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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby 005618502 » Wed Feb 06, 2013 10:47 am

Eichörnchen wrote:
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Eichörnchen wrote:Thanks so much for the info everyone. It would feel pretty good to wrap up housing before I left for my trip. It is just such a huge decision to settle on a school :-O It doesn't help that a friend is insisting that I will end up destitute and interview-less if I choose UVA over Chicago. :-P


Tell your friend that Charlottesville gets better weather.

Both are great schools, I'm sure you'd like either. Personally though, I love Charlottesville and the school has good reach into every market.

That's pretty much exactly what I said. :lol: Not to mention a six figure scholly! That was pretty much the dream scenario. And I mean, you gotta factor in the wind chill.

Today my mother is in Charlottesville (she lives right near DC) and I asked her to scope out a spot I'm really interested in for me - she brought me the bad news that she's seen multiple people walking dogs. Noooooooooooooo. My last two apartments taught me how quickly an untrained, unattended dog can ruin lives.


Live in Ivy, they dont allow dogs (although, who doesnt like dogs?)

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby danitt » Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:15 am

AssumptionRequired wrote:
Eichörnchen wrote:
albanach wrote:
Eichörnchen wrote:Thanks so much for the info everyone. It would feel pretty good to wrap up housing before I left for my trip. It is just such a huge decision to settle on a school :-O It doesn't help that a friend is insisting that I will end up destitute and interview-less if I choose UVA over Chicago. :-P


Tell your friend that Charlottesville gets better weather.

Both are great schools, I'm sure you'd like either. Personally though, I love Charlottesville and the school has good reach into every market.

That's pretty much exactly what I said. :lol: Not to mention a six figure scholly! That was pretty much the dream scenario. And I mean, you gotta factor in the wind chill.

Today my mother is in Charlottesville (she lives right near DC) and I asked her to scope out a spot I'm really interested in for me - she brought me the bad news that she's seen multiple people walking dogs. Noooooooooooooo. My last two apartments taught me how quickly an untrained, unattended dog can ruin lives.

Live in Ivy, they dont allow dogs (although, who doesnt like dogs?)

Sociopaths!!!!

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby Eichörnchen » Wed Feb 06, 2013 12:20 pm

AssumptionRequired wrote:
Eichörnchen wrote:
albanach wrote:
Eichörnchen wrote:Thanks so much for the info everyone. It would feel pretty good to wrap up housing before I left for my trip. It is just such a huge decision to settle on a school :-O It doesn't help that a friend is insisting that I will end up destitute and interview-less if I choose UVA over Chicago. :-P


Tell your friend that Charlottesville gets better weather.

Both are great schools, I'm sure you'd like either. Personally though, I love Charlottesville and the school has good reach into every market.

That's pretty much exactly what I said. :lol: Not to mention a six figure scholly! That was pretty much the dream scenario. And I mean, you gotta factor in the wind chill.

Today my mother is in Charlottesville (she lives right near DC) and I asked her to scope out a spot I'm really interested in for me - she brought me the bad news that she's seen multiple people walking dogs. Noooooooooooooo. My last two apartments taught me how quickly an untrained, unattended dog can ruin lives.


Live in Ivy, they dont allow dogs (although, who doesnt like dogs?)

I absolutely LOVE dogs actually. But I had a terrible experience in my last apartment. The dog would bark without pause for 4-5 hours straight (don't they get sore throats? I guess not) and if the owner was home they would scream "WHY DON'T YOU SHUT UPPP!" at it. Needless to say it made LSAT prep a breeze.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby albanach » Wed Feb 06, 2013 2:08 pm

Eichörnchen wrote:Today my mother is in Charlottesville (she lives right near DC) and I asked her to scope out a spot I'm really interested in for me - she brought me the bad news that she's seen multiple people walking dogs. Noooooooooooooo. My last two apartments taught me how quickly an untrained, unattended dog can ruin lives.


Wouldn't people walking dogs be pretty much the antithesis of untrained, unattended dogs? Or are you referring to a problem with barking?

