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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby NoodleyOne » Fri Aug 16, 2013 12:34 pm

Trout et al wrote:What is the consensus among 2L's and 3L's on renting vs. buying 1L text books? Are they useful to have after the exams are taken?

I rented... never did it before, but staring down 160 bucks for used books made me say "fuck that".

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby sundance95 » Fri Aug 16, 2013 1:02 pm

NoodleyOne wrote:
Trout et al wrote:What is the consensus among 2L's and 3L's on renting vs. buying 1L text books? Are they useful to have after the exams are taken?

I rented... never did it before, but staring down 160 bucks for used books made me say "fuck that".

just remember to return them, i forgot and ended up buying new admin and evidence books :x :x :x :x

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby syd625 » Fri Aug 16, 2013 1:40 pm

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby digifly » Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:56 pm

Trout et al wrote:What is the consensus among 2L's and 3L's on renting vs. buying 1L text books? Are they useful to have after the exams are taken?


Apparently, if your rent your books and decide you need to keep them, you can just pay the difference at the end of the semester.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby BigLawer » Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:26 pm

Many classes say cant skip first class. It this just form? I have never had a prof take roll and am trying to schedule a callback on the first 3 days of class to get them done. I am guessing as long as I shoot the professor an email, it will be no big deal?

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby danitt » Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:45 pm

Do you know beforehand which professors allow laptops in class or is it something you find out on the first day?

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby hooma » Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:50 pm

danitt wrote:Do you know beforehand which professors allow laptops in class or is it something you find out on the first day?

You can check the syllabus on lawweb and usually find out that way.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby envisciguy » Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:53 pm

cfr1225 wrote:
Just wrote:
WahooLaw24 wrote:Advice/feedback on the following profs would be great as well!

Crim: Forde-Mazrui
Torts- Abraham
Civ Pro- Sinclair
K's- Hellman
LRW- Moran


Also asking for advice for this


Abraham is an all-star. I heard mixed (leaning negative) reviews about F-M's Con Law class last year, but I have no idea how he is in Crim. Moran is amazing. She's makes the class seem demanding at first, but that's just to scare you into not being completely blowing it off. She's actually incredibly nice and helpful.


KFM is a really nice guy, just not very engaging. So Con Law got boring real fast sometimes. Abraham is great, though intimidating at times, and between 50-60% of his class gets B+ if I remember correctly.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby NoodleyOne » Fri Aug 16, 2013 6:06 pm

Any info on Hynes for Contracts or Kendrick for Torts or Mitchell for CivPro?

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby Legal_Padawan » Fri Aug 16, 2013 6:43 pm

cfr1225 wrote:
Legal_Padawan wrote:Would greatly appreciate any input on my section.

Section I
Contracts - Choi
Crim Law - Coughlin
Torts - Harrison
Civil Procedure - Garrett
LRW - Buck


Coughlin is simultaneously amazing and frustrating, in that she tends to let gunners run the class. Harrison is interesting - you'll figure out what I mean by that. There is no other way I can describe him.

Moran is the best LRW prof, but Buck is ok.


Gracias

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby Just » Sat Aug 17, 2013 12:25 pm

recommended study aids for hellman's contract and abraham's torts?

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby anon sequitur » Sat Aug 17, 2013 12:49 pm

Just wrote:recommended study aids for hellman's contract and abraham's torts?


For Abraham's class, I'd recommend The Forms and Functions of Tort Law, written by an insightful fellow named Kenneth Abraham.

Seriously though, if you're in Abraham's class, do not read a single page of anything but the case book and Abraham's book. Anything else is worse than a waste of time.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby InferenceOptional » Sat Aug 17, 2013 12:56 pm

Legal_Padawan wrote:
cfr1225 wrote:
Legal_Padawan wrote:Would greatly appreciate any input on my section.

Section I
Contracts - Choi
Crim Law - Coughlin
Torts - Harrison
Civil Procedure - Garrett
LRW - Buck


Coughlin is simultaneously amazing and frustrating, in that she tends to let gunners run the class. Harrison is interesting - you'll figure out what I mean by that. There is no other way I can describe him.

Moran is the best LRW prof, but Buck is ok.


Gracias

You're underrating Buck. What you really need in LRW is someone who won't really make you do any work as long as you're respectful. Wanting to be a good LRW'er is gunnerish.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby Yardbird » Sat Aug 17, 2013 1:17 pm

Low's supplement for Low? or use Dressler? or both?

Also what supplements for Nelson (CivPro), White (Torts) and Kordana (Ks)?

Lastly, is the Lawyers Craft necessary? I just bought the bluebook for now.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby anon sequitur » Sat Aug 17, 2013 1:34 pm

shadowofjazz wrote:Low's supplement for Low? or use Dressler? or both?

Also what supplements for Nelson (CivPro), White (Torts) and Kordana (Ks)?

