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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby paulinaporizkova » Tue Aug 28, 2012 1:56 pm

What's the deal with Civil Liberties? Why is there a Friday and a Saturday class requirement totaling 4 credit hours for a two credit class but it looks like they're 2 separate classes? So confused.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby bgdddymtty » Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:14 pm

paulinaporizkova wrote:What's the deal with Civil Liberties? Why is there a Friday and a Saturday class requirement totaling 4 credit hours for a two credit class but it looks like they're 2 separate classes? So confused.

There are several classes that are offered in this format, generally in order to allow legal practitioners to teach courses on the side. The basic deal is that you have class one Friday afternoon/evening and then the next morning, more or less every other week. Each course is either on the "A" or "B" weekend schedule, and you can find the respective schedules on LawWeb. In the case of Civil Liberties, the class page on LawWeb states "NOTE: This B weekend course meets on September 1, 14, 15, 28, 29; October 12, 13, 26, 27; November 9, 10 and 16."

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby bgdddymtty » Tue Aug 28, 2012 5:37 pm

BTW, thanks for turning me on to what--other than the timeslot--has to be the perfect 3L class. One hundred percent of my grade is based on participation? Yes, please.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby albanach » Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:53 pm

bgdddymtty wrote:BTW, thanks for turning me on to what--other than the timeslot--has to be the perfect 3L class. One hundred percent of my grade is based on participation? Yes, please.


Participation early doors on Saturday mornings? Not the class for me.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby bgdddymtty » Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:55 pm

albanach wrote:
bgdddymtty wrote:BTW, thanks for turning me on to what--other than the timeslot--has to be the perfect 3L class. One hundred percent of my grade is based on participation? Yes, please.


Participation early doors on Saturday mornings? Not the class for me.

Which is why there were five slots left when I added the class.

I gots kids. Wasn't gonna get to sleep in anyway.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby letmk » Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:54 pm

So what are the best hornbooks for Evidence (Mitchell) and Corporations (Morley)? Thanks.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby Twiqbal » Sat Sep 01, 2012 8:43 pm

Is there anyone who had Sinclair for Civ Pro and can offer advice?

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby Law Sauce » Mon Sep 03, 2012 8:23 pm

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Criminal Law Commercial Outline by Professor Low, 2nd Ed. - $10
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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby jwinaz » Fri Sep 07, 2012 6:32 pm

Hi. New here and apologize if this question has already been asnwered before. I saw there were so many pages in this topic that I honestly wouldn't have time to read them all.

If people don't mind sharing, however (even if again), what is the cost of living like for UVA law school? Thanks.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby bgdddymtty » Fri Sep 07, 2012 7:02 pm

The financial aid budget is a little under $20K for the year once you pay the PLUS loan fees. Most single students agree that you can get by with a good bit less than that/have enough left over to cover the summer if you're willing to live with a roommate.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby 005618502 » Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:40 pm

If you take a "short course" winter of your 1L year could you take one less class your 1L spring? (one less elective or something). I will be staying over the break, so I would consider this if it is possible. One less class 2nd semester would definitely help my progress in my other classes

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby thesealocust » Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:41 pm

Nope.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby 005618502 » Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:46 pm

thesealocust wrote:Nope.


Then what in the world is the benefit? one less class as a 3L or something.

lame

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby 5ky » Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:46 pm

You can, however, take a 4 credit course (Corporations, Evidence) and then a 1 credit short course. That would substantially reduce your workload. But short course grading is kind of wonky, so you assume that risk.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby Tom Joad » Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:46 pm

AssumptionRequired wrote:
thesealocust wrote:Nope.


