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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby 005618502 » Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:29 pm

Law Sauce wrote:
AssumptionRequired wrote:Looking at different lap tops. Was thinking about just buying a Dell Latitude. The base model goes for 499.99. Only thing is, it only has a 250gb hard drive and a 2gb memory. Is this enough? You can bump up both these things but then it gets into the 800 range and at that point I would just buy the bundle (Mac I think) for conveinance.

Any input would be great, was hoping to save a couple 100 bucks, but would hate for it to hurt me at all.
(oh and I get an additional 17% off the price)


If you are just talking about law school purposes. What computer you get is very close to irrelevant. All you need is a word processor with a decent keyboard that has enough memory to hold about 100 documents. So Im sure the minimum package is fine. Personally I have a macbook and so do (probably) most people. It never has issues and is overall a great computer. I'd recommending getting one, but a cheaper dell is not going to hurt you in the least.


Did you get the package through the school? Either way, would you reccomend that knowing you need to buy a comp either way?

The software for law school (that is claimed to be pre-installed on their comps) is that large? thats the only reason I was wondering about memmory and hard drive.

I have been going back and forth between Dell and Apple for a while. The only reason I was leaning towards Dell is because thats what I have at work, oh and they can be cheap. I donno lol

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby Gecko of Doom » Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:41 pm

AssumptionRequired wrote:The software for law school (that is claimed to be pre-installed on their comps) is that large? thats the only reason I was wondering about memmory and hard drive.

You don't need any software for law school other than a word processor and a web browser. Get whatever computer you would get otherwise. Don't buy one especially for law school.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby Heat » Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:31 pm

I agree with the previous poster who said that your laptop is irrelevant. The only thing that really matters that could have an impact on your grades is how comfortable you are using the keyboard because many people believe (and I am one of them) that there can be an advantage in typing more then others on many tests. As far as software you need nothing you can't get for free with the exception of Microsoft Office. That being said you can get Microsoft Office for like $20ish dollars at the bookstore. So essentially just buy the cheapest laptop that you feel won't break and has a comfortable keyboard.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby anon sequitur » Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:47 pm

Speaking of the $20 Microsoft Word, do you need a student ID to get this? I don't have Office but I'd like to start working with it over the summer.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby 5ky » Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:16 pm

anon sequitur wrote:Speaking of the $20 Microsoft Word, do you need a student ID to get this? I don't have Office but I'd like to start working with it over the summer.


Yes, you do.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby 005618502 » Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:43 am

Thanks for the replies everyone!

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby crossingforHYS » Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:17 am

bluecrab5448 wrote:
jimmythecatdied6 wrote:Doherty's reviews seem pretty good. He has eight weekly assignments though, and that may suck with OGI. Anyone care to comment on that? More generally, what are the best classes to take fall 2L?


+1. Is trial advocacy a good idea?


+1 or sports law?

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby 005618502 » Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:06 pm

Posted this in the class of 2015 thread. Curious to see what you guys think. Is this true? Are there no Friday classes? Even with all the different sections are everyones specific classes (torts) at the same time on the same days? Does this look right for the upcoming fall?
Oh, and again, no friday classes?!

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AssumptionRequired wrote:I know our first semester class schedule is just given to us, but does anyone know what time period the classes usually fall? or does it differ a lot? Are we likely to all have 8am classes, or will some be starting at 8 while others start at 10? anyone have any ideas?


Interestingly, they scheduled all 1L classes at roughly the same time this year (don't think they did this last year; I didn't notice at least).

There are some slight variations of days based on professor, but the core 1L Fall semester looks like this:

Civpro: M,T/W,R, 2:10-3:30
Contracts: MWR, 10-11:20
Crim: MW, 3:40-5:00
Torts: MTR, 8:30-9:50

LRW varies btwn 8:50, 10, and 2 start time, with 2 most common. It can be any day of the week. This is based on the class spreadsheet they sent all 2/3Ls to prep for registration. Again, there are variations to those listed, especially the days. The start times are pretty much dead on no matter what schedule you get.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby Gecko of Doom » Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:13 pm

Reasonably certain that's not accurate, unless they've changed the course schedule over the last three days. Just taking a quick glance at it, it looks like every core class has at least one section that meets on Friday. Sorry.

