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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby xylocarp » Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:12 pm

FloridaCoastalorbust wrote:Can any Dillards or others that are familiar with the scholarship discuss whether Dillards receive special treatment/mentoring? Or is it just a wheelbarrow of cash w/ no academic perks? Feel free to PM. TYIA.

also interested in this, if someone is PMing. super ok with wheelbarrows of cash though.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby Dream_weaver32 » Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:40 pm

xylocarp wrote:
FloridaCoastalorbust wrote:Can any Dillards or others that are familiar with the scholarship discuss whether Dillards receive special treatment/mentoring? Or is it just a wheelbarrow of cash w/ no academic perks? Feel free to PM. TYIA.

also interested in this, if someone is PMing. super ok with wheelbarrows of cash though.


I call following the wheelbarrow in case some drops out!

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby Yardbird » Sat Oct 25, 2014 1:41 pm

Dream_weaver32 wrote:
xylocarp wrote:
FloridaCoastalorbust wrote:Can any Dillards or others that are familiar with the scholarship discuss whether Dillards receive special treatment/mentoring? Or is it just a wheelbarrow of cash w/ no academic perks? Feel free to PM. TYIA.

also interested in this, if someone is PMing. super ok with wheelbarrows of cash though.


I call following the wheelbarrow in case some drops out!
you should probably call them "Dillard Scholars" when asking around; most people in the law school use "Dillard" to refer to "Dillard Fellows" which are not the same thing.

I believe 1L Dillard Scholars get a $5K stipend and a faculty mentor (in addition to the full tuition scholarship) but I could be wrong on that.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby xylocarp » Sat Oct 25, 2014 2:01 pm

shadowofjazz wrote:
Dream_weaver32 wrote:
xylocarp wrote:
FloridaCoastalorbust wrote:Can any Dillards or others that are familiar with the scholarship discuss whether Dillards receive special treatment/mentoring? Or is it just a wheelbarrow of cash w/ no academic perks? Feel free to PM. TYIA.

also interested in this, if someone is PMing. super ok with wheelbarrows of cash though.


I call following the wheelbarrow in case some drops out!
you should probably call them "Dillard Scholars" when asking around; most people in the law school use "Dillard" to refer to "Dillard Fellows" which are not the same thing.

I believe 1L Dillard Scholars get a $5K stipend and a faculty mentor (in addition to the full tuition scholarship) but I could be wrong on that.

thanks for the info! I wasn't aware of the other usage. I haven't heard anything about a stipend, but that would be awesome!

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby sl5uw13 » Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:44 pm

how much do employers care at 2L OGI if 1L spring you take bullshit classes to get a good gpa like professional responsibility and oral presentations?

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby anon sequitur » Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:48 pm

sl5uw13 wrote:how much do employers care at 2L OGI if 1L spring you take bullshit classes to get a good gpa like professional responsibility and oral presentations?


It's actually pretty hard to get an A- in the Shadel/Sayler rhetoric/oral presentations classes. It's pretty easy to get a B+, but I don't think they give out many A-'s at all. That's even more true for Balnave's PR. You don't have to spend a ton of time on those classes, so it might help with do better on other classes.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby sl5uw13 » Mon Oct 27, 2014 2:18 pm

how hard is corporations? because everyone says we should take it

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby 5ky » Mon Oct 27, 2014 2:51 pm

sl5uw13 wrote:how hard is corporations? because everyone says we should take it


Not particularly noteworthy either way. You'll probably go through a lot of material but none of it is terribly confusing.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby sl5uw13 » Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:51 pm

thanks!

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby North » Mon Oct 27, 2014 11:17 pm

Would it be too much to knock out Corps, Sec Trans, Banking & Finance, and Acct./Corp. Fin. in a semester?

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby 5ky » Mon Oct 27, 2014 11:26 pm

North wrote:Would it be too much to knock out Corps, Sec Trans, Banking & Finance, and Acct./Corp. Fin. in a semester?


Yeah you don't want to do that. What's the rush?

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby North » Mon Oct 27, 2014 11:31 pm

5ky wrote:Yeah you don't want to do that. What's the rush?

I know zero about transactional and need to fix that asap

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby 5ky » Mon Oct 27, 2014 11:42 pm

North wrote:
5ky wrote:Yeah you don't want to do that. What's the rush?

I know zero about transactional and need to fix that asap


you won't learn it from those and you won't need it for your summer.

secured transactions is pretty shitty and banking is kind of a nightmare. spread em out.

e: feel free to pm with any questions

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby anon sequitur » Mon Oct 27, 2014 11:53 pm

I'd like to take a 4 credit class for my 3L spring since it would make my schedule otherwise awesome. I'd like to enjoy last semester, I'll only be taking one "real" class. What do you think about these choices:

Federal Income Tax (with Mason)

Con Law II: Civil Liberties (with Laycock)

I know Laycock is a big deal, but are his classes fun/engaging? Is this a gunner course?

