Its been a bit enlightening getting to see other schools OCI firms in comparison.

and as for the 5 classes in the fall, its kind of hell haha. I was very very busy first semester, it was a pretty tough work load.


Okay, thanks, I'll check it out.

Apparently you did good as a 1L though since you're transferring to UCLA. Any tips?? haha. I just finished Getting to Maybe. Hopefully it helps come exam time.

Also, why do you say it's been enlightening to see other school's OCI rosters? Are most (peer) schools doing worse or better than us? I know Notre Dame only has about 30 firms as well.

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Re: Indiana University - Bloomington 1L's taking questions

Postby kings84_wr » Fri Jul 09, 2010 3:57 am

I believe Illinois and Wisconsin are about the same too, Midwest State schools are getting hit the hardest. CHicago biglaw just isn't taking anyone outside of NU and Chi.

Now I realize UCLA isn't a peer school, but there are 180 firms at OCI this year.

and as far as the advice goes, I think we can get together a collaboration with some of the other guys on here to come up with a few good posts. Next time Im free, Ill make sure to get it there.

Getting to maybe is good, It helped understand some things, but don't just rely solely on it, adjust to the prof style.

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Re: Indiana University - Bloomington 1L's taking questions

Postby fenderjsm88 » Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:44 am

180 firms at UCLA's OCI? Are you allowed to participate in that as a transfer? If so, that's awesome and good luck!

Right now, I'm reading the first few chapters of the Contracts E&E (also ordered the other 3 E&Es for fall semester from Amazon,) just so I have some grounding the first few weeks of classes. I hear a lot of good things about LEEWS, but it's $160. Worth it? I might also look into Delaney's books.




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