Albemarle County has a barking ordnance. I believe the city does also.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby Eichörnchen » Wed Feb 06, 2013 2:26 pm

albanach wrote:
Eichörnchen wrote:Today my mother is in Charlottesville (she lives right near DC) and I asked her to scope out a spot I'm really interested in for me - she brought me the bad news that she's seen multiple people walking dogs. Noooooooooooooo. My last two apartments taught me how quickly an untrained, unattended dog can ruin lives.


Wouldn't people walking dogs be pretty much the antithesis of untrained, unattended dogs? Or are you referring to a problem with barking?

Albemarle County has a barking ordnance. I believe the city does also.

See above ^ :-P Just don't want a repeat of that. Once you've had a really really bad experience with hours of barking/howling per day, it leaves one scarred. :shock: :lol:

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby albanach » Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:41 pm

Eichörnchen wrote:See above ^ :-P Just don't want a repeat of that. Once you've had a really really bad experience with hours of barking/howling per day, it leaves one scarred. :shock: :lol:


I understand. I think most apartment complexes would be pretty intolerant. I think rather than rule out a place because they accept dogs, I'd ask their policy and what they've done in the past about such behavior - ideally in writing.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby North » Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:28 am

So, I'm from Florida. My winter gear consists of one coat and three or four sweaters. What am I going to need to survive a Charlottesville winter? Long johns or something?

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby 005618502 » Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:17 am

North wrote:So, I'm from Florida. My winter gear consists of one coat and three or four sweaters. What am I going to need to survive a Charlottesville winter? Long johns or something?


:lol:

I dont think anyone wears long Johns. I am from southern CA. I have 3 jackets, a couple sweatshirts and thats it. You will be fine.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby Eichörnchen » Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:34 pm

North wrote:So, I'm from Florida. My winter gear consists of one coat and three or four sweaters. What am I going to need to survive a Charlottesville winter? Long johns or something?

:lol: Charlottesville has winter?

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby North » Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:54 pm

Eichörnchen wrote: :lol: Charlottesville has winter?

I hear there's snow. That's going to be wierd.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby Eichörnchen » Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:32 pm

Well...I'm off work today because the snow plows couldn't keep up last night and the roads are buried. So I'm excited about Charlottesville's "winter". :P It's 51 there right now! That's early summer weather! Awwwyeaaaaaaaaaa.

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(Also you can borrow my snowshoes just so I can watch you try to walk to class in them in a 1/4 inch dusting. It would be awesome)

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby digifly » Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:00 pm

Eichörnchen wrote:Well...I'm off work today because the snow plows couldn't keep up last night and the roads are buried. So I'm excited about Charlottesville's "winter". :P It's 51 there right now! That's early summer weather! Awwwyeaaaaaaaaaa.

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(Also you can borrow my snowshoes just so I can watch you try to walk to class in them in a 1/4 inch dusting. It would be awesome)


Laughing at 51 being "early Summer weather." That'd be a rough winter in SoCal.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby envisciguy » Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:31 pm

North wrote:So, I'm from Florida. My winter gear consists of one coat and three or four sweaters. What am I going to need to survive a Charlottesville winter? Long johns or something?


I'm from Florida too and this whole winter/snow thing isn't that bad. I got one winter jacket and some long sleeve lightweight thermals from the Old Navy down the street from the law school. You don't need much more than that.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby Eichörnchen » Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:18 pm

digifly wrote:
Eichörnchen wrote:Well...I'm off work today because the snow plows couldn't keep up last night and the roads are buried. So I'm excited about Charlottesville's "winter". :P It's 51 there right now! That's early summer weather! Awwwyeaaaaaaaaaa.

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(Also you can borrow my snowshoes just so I can watch you try to walk to class in them in a 1/4 inch dusting. It would be awesome)


Laughing at 51 being "early Summer weather." That'd be a rough winter in SoCal.

Yea I won't miss this weather.

So guys will I be ostracized for not playing softball? My interest in it ranges from 0 to -45 on a scale of 1 to 10.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby jkpolk » Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:24 pm

Eichörnchen wrote:Yea I won't miss this weather.

So guys will I be ostracized for not playing softball? My interest in it ranges from 0 to -45 on a scale of 1 to 10.

