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embarrassed/ashamed of your law school?
yes 25%  25%  [ 47 ]
no 74%  74%  [ 136 ]
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 Post subject: Re: anybody ashamed of what law school they go to?
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Gaius wrote:
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I’m just happy I had more options then cooking meth in a trailer in rural Kansas.


Now you get to be that guys lawyer.


If he pays me in free meth I'm all for it


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Hhhmmmm, Meth is what's for dinner!
Or
Meth not just for breakfast


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 Post subject: Re: anybody ashamed of what law school they go to?
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This one time at band camp...


I once dated this guy who told me he graduated from UF Law. I later found out he went to Nova Southeastern University Law.

Was this necessary? Why attend a school you will later regret associating yourself with?


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Gaius wrote:
Matthies wrote:
I’m just happy I had more options then cooking meth in a trailer in rural Kansas.


Now you get to be that guys lawyer.

Lmao amazing.


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 Post subject: Re: anybody ashamed of what law school they go to?
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Nope, but I'm gonna be very ashamed when I find out my class rank. The library is BUZZING at midnight on a Saturday. unbelievable.


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 Post subject: Re: anybody ashamed of what law school they go to?
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I didn't feel ashamed of my original school--I grew up in the city it was in, and going there had always been one of my higher ambitions. I didn't go for undergrad because the music program at Milwaukee was actually better than Madison's. That said, I was thrilled to get in for law school, and I would have been thrilled to graduate as a Wisconsin law student. On some level, I'm always going to consider myself a Wisconsin Law person--it really is a good law school, with a solid foundation in teaching people how to actually practice law. I have every intention on pulling hard for Wisconsin folks if I'm ever in a positing of interviewing for OCI.

However, all that said, the economy exploded, Heller Ehrman disintegrated (which comprised 50% of the V100 firms in my home state,) all of the other firms in Wisconsin were going to be grinding to a halt, the type of legal work done in the Wisconsin markets just isn't the same as what is done in Chicago, and I had a crushing feeling that Wisconsin wasn't going to get me where I wanted to go, in this economy. So, I worked as hard as I could to get the hell out of there, and managed to move a few hours southeast.

Being ashamed of going to a solid state school (particularly if you are paying in-state tuition) is silly. I don't know exactly when one crosses the line in to schools one should be ashamed of attending--frankly, it all depends on how much debt you're taking out, what your background/opportunities were earlier in life, what your goals are and so on--but I would think that "I'm ashamed to be going to this school" would be a really good reason to not go to the school in the first place.


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 Post subject: Re: anybody ashamed of what law school they go to?
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I am ashamed of my law school.


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CE2JD wrote:
I am ashamed of my law school.


Dug up a week-old thread for that little weak sauce troll? I expect better from you CE!


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 Post subject: Re: anybody ashamed of what law school they go to?
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only when i hear some of the questions that my academic peers come up with.


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 Post subject: Re: anybody ashamed of what law school they go to?
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Nope, but I'm gonna be very ashamed when I find out my class rank. The library is BUZZING at midnight on a Saturday. unbelievable.


+1

Either they are all working way harder than us or they are way dumber, or both.


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 Post subject: Re: anybody ashamed of what law school they go to?
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Bump

Why? I wonder if there are any 1LS out there who are starting to regret their choice of law school as finals loom


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 Post subject: Re: anybody ashamed of what law school they go to?
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OperaSoprano wrote:
Given the percentage of people on here going for/attending T14s, this poll seems a bit odd. Has TLS reached a new level of elitism whereby nothing south of Yale will do?


I think some people would be disappointed with Yale because they feel they had to settle, you know, as there wasn't a higher ranked school :)


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slider wrote:
This one time at band camp...


I once dated this guy who told me he graduated from UF Law. I later found out he went to Nova Southeastern University Law.

Was this necessary? Why attend a school you will later regret associating yourself with?


Better question: if you're going to lie about where you went to law school, WTF are you doing picking FLORIDA???


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This one time at band camp...


I once dated this guy who told me he graduated from UF Law. I later found out he went to Nova Southeastern University Law.

Was this necessary? Why attend a school you will later regret associating yourself with?


Better question: if you're going to lie about where you went to law school, WTF are you doing picking FLORIDA???


This.

Say you went to UVa.


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 Post subject: Re: anybody ashamed of what law school they go to?
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Rand M. wrote:
JSUVA2012 wrote:
slider wrote:
This one time at band camp...


I once dated this guy who told me he graduated from UF Law. I later found out he went to Nova Southeastern University Law.

Was this necessary? Why attend a school you will later regret associating yourself with?


Better question: if you're going to lie about where you went to law school, WTF are you doing picking FLORIDA???


This.

Say you went to UVa.


If you're going to lie, you'd have to be an idiot not to go with YHS.


