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Mr. Somebody
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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby Mr. Somebody » Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:32 pm

Anyone know how much more expensive it is in both time/money to do a JD/MA?

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby Bah Welz » Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:33 pm

thesealocust wrote:MA in anything isn't going to help you get 98% of jobs. You might enjoy the program, you might have your heart set on the 2% it will help with, etc. But in reality it's just praying on the lingering belief that more degrees = more success / more opportunities that a lot of people hold. Similar to how picking a major felt like a decision of earth shattering importance at the time but turned out to matter very little in the real world (especially if your post-UG course went through law school).


This makes sense, will keep it in mind, thank you! also, thank you other poasters, very helpful = ]

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby Julio_El_Chavo » Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:22 pm

thesealocust wrote:MA in anything isn't going to help you get 98% of jobs. You might enjoy the program, you might have your heart set on the 2% it will help with, etc. But in reality it's just praying on the lingering belief that more degrees = more success / more opportunities that a lot of people hold. Similar to how picking a major felt like a decision of earth shattering importance at the time but turned out to matter very little in the real world (especially if your post-UG course went through law school).


CR. Getting an MA with your JD is like getting a bunch of fancy options (moon-roof, leather seats, etc.) with your car: it may improve your chances with 2% of women, but most people are just going to think you like wasting money.
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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby desertlaw » Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:23 pm

thesealocust wrote:MA in anything isn't going to help you get 98% of jobs. You might enjoy the program, you might have your heart set on the 2% it will help with, etc. But in reality it's just praying on the lingering belief that more degrees = more success / more opportunities that a lot of people hold. Similar to how picking a major felt like a decision of earth shattering importance at the time but turned out to matter very little in the real world (especially if your post-UG course went through law school).


This is what I wanted to say, but didn't have the guts to do so. I am so far from becoming the next Sealocust.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby chem » Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:46 pm

How do IP people do out of UVA? Any significant boost? Im shooting for patent prosecution with a ChemE/biochem/chemistry. Would I still be looking good around median? below median? Anecdotal evidence is fine

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby Julio_El_Chavo » Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:57 pm

chem wrote:How do IP people do out of UVA? Any significant boost? Im shooting for patent prosecution with a ChemE/biochem/chemistry. Would I still be looking good around median? below median? Anecdotal evidence is fine


Everyone I know at UVA who wanted to do IP (which is only like 4 people) got biglaw.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby thesealocust » Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:23 pm

Everyone I know at UVA who wanted to do IP [FN1] (more than 4 people in my case) got biglaw.

[FN1] and had a relevant technical background // work experience

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby chem » Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:37 pm

thesealocust wrote:Everyone I know at UVA who wanted to do IP [FN1] (more than 4 people in my case) got biglaw.

[FN1] and had a relevant technical background // work experience


I have a relevant tech background, and am able to consult for an engineering firm in my free time. However, I will be a k-JD'er. I know that will hurt, but will it hurt significantly?

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby Morgan12Oak » Sun Apr 29, 2012 2:17 pm

Admin was a bad choice...

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby dailygrind » Sun Apr 29, 2012 2:22 pm

Morgan12Oak wrote:Admin was a bad choice...


In the beginning, god said: let there be deference in the face of congressional ambiguity. And it was so.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby jawsthegreat » Sun Apr 29, 2012 2:45 pm

Just how badly would I need to fuck up to get a C+?

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby Morgan12Oak » Sun Apr 29, 2012 2:53 pm

jawsthegreat wrote:Just how badly would I need to fuck up to get a C+?


Depends on the class, but generally, very badly.

PSA: don't do what this guy did: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=183660

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby Doritos » Sun Apr 29, 2012 4:52 pm

Morgan12Oak wrote:
jawsthegreat wrote:Just how badly would I need to fuck up to get a C+?


Depends on the class, but generally, very badly.