Just show up to meet people. It's fun to see classmates in a non-class setting. You don't have to play if you don't want to.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby North » Sat Feb 09, 2013 12:17 am

I want to play (even got a glove), but is it a huge time investment?

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby jkpolk » Sat Feb 09, 2013 1:19 am

North wrote:I want to play (even got a glove), but is it a huge time investment?


1 hour a week

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby ercmilla » Sat Feb 09, 2013 3:57 am

5ky wrote:
Br3v wrote:
albanach wrote:
WhiteyCakes wrote:
Would filing taxes in VA and having a VA license help?


I'd think it unlikely. If you bought a house it might help. It would help a lot more if you were married and your spouse had a permanent job in the state or if you have a post-graduation job offer from an in-state employer.

Here's the code section http://leg1.state.va.us/000/cod/23-7.4.HTM


What do you mean by "help"? Is each person on a case by case basis and individually reviewed by someone?


Anyone can fill out an application for in-state tuition if they want, so sure, that would be reviewed.

But just about every UVA student who has responded telling you that it is not going to happen -- if it were as easy as paying taxes and getting a VA driver's license, nobody would pay the extra 10k for 2L and 3L combined.

You can read the code albanach posted, and also look here:
Section 05. Residence for educational purposes.

A. Mere physical presence or residence primarily for educational purposes will not confer domiciliary status. For example, a student who moves to Virginia for the primary purposes of becoming a full-time student is not a Virginia domiciliary, even if the student has been in Virginia for the required one-year period.


Again, the problem is that (1) living in VA for educational purposes won't meet the requirement of living in Virginia for one year (you need to live in VA one year PRIOR to starting at school), and (2) it would be difficult to meet the intent to stay aspect.

As albanach says, might be possible if you have a permanent job offer letter in VA to show them, but you wouldn't have that until after your second year. It might be a little easier if you're married and your spouse has a job in Virginia, as others have pointed out. But that's really irrelevant to your owning a VA driver's license, etc.


I have a bit of a special situation. If anyone can shed any light on it whatsoever, I would be very grateful.

I grew up in Virginia and actually attended UVA for undergrad. Upon graduation, I stayed in Virginia and worked for some time. About a year ago, I moved to Georgia (got a Georgia drivers license, Georgia address, and file taxes here because it's where I receive my check). However, I still have a residence in Virginia and I live/work in there for roughly 2 months every year. Would I be considered an in-state student by UVA at this point?

Either way, I figure it won't hurt to at least apply. Nothing to lose, lots to gain.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby 5ky » Sat Feb 09, 2013 4:03 am

ercmilla wrote:
I have a bit of a special situation. If anyone can shed any light on it whatsoever, I would be very grateful.

I grew up in Virginia and actually attended UVA for undergrad. Upon graduation, I stayed in Virginia and worked for some time. About a year ago, I moved to Georgia (got a Georgia drivers license, Georgia address, and file taxes here because it's where I receive my check). However, I still have a residence in Virginia and I live/work in there for roughly 2 months every year. Would I be considered an in-state student by UVA at this point?

Either way, I figure it won't hurt to at least apply. Nothing to lose, lots to gain.


I don't know. You have a better chance than 99% of other people moving to VA just to go to school here, though. It might depend on whether you became a resident of Georgia or not (my guess is that you did). But for a native son/daughter returning home, you might have a shot. Sorry I don't have anything more specific -- like you said, you don't lose anything by applying.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby dixon02 » Sat Feb 09, 2013 4:42 am

5ky wrote:
ercmilla wrote:
I have a bit of a special situation. If anyone can shed any light on it whatsoever, I would be very grateful.

I grew up in Virginia and actually attended UVA for undergrad. Upon graduation, I stayed in Virginia and worked for some time. About a year ago, I moved to Georgia (got a Georgia drivers license, Georgia address, and file taxes here because it's where I receive my check). However, I still have a residence in Virginia and I live/work in there for roughly 2 months every year. Would I be considered an in-state student by UVA at this point?

Either way, I figure it won't hurt to at least apply. Nothing to lose, lots to gain.


