UVA Law Students Taking Questions

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Br3v
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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby Br3v » Sat Aug 16, 2014 2:33 pm

How small does a class have to be for there to be no mandatory curve?

Or is that not a thing?

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby 5ky » Sat Aug 16, 2014 3:45 pm

Br3v wrote:How small does a class have to be for there to be no mandatory curve?

Or is that not a thing?


I don't think there are any uncurved classes. I took a short course with like 6 people in it that was still curved.

The fewer people, the more likely the curve could be dramatically adjusted for the avg student GPA, though

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby Br3v » Sat Aug 16, 2014 4:46 pm

5ky wrote:
Br3v wrote:How small does a class have to be for there to be no mandatory curve?

Or is that not a thing?


I don't think there are any uncurved classes. I took a short course with like 6 people in it that was still curved.

The fewer people, the more likely the curve could be dramatically adjusted for the avg student GPA, though


Paper courses too?

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby 5ky » Sat Aug 16, 2014 6:05 pm

Br3v wrote:
5ky wrote:
Br3v wrote:How small does a class have to be for there to be no mandatory curve?

Or is that not a thing?


I don't think there are any uncurved classes. I took a short course with like 6 people in it that was still curved.

The fewer people, the more likely the curve could be dramatically adjusted for the avg student GPA, though


Paper courses too?


Yep. I mean, they can be adjusted to the mean student GPA, I think, if the professor wants to, but they are still curved.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby hopinandprayin » Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:40 am

Any thoughts on these 1L professors? Thanks for your help!

Civ Pro: Heytens, Toby
Contracts: Mahoney, Paul G.
Torts: Armacost, Barbara
Crim Law: Bonnie, Richard
L&R: Buck, Ruth

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby fatheranderson15 » Sun Aug 17, 2014 11:11 am

Might as well join in on this! Any thoughts on Jason Johnston for Contracts, Anne Coughlin for Criminal Law, and John Duffy for Torts?

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby danitt » Sun Aug 17, 2014 11:31 am

hopinandprayin wrote:Any thoughts on these 1L professors? Thanks for your help!

Civ Pro: Heytens, Toby
Contracts: Mahoney, Paul G.
Torts: Armacost, Barbara
Crim Law: Bonnie, Richard
L&R: Buck, Ruth

Armacost is going to make you work. She does not allow laptops in class so you better be awake and engaged for class on just your notebook. And for God's sake do your reading because she cold calls and will stay on you and let you struggle through it even if you obviously haven't read. But I loved her class all the same because I came away feeling like I learned.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby 5ky » Sun Aug 17, 2014 11:35 am

Heytens for CivPro, Mahoney for Contracts and Coughlin are Crim are all just about as good as you can get.

Mahoney will tell you, but his exams are short and he will want your answers to be short. It was by far my shortest non word-limited exam

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby Br3v » Sun Aug 17, 2014 11:43 am

hopinandprayin wrote:Any thoughts on these 1L professors? Thanks for your help!

Civ Pro: Heytens, Toby
Contracts: Mahoney, Paul G.
Torts: Armacost, Barbara
Crim Law: Bonnie, Richard
L&R: Buck, Ruth


This doesn't matter, but just so you know, it's called "LRW"

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby steelythews » Sun Aug 17, 2014 12:16 pm

Best place to sleep at or very near the law school during my 4 hour break between classes?

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby Br3v » Sun Aug 17, 2014 12:25 pm

steelythews wrote:Best place to sleep at or very near the law school during my 4 hour break between classes?


To be honest, you'll probably be reading, but a lot of people sleep in the Klaus reading room. 2nd floor library.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby 5ky » Sun Aug 17, 2014 12:48 pm

Br3v wrote:
steelythews wrote:Best place to sleep at or very near the law school during my 4 hour break between classes?


To be honest, you'll probably be reading, but a lot of people sleep in the Klaus reading room. 2nd floor library.


THat place is the best

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby Mack12 » Sun Aug 17, 2014 1:23 pm

Br3v wrote:
steelythews wrote:Best place to sleep at or very near the law school during my 4 hour break between classes?


To be honest, you'll probably be reading, but a lot of people sleep in the Klaus reading room. 2nd floor library.


