shadowofjazz wrote: whats an updog wrote:
jj2014 wrote:How hard is it to get a job out west from UVA? Do many California or mountain-west firms recruit there? People I've talked to said it's possible, but it takes a little more effort than landing somewhere out east.
Haven't gone through OCI yet, but my impression is that it isn't that much harder. There is a pretty good (and growing) support network for people going out West but the overall emphasis of firms that visit and have receptions are Richmond/DC/NYC.
The last part about receptions is true for the earlier part of the year. HOWEVER, more firms, including Cali firms, will host receptions during the spring semester as well as during the summer in cities (with invitations sent to UVA students). There actually aren't that many firms that hold receptions overall though.
That being said, I believe most West Coast biglaw firms come to our OGI. I personally don't know anyone in my year (current 2Ls) that I know wanted California (LA, SF, SD, PA) and didn't get an offer or have an opportunity to work there (I know many who are doing public service in Cali as well who didn't have trouble finding jobs). This extends to Denver, Salt Lake, and Seattle as well; my knowledge of other West Coast cities is limited. If you have the ties and the grades, you're just as likely to get west coast. Grades will be important though, as you will be competing mostly with CA area schools (Stanford, Berkeley, UCLA, USC) and upper T14 (HY, CN, MVP) for those biglaw west coast spots (and since they prefer ties, USC and UCLA can be weighted just as high as the T14 schools).
TL;DR: If you have ties and get good grades, west coast will be open. Receptions won't be limited to only Richmond/DC/NYC firms.
I completely agree that a lot of firms do interview for their west coast offices during OGI but I also guarantee that they will ask you why you want to go to that city, which is something that people who are on the west coast don't have to deal with. However, I found that as long as you have something concrete and don't sound like you just want to spend your summer at the beach, they are understanding. (I think a lot of Californians love California so much that their reaction is usually - of course you want to live in California!)
I am going to a smaller market out west and I will say that I definitely had to hustle a bit during the summer, including making a trip out there to talk to firms that are not coming to OGI. I know some people who were hoping for west coast and I think they did the OTIP program for California. I think if you can get out there for your 1L summer you won't have a problem showing ties or interviewing with firms that aren't coming to OGI. If you aren't in the city you hope to go to, you need to really hustle your 1L summer.
Hootimestwo wrote: 0L here with a question: do you feel like it makes a big difference living really close to the school? If you live further away, do you feel like you've missed anything? FWIW I'll be living with my spouse- anyone married/living with SO care to share thoughts?
I moved here with my significant other and we lived close to the law school our first year and we moved a little bit farther away for 2L year. I generally think it is helpful to be close to school 1L year because there are a lot of activities that you might want to make sure you can easily get to campus for (receptions, student activity meetings, hanging out with friends, meeting with a professor, meeting with a study group, pre-games, etc.) and if you can get into Jeffersonian or Arlington Park Townhomes, then I think it's also affordable. Pavilion is also a nice option, but you can read about the strong opinions on where you should live close to campus earlier in this thread.
Living farther away definitely got me more bang for my buck, but having to drive to and from school, sometimes more than once a day, can get a little tiring. I also think that if you are planning to do a lot of socializing with your section, then living close by is helpful - a lot of nights start out at the pavilion so I think you might feel like you missed out on that if you live farther away. If you aren't planning on socializing as much because you'll be with your spouse, then it's more about priorities - do you want to live super close to school and be able to get up there quickly? Do you want to live a little bit outside the law school bubble and have a nicer place? Do you want to live downtown and take advantage of Charlottesville?
Hope that is helpful, feel free to PM me if you have any other questions.