UVA Law Students Taking Questions

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby thesealocust » Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:40 pm

Madmen321 wrote:Can anyone comment on UVA's placement in Boston, other than what is listed on their website?


It's not Harvard, but I know lots of people who went to big firms in Boston and they have a legit presence at OGI.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby Br3v » Tue Oct 22, 2013 6:41 pm

Does putting more (less) time in to LRW make for an easier (harder) go at potential write on completions down the rd? (I know nobody here has data but do you think?)

Like should you really have citing and all that down pat after Dec?

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby sprezz » Tue Oct 22, 2013 7:35 pm

i don't think there's much overlap between success at LRW and success at the write on competition. to the extent that citing is the point of overlap, it will basically just overlap with the non-VLR part of the write on competition which is almost purely bluebooking.

there are other good reasons a person might want to put more than the bare minimum amount of time into LRW, but i don't think this is one.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby BigLawer » Tue Oct 22, 2013 8:15 pm

sprezz wrote:i don't think there's much overlap between success at LRW and success at the write on competition. to the extent that citing is the point of overlap, it will basically just overlap with the non-VLR part of the write on competition which is almost purely bluebooking.

there are other good reasons a person might want to put more than the bare minimum amount of time into LRW, but i don't think this is one.


This is not true. Minimal LRW work = more time for other classes.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby daleearnhardt123 » Tue Oct 22, 2013 8:16 pm

sprezz wrote:i don't think there's much overlap between success at LRW and success at the write on competition. to the extent that citing is the point of overlap, it will basically just overlap with the non-VLR part of the write on competition which is almost purely bluebooking.

there are other good reasons a person might want to put more than the bare minimum amount of time into LRW, but i don't think this is one.


Without getting into specifics I can confidently tell you that there's a non-trivial (perhaps some would even consider it "strong") correlation between LRW performance and Write-on success. And this is not just a one-off anecdote I'm basing my opinion on either.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby thesealocust » Tue Oct 22, 2013 9:20 pm

Yeah but law review is the worst thing on earth, and there's also a strong correlation between "law review won't help you much/at all in the job hunt if you didn't grade on" and reality.

LRW is stupid. Conceptually legal research, writing and analysis are important, but try-harding LRW probably isn't the best way to hone those skills.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby daleearnhardt123 » Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:05 pm

thesealocust wrote:Yeah but law review is the worst thing on earth, and there's also a strong correlation between "law review won't help you much/at all in the job hunt if you didn't grade on" and reality.

LRW is stupid. Conceptually legal research, writing and analysis are important, but try-harding LRW probably isn't the best way to hone those skills.


I also disagree with "VLR wont help you in the job hunt if you didn't grade on".

a VLR write-on at a 3.4 isnt gonna have the doors opened to him at the selective DC firms that a VLR grade-on will have, but a VLR write-on at 3.4 vs. a "standard" 3.4... who do you think the firm is giving the rebuttable presumption to?


That said, 1Ls, that marginal benefit is not worth the time it requires you to put in to get something out of LRW that will put you at an advantage come write-on time. Every minute you spend on LRW is a minute lost on crim/civpro/Ks/torts. That's not a smart strategy. Moreover, if you are self-assured that a 4.3 is coming to you in those classes, every minute spent on LRW is a minute lost on getting drunk. Not worth it.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby albanach » Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:21 pm

daleearnhardt123 wrote:
a VLR write-on at a 3.4 isnt gonna have the doors opened to him at the selective DC firms that a VLR grade-on will have, but a VLR write-on at 3.4 vs. a "standard" 3.4... who do you think the firm is giving the rebuttable presumption to?


The difference is probably more marginal than that between a 3.3 and 3.4. If the student forgoes one A- each semester and rides the B+ curve in exchange for working harder at LRW, I think that would be a poor tradeoff.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby lovejopd » Wed Oct 23, 2013 8:22 am

For UVA students who live or know those who live in the Pavillion, is it really rip-off/overpriced apartment? Most of reviews I found on Internet are outright negative. I am thinking about the Jeffersonians or Arlington Park town house if the Pavillion does not live up to the luxury apartment. I own my car and want to have spatious 2bed house which is close to the School. Thank you for your help in advance. :D

http://www.yelp.com/biz/the-pavilion-at ... ottesville

http://www.apartments.com/Virginia/Char ... ds/1122450

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby lovejopd » Wed Oct 23, 2013 8:54 am