Edit: it does appear that they tried to schedule them all at the same time of day, though.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby 005618502 » Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:17 pm

Gecko of Doom wrote:Reasonably certain that's not accurate, unless they've changed the course schedule over the last three days. Just taking a quick glance at it, it looks like every core class has at least one section that meets on Friday. Sorry.


Dammmmmmmmit. Yeah, thats why I tried to come here. I will accept it, I guess lol

Does that mean that some sections may not have Friday classes?

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby Gecko of Doom » Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:25 pm

Again, based on a cursory look at the schedule, it appears that section B is the only section not to have class on Fridays. This is assuming (a) I read the schedule right, and (b) the schedule is accurate and will not change.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby MrSparkle » Mon Jul 02, 2012 2:58 am

With regard to the laptop issue, is it OK at UVA to take an external USB keyboard (in addition to laptop) into the exam? That would solve any keyboard problems right away.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby auburnbelle89 » Mon Jul 02, 2012 10:59 am

I posted this in the Class of 2015 forum, but I thought I would put it here so 2Ls and 3Ls could comment. I know it's pure speculation as to what class you'll end up in, but at least we can see what sections look to have strong lineups. Thoughts?

Section A
Civ Pro (w/H and I) – Collins (TRF) 2:10-3:30
Contracts – Verkerke (MWR) 10-11:20
Crim Law (w/ C and D) – Coughlin (MWF) 3:40-4:40
LWR – Buck (T) 10-11
Torts (w/I)– Duffy (MTWR) 8:30-9:30

Section B
Civ Pro (w/ J and L) – Mitchell (MWR) 2:10-3:30
Contracts – Hellman (MWR) 10-11:20
Crim Law (w/K) – Low (MTWRF) 3:40-4:40
LWR – Stewart (R) 10-11
Torts (w/E) – Abraham (MTR) 8:30-9:50

Section C
Civ Pro – Heytens (MTR) 2:10-3:30
Contracts (w/ E and G) – Mahoney (MTWRF) 10-11
Crim Law (w/A and D) – Coughlin (MWF) 3:40-4:40
LWR – Moran (W) 8:50-9:50
Torts (w/J) – White (MTR) 8:30-9:50

Section D
Civ Pro (w/K) – Nelson (TWRF) 2:10-3:30
Contracts – (w/F) Geis (MWR) 10-11:20
Crim Law (w/A and C) – Coughlin (MWF) 3:40-4:40
LWR – Moran (T) 10-11
Torts – Barzum (MTR) 8:30-9:50

Section E
Civ Pro – Rutherglen (MTR) 2:10-3:20
Contracts (w/ C and G) – Mahoney (MTWRF) 10-11
Crim Law (w/ F and J) – Harmon (MW) 3:40-5
LWR – Moran (W) 1-2
Torts (w/B) – Abraham (MTR) 8:30-9:50

Section F
Civ Pro – Sinclair (MTR) 2:10-3:30
Contracts (w/ D) – Geis (MWR) 10-11:20
Crim Law (w/ E and J) – Harmon (MW) 3:40-5
LWR – Buck (F) 10-11
Torts (w/ G and K) – Sprigman (TRF) 8:30-9:50

Section G
Civ Pro – Woolhandler (MWR) 2:10-3:30
Contracts (w/ C and E) – Mahoney (MTWRF) 10-11
Crim Law (w/ L) – Harrison (MWF) 3:40-5
LWR – Moran (T) 1-2
Torts (w/F and K) – Sprigman (TRF) 8:30-9:50

Section H
Civ Pro (w/ A and I) – Collins (TRF) 2:10-3:30
Contracts (w/I) – Johnston (MWR) 10-11:20
Crim Law – Bonnie (MWR) 3:40-4:40
LWR – Stewart (M) 8:50-9:50
Torts(w/L) – Amacost (TWF) 8:30-9:50

Section I
Civ Pro (w/ A and I) – Collins (TRF) 2:10-3:30
Contracts (w/H) – Johnston (TWF) 10-11:20
Crim Law – Bowers (MW) 3:40-5
LWR – Buck (F) 1-2
Torts (w/A) – Duffy (MTWR) 8:30-9:30

Section J
Civ Pro (w/ B and L) – Mitchell (MWR) 2:10-3:30
Contracts – Kordana (TWF) 10-11:20
Crim Law (w/ E and F) – Harmon (MW) 3:40-5
LWR – Stewart (R) 1-2
Torts (w/C) – White (MTR) 8:30-9:50