PSA: don't do what this guy did: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=183660


Oh me oh my. That thread is just ridiculous. I hope they kick that dude out of school.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby desertlaw » Sun Apr 29, 2012 5:06 pm

Doritos wrote:
Morgan12Oak wrote:
jawsthegreat wrote:Just how badly would I need to fuck up to get a C+?


Depends on the class, but generally, very badly.

PSA: don't do what this guy did: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 3&t=183660


Oh me oh my. That thread is just ridiculous. I hope they kick that dude out of school.



That guy would be plenty happy with a C+. I wonder if the mods would reveal to the school/authorities who it was.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby dailygrind » Sun Apr 29, 2012 5:30 pm

desertlaw wrote:
Doritos wrote:
Morgan12Oak wrote:
jawsthegreat wrote:Just how badly would I need to fuck up to get a C+?


Depends on the class, but generally, very badly.

PSA: don't do what this guy did: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=183660


Oh me oh my. That thread is just ridiculous. I hope they kick that dude out of school.



That guy would be plenty happy with a C+. I wonder if the mods would reveal to the school/authorities who it was.


No comment. Please god, though, no one at UVA be stupid enough to do this, as it would put me in a very uncomfortable spot.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby Julio_El_Chavo » Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:03 pm

I just assume that there is a shitload of cheating that goes on at UVA because I pwnd everyone during 1L exams that we all had to take at the same time but haven't done nearly as well on flex exams. BTW, I'm a graduating 3L and some of this might have to do with the fact that I haven't given a shit since 1L.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby dailygrind » Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:06 pm

My grades have slipped between 1L and 2L, but I'm more inclined to blame that on my level of preparation. I did well in my 1L electives as compared to my 1L core classes.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby RVP11 » Sun Apr 29, 2012 9:22 pm

I also slipped drastically from 1L to 3L. Over .1 in slippage, actually. But I don't think that's uncommon.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby desertlaw » Sun Apr 29, 2012 9:45 pm

RVP11 wrote:I also slipped drastically from 1L to 3L. Over .1 in slippage, actually. But I don't think that's uncommon.


After looking at my Excel spreadsheet of possible outcomes after 2L, my range is like .09 to .17 slippage.

Either way, I need to do great work this summer. So I'm not sure it matters either way.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby berkeleykel06 » Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:19 pm

RVP11 wrote:I also slipped drastically from 1L to 3L. Over .1 in slippage, actually. But I don't think that's uncommon.


If that's considered drastic then I'm completely fucked. I hope a .1 slip isn't what people have in mind when they say that GPA drops don't matter for offers.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby RVP11 » Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:20 pm

berkeleykel06 wrote:
RVP11 wrote:I also slipped drastically from 1L to 3L. Over .1 in slippage, actually. But I don't think that's uncommon.


If that's considered drastic then I'm completely fucked. I hope a .1 slip isn't what people have in mind when they say that GPA drops don't matter for offers.


GPA drops don't matter for offers.

Most firms don't ask. The firms that do probably aren't looking. The firms that look are probably just looking for failing grades.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby Morgan12Oak » Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:21 pm

Yeuh I'm looking at like a .20 + drop assuming I do equally bad this semester.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby jawsthegreat » Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:59 pm

How high were y'alls grades after 1L, really high grades could contribute to that?

Do you guys contribute it to just general apathy?

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby jawsthegreat » Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:00 pm

jawsthegreat wrote:How high were y'alls grades after 1L, really high grades could contribute to that?

Do you guys contribute it to just general apathy?


I ask, because I'm wondering if my not doing shit is going to finally catch up to me.

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Re: UVA Law Students Taking Questions

Postby Julio_El_Chavo » Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:27 pm

jawsthegreat wrote:How high were y'alls grades after 1L, really high grades could contribute to that?

Do you guys contribute it to just general apathy?


I think part of it was the fact that 35% of the class of 2011 was unemployed when they were in all of my 2L classes. They were gunning like hell for high grades. Class of 2012 probably isn't trying as hard.




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