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby North » Wed Oct 23, 2013 9:20 am

lovejopd wrote:For UVA students who live or know those who live in the Pavillion, is it really rip-off/overpriced apartment? Most of reviews I found on Internet are outright negative. I am thinking about the Jeffersonians or Arlington Park town house if the Pavillion does not live up to the luxury apartment. I own my car and want to have spatious 2bed house which is close to the School. Thank you for your help in advance. :D

http://www.yelp.com/biz/the-pavilion-at ... ottesville

http://www.apartments.com/Virginia/Char ... ds/1122450

The Pavilion would be overpriced even if there were nothing negative to say about it. There are plenty of places on Arlington that would meet your requirements for half the price.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby 5ky » Wed Oct 23, 2013 11:12 am

$50/month for parking? $10/night for overnight guests? Just lol @ pavilion and anybody who lives there. You could move literally across the street to a two bedroom townhouse, with a fenced in backyard, for 995/month and the first month's rent is free (or it was last I checked).

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby thesealocust » Wed Oct 23, 2013 11:37 am

$50/month for parking?????

That's hilarious and terrible.

Has Ivy reacted (by shutting down and/or lowering rates)?

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby Just » Wed Oct 23, 2013 9:58 pm

Comments on taking fed income tax for 1L spring? How hard is the class?

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby nacho cheese » Wed Oct 23, 2013 10:07 pm

gunner-heavy courses to avoid? 2L here trying to get a lot of credits out of the way this spring and don't want to screw myself

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby thesealocust » Wed Oct 23, 2013 10:12 pm

nacho cheese wrote:gunner-heavy courses to avoid? 2L here trying to get a lot of credits out of the way this spring and don't want to screw myself


Avoid: Fed courts, administrative law, jurisprudence. Things taught by Nelson, Schauer, Mahoney, and a few others.

Middle ground: "everyone takes it" doctrine classes (evidence, tax, corporations, etc.)

Seek out: Leslie courses, 'homework' seminars (read: no paper or exam), corporate focused class (guaranteed higher population of people who don't give a fuck about where you draw the line), practical/speaking courses (negotiation institute, hallmarks of distinguished advocacy, etc.), classes with profs you click with.

Grab bag: Seminars, clinics

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby cfr1225 » Wed Oct 23, 2013 10:46 pm

Just wrote:Comments on taking fed income tax for 1L spring? How hard is the class?


Lots of people do it. Probably more substantively difficult than other common 1L spring electives, but, hey, that's where the magic of the curve kicks in.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby thewaves » Thu Oct 24, 2013 12:21 am

How's the LGBT community at UVA?

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby danitt » Thu Oct 24, 2013 12:55 am

lovejopd wrote:For UVA students who live or know those who live in the Pavillion, is it really rip-off/overpriced apartment? Most of reviews I found on Internet are outright negative. I am thinking about the Jeffersonians or Arlington Park town house if the Pavillion does not live up to the luxury apartment. I own my car and want to have spatious 2bed house which is close to the School. Thank you for your help in advance. :D

http://www.yelp.com/biz/the-pavilion-at ... ottesville

http://www.apartments.com/Virginia/Char ... ds/1122450

I live at the Pavilion and it's fine. There were some issues at the beginning with the fire alarms but they seemed to have sorted those. I've never had a problem with the quality of anything in my apartment but maybe they didn't have to rush to complete mine on time.

I chose to live here because I wanted my own bathroom (the bathroom thing was REAL for me), I needed a pet friendly place, I wanted in unit washer/dryer and I don't have a car so I wanted to be close enough to walk wherever I needed to be. It was the only place that filled ALL of those needs. If you're flexible you can definitely find cheaper but it was pretty hard to find a place with 2/2 here that was close to the school.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby yngblkgifted » Fri Oct 25, 2013 3:47 pm

If anyone has a good (A- or better) outline for Geis for corporations, please PM me.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby thesealocust » Fri Oct 25, 2013 3:48 pm

yngblkgifted wrote:If anyone has a good (A- or better) outline for Geis for corporations, please PM me.


-.-

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby albanach » Sat Oct 26, 2013 2:52 pm

yngblkgifted wrote:If anyone has a good (A- or better) outline for Geis for corporations, please PM me.


Crap, he gives homework and he grades outlines?




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