Then what in the world is the benefit? one less class as a 3L or something.

lame

1 credit of an A hopefully. Seems like a drag to me though.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby dailygrind » Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:49 pm

There are also a few courses which are close to guaranteed B+s. Off the top of my head, Rhetoric with Sayler is straight B+ city - when I checked it was 14/15 B+, 1 A-; with the year before that something similar but with 2 A-. It means you have to eat a B+, but it also means that you get a free credit where you do very little work. I think some seminars are also incredibly B+ heavy, but those require actual work.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby 005618502 » Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:53 pm

5ky wrote:You can, however, take a 4 credit course (Corporations, Evidence) and then a 1 credit short course. That would substantially reduce your workload. But short course grading is kind of wonky, so you assume that risk.


Is this a good idea? Assuming you can get one of those 1 hour classes/seminars that are B+ heavy. 14/15 B+ is crazy, at least you dont have to worry about it putting you below median though....

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby bgdddymtty » Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:06 pm

AssumptionRequired wrote:
5ky wrote:You can, however, take a 4 credit course (Corporations, Evidence) and then a 1 credit short course. That would substantially reduce your workload. But short course grading is kind of wonky, so you assume that risk.


Is this a good idea? Assuming you can get one of those 1 hour classes/seminars that are B+ heavy. 14/15 B+ is crazy, at least you dont have to worry about it putting you below median though....

I wouldn't worry about it from a grades perspective unless you think you might be in the hunt to grade onto law review. (Of course, you have to make the decision of whether to take a J-term class long before you've taken any finals.) The break is really long. If you don't have something else going on, and if you find a subject that interests you, go for it. I've done J-term both years and am signed up for this year as well. The result: I have no finals and only one substantive paper this semester, and I'm in class less than 10 hours per week.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby thesealocust » Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:12 pm

1L Spring I took a 3 credit lecture course and a 2-week long short course that was 2 credits. It was awesome (except during those two weeks and the paper writing afterward, which seriously interfered with feb club)

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby 5ky » Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:01 pm

It's up to you. I will say that if you end up below median 1st semester, taking very few credits might not be the best idea, because even if you did well, it wouldn't raise your cumulative GPA very much. On the other hand, you would have less work, and might be able to devote more time to your classes, but I suspect that's not going to help all that much.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby darkarmour » Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:49 pm

5ky wrote:It's up to you. I will say that if you end up below median 1st semester, taking very few credits might not be the best idea, because even if you did well, it wouldn't raise your cumulative GPA very much. On the other hand, you would have less work, and might be able to devote more time to your classes, but I suspect that's not going to help all that much.


Yes, if you did poorly first semester, it's imperative you strategize to get that GPA back up. As 5ky says, it's about balance--if you think you can perform under a bigger credit load, the payoff is great.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby anon sequitur » Thu Sep 13, 2012 2:13 am

Law Sauce wrote:If anyone is still in the market I have the following for sale:

Criminal Law E&E, 4th ed. - $10
Civ Pro E&E (Glannon), 6th ed. - $10
Torts E&E, 4th ed. - $10
Contract E&E, 2nd ed. -$10

Federal Income Tax E&E, 5th ed. - $10

Criminal Law Commercial Outline by Professor Low, 2nd Ed. - $10
Understanding Criminal Law, Dressler 3rd ed - $10
^ this one in particular I felt was very helpful

Torts Legalines case summaries, for use with Epstein casebook - $5

PM me if interested and I'll get them to you ASAP.

You still have all of these? Could you do a package deal for all the first semester materials?

Thanks, let me know.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby Hspeaksfriend » Fri Sep 14, 2012 3:06 pm

How are all the 1Ls doing after the first few weeks of school? I'll be in your shoes next year 8)

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby chem » Fri Sep 14, 2012 8:38 pm

Hspeaksfriend wrote:How are all the 1Ls doing after the first few weeks of school? I'll be in your shoes next year 8)


Keeping up with the social life is more work then doing the schoolwork IMO

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby Tom Joad » Fri Sep 14, 2012 8:40 pm

chem wrote:
Hspeaksfriend wrote:How are all the 1Ls doing after the first few weeks of school? I'll be in your shoes next year 8)


Keeping up with the social life is more work then doing the schoolwork IMO

True dat.

Ready to owned in softball tomorrow, chem?




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