I've heard Mason is a good professor, but if I have no interest or background in tax, would that be a waste of time? I am not really math phobic, but I often get very, very bored and zone out when classes get highly technical about matters that have no interest to me (e.g., property).

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby sprezz » Tue Oct 28, 2014 12:08 am

laycock's dryer than a mitchell, but i find him pretty amusing. the content in that class should be better than tax too. he attracts some gunners but it's 3L who cares?

mason is at 830am friday btw...

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby 5ky » Tue Oct 28, 2014 12:09 am

anon sequitur wrote:I'd like to take a 4 credit class for my 3L spring since it would make my schedule otherwise awesome. I'd like to enjoy last semester, I'll only be taking one "real" class. What do you think about these choices:

Federal Income Tax (with Mason)

Con Law II: Civil Liberties (with Laycock)

I know Laycock is a big deal, but are his classes fun/engaging? Is this a gunner course?

I've heard Mason is a good professor, but if I have no interest or background in tax, would that be a waste of time? I am not really math phobic, but I often get very, very bored and zone out when classes get highly technical about matters that have no interest to me (e.g., property).


why bother taking tax if you have no interest in it?

laycock is the man. he is smart as hell.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby anon sequitur » Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:22 pm

sprezz wrote:mason is at 830am friday btw...


For various reasons, this is actually a plus for me. So long as the class is interesting, and not super demanding. Which I'm not sure about.

why bother taking tax if you have no interest in it?


I'm under the impression it's one of those classes you "should" take, like evidence or corporations. Disagree?

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby 5ky » Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:30 pm

anon sequitur wrote:
why bother taking tax if you have no interest in it?


I'm under the impression it's one of those classes you "should" take, like evidence or corporations. Disagree?


yeah, i disagree. not on the bar (NY anyway) and unless you're going into tax you won't ever really use it. there are tax specialists for that sort of thing, your job is just to coordinate with them and have them look at it.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby whats an updog » Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:14 pm

anyone know if anywhere on the uva homepage it describes how the lottery for 1L spring classes functions? or could just, you know, like, tell me bout it

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby jimmythecatdied6 » Wed Oct 29, 2014 9:48 am

Why bother taking tax if you have no interest in it? Well, if you have any interest in making decent amounts of money one day, it might be smart to learn how to strategically earn / spend so that you can get the most of your income / deductions. Or you can put your head in the sand and hand it off to "specialists," whatever works.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby sprezz » Wed Oct 29, 2014 11:09 am

one semester of fed income tax is not the difference between needing a specialist and not, soo..

op, i took tax. it's solid, but i think mostly because it gives you a lot of practice working through statutes. that puts a different lens on policy arguments, and iirc that's why teachers like coughlin and abraham suggested tax so strongly when we were 1Ls at that class picking advice thing in caplin auditorium. if you've dealt with statutory bodies of law before, i'd worry more about whether you liked that part of those classes than tax being a Class You Should Take.

1L - log into lawweb and click lawreg. then click 1L lottery instructions. basically you go into lawreg and click drop downs. put classes that you want the most at the top and others at the bottom. then you wait about a month and boom, you have a schedule

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby FloridaCoastalorbust » Wed Oct 29, 2014 11:38 am

Can any UVA student comment on their S/O living in DC while attending UVA?

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby Gooner91 » Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:55 pm

5ky wrote:
sl5uw13 wrote:how hard is corporations? because everyone says we should take it


Not particularly noteworthy either way. You'll probably go through a lot of material but none of it is terribly confusing.


As a 1l should I consider taking it in the spring with Kitch? Or should I wait and take it later?

Also thoughts on jurisprudence with Barzun?

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby sundance95 » Thu Oct 30, 2014 1:24 pm

FloridaCoastalorbust wrote:Can any UVA student comment on their S/O living in DC while attending UVA?

I did this. SO worked 4 days a week in DC, would Amtrak up Monday mornings and down Thursdays. We only did this 1L, but it worked out well--let me do the fun-with-section thing early in semesters, and the 1L-study later on, without too much negative effects on my S/O. Hard part is finding an affordable living situation in DC to make this work.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby Doritos » Thu Oct 30, 2014 3:04 pm

jimmythecatdied6 wrote:Why bother taking tax if you have no interest in it? Well, if you have any interest in making decent amounts of money one day, it might be smart to learn how to strategically earn / spend so that you can get the most of your income / deductions. Or you can put your head in the sand and hand it off to "specialists," whatever works.


lol at this guy.




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