Morgan12Oak wrote:Is it crazy to maybe guess that people will wise up this year and bid NYC much harder compared to DC than in the past? Or is the DC heavy bidding going to occur regardless?
I wonder if there becomes a point where the economy improves enough to pass a threshold where it no longer makes sense to bid conservatively (thinking NYC vs. DC) given the increased competition in NYC and maybe larger summer classes b/c of the economy.
This is impossible. The difference in selectivity between NYC and DC is not a result of NYC being unpopular. Quite the opposite - more people are probably interested in pursuing work in NYC than in DC across top law schools. The difference is that NYC has (1) substantially more law firms, (2) each of which hire substantially more summer associates.
I can actually list off the top of my head every DC firm that will hire a summer class of dozens. Covington usually hires something like 60-80, then WilmerHale, Hogan, and Arnold & Porter are likely to hire somewhere from 30-50. Every single other law firm in DC is likely hiring 20 or fewer, and usually the latter.
In NYC, I don't think I could successfully count all of the firms who hire 70-80+ summer associates every summer. You've got a dozen or so NYC based firms that routinely hire 80++ summer associates, then dozens of firms which are either slightly smaller or slightly smaller offices of firms with HQs in other locations that are still hiring 20++ summers.
Anyway, the reason it's easier to get hired at a firm in NYC than DC, all else being equal, is structural and mathematical in a way that UVA student bidding choices could never meaningfully impact. Washington DC law firms face enormous demand compared to the constrained supply of summer positions they have to offer, while NYC law firms face enormous demand for a comparatively huge supply of summer positions. Obviously you still have to be doing pretty well at a great law school to get a big firm job in NYC, but as long as the big firm dynamic across the country is so biased towards NYC, those jobs will be more bountiful and thus easier to secure.