Section K
Civ Pro (w/ D) – Nelson (TWRF) 2:10-3:30
Contracts – Choi (MTR) 10-11:20
Crim Law (w/ B) – Low (MTWRF) 3:40-4:40
LWR – Stewart (M) 1-2
Torts (w/ F and G) – Sprigman (TRF) 8:30-9:50

Section L
Civ Pro (w/ B and J) Mitchell (MWR) 2:10-3:30
Contracts – Setear (MTR) 10-11:20
Crim Law (w/G) – Harrison (MWF) 3:40-5
LWR – Buck (T) 1-2
Torts (w/H) – Amacost (TWF) 8:30-9:50
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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby RVP11 » Mon Jul 02, 2012 11:11 am

Section D is stacked.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby 005618502 » Mon Jul 02, 2012 11:15 am

RVP11 wrote:Section D is stacked.

Stacked with good professors. Do the best profs usually have a more extreme curve (more As and B-s) or more likely to give out mostly B+s (I have heard some give out up to 80% B+ from you guys (this may be an exageration)

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby RVP11 » Mon Jul 02, 2012 11:31 am

AssumptionRequired wrote:
RVP11 wrote:Section D is stacked.

Stacked with good professors. Do the best profs usually have a more extreme curve (more As and B-s) or more likely to give out mostly B+s (I have heard some give out up to 80% B+ from you guys (this may be an exageration)


Yes, 80% is an exaggeration. UVA Law students exaggerate about the B+ curve all the time. The highest I've ever seen in a large, doctrinal class was something like 65%. But any prof who gives 50%+ gets a reputation for giving "80%." The only two professors on that list who have a deserved "B+ reputation" are Abraham and Kordana. They don't let Leslie teach 1Ls anymore, and O'Connell retired.

The best professors vary. Collins - easily one of the best professors - gives a narrow distribution, making it very hard to get anything better than an A- or worse than a B. Dean Mahoney, on the other hand, is known to have a flat curve.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby joemoviebuff » Mon Jul 02, 2012 11:40 am

Section F wouldn't be bad too I would think. Spriggy was great for torts and I know people loved Harman and Geis. They get out at 11 on Fridays too.

Feel bad for the sections that have Woolhandler for CivPro though.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby gladiator » Mon Jul 02, 2012 11:47 am

I think sections C, D, and I have it best.

Personally I view Collins, Coughlin, Mitchell, Mahoney, Nelson, Geis, Kordana, and Bowers as most desirable and have heard good things about Heytens and Duffy. It appears that many of the worst of the worst aren't on the list though so none of the lists are too bad.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby Law Sauce » Mon Jul 02, 2012 1:34 pm

joemoviebuff wrote:Section F wouldn't be bad too I would think. Spriggy was great for torts and I know people loved Harman and Geis. They get out at 11 on Fridays too.

Feel bad for the sections that have Woolhandler for CivPro though.


Dont hate on woolhandler. Model answers and outlines, come on

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby Law Sauce » Mon Jul 02, 2012 1:35 pm

They aren't letting J. Johnston teach Contracts to poor 1Ls anymore, wish they had done that earlier...

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby jediknight2424 » Mon Jul 02, 2012 3:11 pm

worst section?

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby Heat » Mon Jul 02, 2012 3:59 pm

Wow look at Section D.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby dixon02 » Mon Jul 02, 2012 4:06 pm

Law Sauce wrote:They aren't letting J. Johnston teach Contracts to poor 1Ls anymore, wish they had done that earlier...


Yes they are. He's teaching H+I. And why the hate? His reviews are pretty high; most people I know loved that guy.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby Gecko of Doom » Mon Jul 02, 2012 4:07 pm

Yeah, whoever gets in section D is hella lucky. Geis and Coughlin are both fantastic. Haven't had Barzun, but he was great at the speaking events I saw. And I've heard Nelson is good, too.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby joemoviebuff » Mon Jul 02, 2012 4:09 pm

dixon02 wrote:
Law Sauce wrote:They aren't letting J. Johnston teach Contracts to poor 1Ls anymore, wish they had done that earlier...


Yes they are. He's teaching H+I. And why the hate? His reviews are pretty high; most people I know loved that guy.


Well, section I says it's having Kordana with H, so somebody fucked up. But I liked Johnston a hell of a lot more than Wooly, GAH




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