I don't know. You have a better chance than 99% of other people moving to VA just to go to school here, though. It might depend on whether you became a resident of Georgia or not (my guess is that you did). But for a native son/daughter returning home, you might have a shot. Sorry I don't have anything more specific -- like you said, you don't lose anything by applying.


If memory serves, there is something on the form about how many of the last x years you've lived in Virginia, so you might be good. Either way, TLS is not the place where you're going to find the answer to this question. Just call admissions and ask them to send you the in-state tuition form so you can read it over. I believe the form itself was pretty clear.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby 005618502 » Sat Feb 09, 2013 11:58 am

digifly wrote:
Eichörnchen wrote:Well...I'm off work today because the snow plows couldn't keep up last night and the roads are buried. So I'm excited about Charlottesville's "winter". :P It's 51 there right now! That's early summer weather! Awwwyeaaaaaaaaaa.

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(Also you can borrow my snowshoes just so I can watch you try to walk to class in them in a 1/4 inch dusting. It would be awesome)


Laughing at 51 being "early Summer weather." That'd be a rough winter in SoCal.


I am from SoCal... it has lows in the 40s/50s ALL the time. For example, the low today is 37 and high is 57. I hate when people try to make it sound like its actually always 70s in Cali.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby 005618502 » Sat Feb 09, 2013 12:00 pm

dixon02 wrote:
5ky wrote:
ercmilla wrote:
I have a bit of a special situation. If anyone can shed any light on it whatsoever, I would be very grateful.

I grew up in Virginia and actually attended UVA for undergrad. Upon graduation, I stayed in Virginia and worked for some time. About a year ago, I moved to Georgia (got a Georgia drivers license, Georgia address, and file taxes here because it's where I receive my check). However, I still have a residence in Virginia and I live/work in there for roughly 2 months every year. Would I be considered an in-state student by UVA at this point?

Either way, I figure it won't hurt to at least apply. Nothing to lose, lots to gain.


I don't know. You have a better chance than 99% of other people moving to VA just to go to school here, though. It might depend on whether you became a resident of Georgia or not (my guess is that you did). But for a native son/daughter returning home, you might have a shot. Sorry I don't have anything more specific -- like you said, you don't lose anything by applying.


If memory serves, there is something on the form about how many of the last x years you've lived in Virginia, so you might be good. Either way, TLS is not the place where you're going to find the answer to this question. Just call admissions and ask them to send you the in-state tuition form so you can read it over. I believe the form itself was pretty clear.


I actually think you will get it! Just say that it was only a temporary move (it was). Honestly, I would fight it if they dont give it to you because you have a legit claim at it and it will save you a decent amount of money if you think about it over the 3 years.

GL!

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby anon sequitur » Sat Feb 09, 2013 12:15 pm

I had a somewhat similar situation regarding residency, and I got it. However, I had "officially" moved back to VA more than a year before classes were scheduled to begin, which is probably the most important metric. Another big thing will be whether or not you filed income tax with VA. I had returns for multiple states including VA, but I think if you have only other states for your most recent year, you might be presumed out of state.

Disclaimer: I probably have no idea what I'm talking about.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby digifly » Sat Feb 09, 2013 4:17 pm


I am from SoCal... it has lows in the 40s/50s ALL the time. For example, the low today is 37 and high is 57. I hate when people try to make it sound like its actually always 70s in Cali.


First of all, the rough winter thing was a joke. Laughing at 51 being "early summer weather was not." You ever see a high of 51 in early summer that wasn't an oddity? Sure it's 57 right now in OC, but in two days we're back at 75. And the average is consistently higher. Unless you are comparing CA in the middle of the night with the East Coast at midday. Then sure, the weather is the same.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby Eichörnchen » Sun Feb 10, 2013 12:08 am

Yea if anyone here is gonna argue that SoCal doesn't have awesome mild weather through winter I will laugh at you while reminiscing about how the snow on my car this morning was too deep to use my ice scraper. 57 is way warm. And apparently unusually cold in general for you.

I hate you guys.

(At least...um...my total lack of sunlight exposure for at least half my life means I will age marginally better. Gotta look on the bright side. :| )




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