Seconding this. A lot of 1Ls, myself included, took that time to read or do assignments. I was actually probably most productive during the class break hours.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby sl5uw13 » Sun Aug 17, 2014 2:11 pm

What about

Civil Procedure Rutherglen, George
Contracts Geis, George S.
Criminal Law Coughlin, Anne M.
Legal Research and Writing Ware, Sarah S.
Torts Barzun, Charles

?

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby anon sequitur » Sun Aug 17, 2014 2:18 pm

sl5uw13 wrote:What about

Civil Procedure Rutherglen, George
Contracts Geis, George S.
Criminal Law Coughlin, Anne M.
Legal Research and Writing Ware, Sarah S.
Torts Barzun, Charles

?


That's a pretty sweet schedule. Geis is one of the best lecturers at UVA (his cold calls can be somewhat tough though), Coughlin is also widely considered to be great. Rutherglen is amusing (though honestly not the clearest conveyer of information) and very low-key. Barzun is well-liked, but I don't know much about him.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby Mack12 » Sun Aug 17, 2014 3:29 pm

sl5uw13 wrote:What about

Civil Procedure Rutherglen, George
Contracts Geis, George S.
Criminal Law Coughlin, Anne M.
Legal Research and Writing Ware, Sarah S.
Torts Barzun, Charles

?


Coughlin was really entertaining and clearly is an expert on crim law. I thought her lecturing could have been more clear though.
Ware was great, she's super nice, and presented information in a way that made it really easy to grasp. although that could just be because its LRW haha.
I loved Barzun's teaching style. outlines up on the board before each class, and wrap ups at the end of each segment. for cold calling, he picks someone at random each day and then just goes down the line. sticks with you for maybe 2-5 mins and moves on.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby WahooLaw24 » Mon Aug 18, 2014 3:32 pm

Any recommended Corporations supplement? I think Professor Kordana is using copy center materials this semester, so can't match it to a book or anything.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby Yardbird » Mon Aug 18, 2014 3:41 pm

WahooLaw24 wrote:Any recommended Corporations supplement? I think Professor Kordana is using copy center materials this semester, so can't match it to a book or anything.
if it's anything like Contracts, it won't be copy center materials - it'll be PDFs of cases on the course website. Nothing else.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby Yardbird » Tue Aug 19, 2014 10:09 am

Sorry for the double post.

Who do I talk to if my mailbox is suddenly missing after they reorganized mailboxes for 1Ls?

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby North » Tue Aug 19, 2014 11:12 am

shadowofjazz wrote:Sorry for the double post.

Who do I talk to if my mailbox is suddenly missing after they reorganized mailboxes for 1Ls?

:lol:

Lol, that sucks dude. Who does the mailboxes? Facilities? Student Affairs maybe?

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby Gooner91 » Tue Aug 19, 2014 11:08 pm

Maybe a stupid question. Can someone explain to me how to pay my bill on quikpay using my loans? The only options I see are for a echeck or credit card.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby anon sequitur » Tue Aug 19, 2014 11:11 pm

Gooner91 wrote:Maybe a stupid question. Can someone explain to me how to pay my bill on quikpay using my loans? The only options I see are for a echeck or credit card.


What other option are you hoping for?

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby Gooner91 » Tue Aug 19, 2014 11:15 pm

anon sequitur wrote:
Gooner91 wrote:Maybe a stupid question. Can someone explain to me how to pay my bill on quikpay using my loans? The only options I see are for a echeck or credit card.


What other option are you hoping for?


I don't have my loan money in my account. How do I use it to pay my bill?

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby albanach » Tue Aug 19, 2014 11:20 pm

5ky wrote:
Br3v wrote:How small does a class have to be for there to be no mandatory curve?

Or is that not a thing?


I don't think there are any uncurved classes. I took a short course with like 6 people in it that was still curved.

The fewer people, the more likely the curve could be dramatically adjusted for the avg student GPA, though


When the grade book was available, at least one (small) clinic was all B+. Someone asked a similar question and I took a look. I don't think there was any class that had eight or more students that didn't have a curve.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby anon sequitur » Tue Aug 19, 2014 11:46 pm

Gooner91 wrote:
I don't have my loan money in my account. How do I use it to pay my bill?


You don't, it's just applied automatically when it comes through. If you've already accepted all your loans, you should be on track as far as I understand. if you didn't do your FAFSA until late and don't have your aid yet, you need to talk to financial aid ASAP.




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