Lastly, is the Lawyers Craft necessary? I just bought the bluebook for now.


If you have Moran, she'd occasionally cold call about stuff in the text that she'd ask us to read. But only 2-3 times the whole year, if I remember. I bought it and then was able to sell back my copy on Amazon (in nearly new condition) for about $25.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby Cavalier » Sat Aug 17, 2013 2:04 pm

shadowofjazz wrote:Low's supplement for Low? or use Dressler? or both?

Also what supplements for Nelson (CivPro), White (Torts) and Kordana (Ks)?

Lastly, is the Lawyers Craft necessary? I just bought the bluebook for now.

Use Low's. I was never a fan of supplements, but if one of your professors has written one, you should always get it. Some professors will ask exam questions directly from their supplements...

I never opened the Lawyer's Craft once. It's a waste of money.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby cfr1225 » Sat Aug 17, 2013 2:59 pm

shadowofjazz wrote:Low's supplement for Low? or use Dressler? or both?

Also what supplements for Nelson (CivPro), White (Torts) and Kordana (Ks)?

Lastly, is the Lawyers Craft necessary? I just bought the bluebook for now.


There is no supplement that can prepare you for Nelson's Civ Pro exam. He'll probably record all of his lectures, so you are honestly better off just going back and listening to stuff that isn't clear. Most civ pro supplements will oversimplify stuff to the extent that it will be useless to you.

As for Torts, Abraham's supplement is useful if there's going to be a policy oriented question. You really won't need to read it until closer to exam time, though.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby Br3v » Sat Aug 17, 2013 4:47 pm

If we are going to use supplements, when should we have those by? I ask because I am low on cash.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby Deep Trench » Sat Aug 17, 2013 4:54 pm

Br3v wrote:If we are going to use supplements, when should we have those by? I ask because I am low on cash.


I usually wait a couple of weeks after the first class to get a feel for what the professor teaches. Then, I go to the law school bookstore and browse supplements to see which one is best aligned with the professor's lectures. Then, I go to half.com or amazon.com to buy the previous revision of that supplement for about $5 + shipping.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby Br3v » Sat Aug 17, 2013 5:09 pm

Deep Trench wrote:
Br3v wrote:If we are going to use supplements, when should we have those by? I ask because I am low on cash.


I usually wait a couple of weeks after the first class to get a feel for what the professor teaches. Then, I go to the law school bookstore and browse supplements to see which one is best aligned with the professor's lectures. Then, I go to half.com or amazon.com to buy the previous revision of that supplement for about $5 + shipping.


I planned on something like this so that works out. Thank you.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby envisciguy » Sat Aug 17, 2013 6:58 pm

anon sequitur wrote:
Just wrote:recommended study aids for hellman's contract and abraham's torts?


For Abraham's class, I'd recommend The Forms and Functions of Tort Law, written by an insightful fellow named Kenneth Abraham.

Seriously though, if you're in Abraham's class, do not read a single page of anything but the case book and Abraham's book. Anything else is worse than a waste of time.


The above is 100% true. Read Abraham's supplement along with the case book throughout the semester. During cold calls, he's often looking for the exact wording and sentiments that he wrote in the supplement.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby envisciguy » Sat Aug 17, 2013 7:02 pm

Br3v wrote:If we are going to use supplements, when should we have those by? I ask because I am low on cash.


Others may disagree with me, but I don't think you need any supplements until November at the earliest.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby yngblkgifted » Sat Aug 17, 2013 8:51 pm

NoodleyOne wrote:Any info on Hynes for Contracts or Kendrick for Torts or Mitchell for CivPro?


Mitchell was the funniest professor I've ever had. That includes all four years of undergrad fwiw. Moreover he is very clear and gives great examples in class. But he gave like 80% of the class a B+ so if you're gunnerish and shooting for that "A" it might be difficult. If you're a slacker like I was, you'll appreciate it.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby yngblkgifted » Sat Aug 17, 2013 8:56 pm

Legal_Padawan wrote:Would greatly appreciate any input on my section.

Section I
Contracts - Choi
Crim Law - Coughlin
Torts - Harrison
Civil Procedure - Garrett
LRW - Buck

Also, we have an 8:50AM class on Friday? Followed by two more? Is this some sort of sick joke? That's 3 more Friday classes than I was expecting.

And this may be a stupid question, but is there a place online where we can see which books we need to get? The bookstore has them laid out by section, but there's gotta be an easier way than walking over there and writing each one down...


Choi is brilliant but absolutely sucks as a professor. Get a hornbook and teach that shit to yourself.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby Apple Tree » Sun Aug 18, 2013 12:09 am

Is it too much work to take Crim Pro + Sec Reg + Sec'd Trans at the same time? My other classes are supposed to be easy/fluffy.




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