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 Post subject: Re: anybody ashamed of what law school they go to?
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It's basically my fucked up class/geography issues that cause it, but I definitely feel ashamed of my fancy-schmancy t-14 because it's a fancy-schmancy t-14.


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 Post subject: Re: anybody ashamed of what law school they go to?
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biggamejames wrote:
It's basically my fucked up class/geography issues that cause it, but I definitely feel ashamed of my fancy-schmancy t-14 because it's a fancy-schmancy t-14.


Well with your biglaw salary you will be able to afford couseling!


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 Post subject: Re: anybody ashamed of what law school they go to?
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I attend a midwest law school that's not even top 50 (maybe top 100) and I am definitely not ashame of my school. I'm just amazed that there are some of you that are ashamed of your own schools! It difficult to fathom how much people are so insecure in their own abilities!

To put it all into perspective.....not too people are successful at gaining entry into a law school let alone T-14. For those that are successful in gaining entry, there's a small minority that don't make it past the first year due to some of these schools grading curves. And even those that graduate, you may have a tiny percentage that may not get licensed right away because they were not forecoming in their disclosures. And, of course, you may have a small percentage that may never pass the bar (usually because they give up too easy).

You also have to realize that usually the best of the brightest apply to a number of law schools across the country! That usually makes the average applicant mediocre depending on the school's LSAT/GPA median. If, despite your numbers, you're able to get in somewhere then you at least are going somewhere. Yeah, maybe it's not Harvard, Stanford, UCLA, or Penn, but you still represent a small representation of those who managed to get into a law school.

And don't let your school's perceived lack of prestige get in the way of your success!!!! Only you can determine where and how far you want to go in your career. Just because you're not at Harvard does not mean you're not going to be successful! Not everyone will get the opportunity to work for biglaw straight out of law school! There's a number of great attorneys who attended some pretty decent schools but managed to achieve a level of success that most can only dream of. Examples.........Former Supreme Court judge Thurgood Marshall (Howard U.), Former prosecutor Marcia Clark from the OJ Simpson case (Southwestern), Johnnie Cocharn (Loyola Marymouth), Watergate Prosecutor Leon Jaworski (Baylor), Former US Supreme Court judge Charles Evans Whittaker (Missouri-Kansas City) and countless others who are heads of corporations, politicians, and state judges. The key to your success is to NETWORK! If you can't do this, then it really doesn't matter where you go because people are likely to hire or help those who have some kind of relationship with an individual as a result of networking. I should personally know because this has hurt me when I initially graduated from college many years ago.

You also have to consider the current economy which may not correct itself in three years. You will need to market yourself effective by showing a prospective employer what distinguishes you from the other applicants. If you're not top 20, for example, then there are other things in your background that may be able to compensate for the lack of grades --- ie past work experience, special field of expertise (medical, engineering), certification (CPA, MBA), etc.

One last thing....grades are important for externships and for that first job out of law school. However, grades do not determine your ultimate future because in the end whether you have a 2.5 GPA or a 3.5 GPA you still have a J.D. and you have valuable, marketable skills which can translate into a non legal career if you choose to (ie human resource director, CEO, compliance officer, etc.). You can even start your own solo practice if you're motivated enough!

So for those that are whining about your choice of law school.....stop it and make the best of your situation if in case you're not able to transfer out. Because most people would envy to be in the position that you're in!


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To put it all into perspective.....not too people are successful at gaining entry into a law school let alone T-14


To attend law school in the U.S. you need...

1. A promissory note
2. A pulse

(2nd requirement is optional)


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 Post subject: Re: anybody ashamed of what law school they go to?
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Today I am kind of ashamed.

Fuck.


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 Post subject: Re: anybody ashamed of what law school they go to?
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hahahaha, go Badgers!

Also, to Mr. "Everything will be just fine if you belieeeeeveeeee"--best of luck in reality.


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hahahaha, go Badgers!

Also, to Mr. "Everything will be just fine if you belieeeeeveeeee"--best of luck in reality.



What do you mean? Care to elaborate?


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 Post subject: Re: anybody ashamed of what law school they go to?
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Re: The Badgers jab, I'm assuming that possum is ashamed of his school today because the Badgers just got done devouring Michigan.

Re: The reality jab--you are way, wayyyyyyy too optimistic about the prospects of law students in general, the portability of the degree outside of the legal field, etc. etc. As Mtal mentioned, getting in to law school in the first instance isn't much of an accomplishment, these days. That is not to say that you fall in to that category--you're going to a public school in the T100, so you're not in the dredges--but really, do you believe some of the feel-good nonsense you were chattering about in that post?


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There has never been a thread on TLS that I've wanted to delete more than this one, and no, not because of the Nesker thing. I believe we settled our differences, and I am glad of that.

Okay, maybe Splitt3r's "At what point would you drop out?" thread was worse, but not by much.


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I'm embarrassed for this thread.



+1000000000000000000000


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