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Re: UVA 2L taking questions

Postby Law Sauce » Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:56 am

Traveller wrote:Hey ya'll, I was wondering if I could get some advice on an LSAT score needed to get into UVA. I didn't want to post a new thread on What are My Chances since I don't actually have an LSAT score, but figured you guys might be willing to help/share experiences. I have a 3.6 at solid SEC school (not vandy though haha) and I anticipate applying to ls with a 3.7. Can anyone give me an LSAT estimate that I need to work at/hope for? Sorry if this is unwelcome here, I just didnt want to get bombarded for starting a thread on the chance me forum without an LSAT. Thanks

edit. btw I am way early, I'm finishing up my soph. year so I have a whole year before thinking of applying, I'm just seeing how much prep I'm going to need to put into the LSAT.


The question doesn't really matter, because you need to prep as much as you possibly can anyway. Work though some books take a lot of practice exams. Work as hard as you can and don't think about the results until the time comes. Admissions is a crap shoot at any of the top schools so you need to be in as good a position as possible. That being said, your chance would be good with a 170 through RD, with an ED your would still have a good shot with a 169. Definitely consider EDing if you are set on uva. But don't think about that at all yet, because you still have a lot of college to finish, resume to build, and prep for lsat to do. Good luck with school.

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Re: UVA 2L taking questions

Postby vamedic03 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 10:11 am

Traveller wrote:Hey ya'll, I was wondering if I could get some advice on an LSAT score needed to get into UVA. I didn't want to post a new thread on What are My Chances since I don't actually have an LSAT score, but figured you guys might be willing to help/share experiences. I have a 3.6 at solid SEC school (not vandy though haha) and I anticipate applying to ls with a 3.7. Can anyone give me an LSAT estimate that I need to work at/hope for? Sorry if this is unwelcome here, I just didnt want to get bombarded for starting a thread on the chance me forum without an LSAT. Thanks

edit. btw I am way early, I'm finishing up my soph. year so I have a whole year before thinking of applying, I'm just seeing how much prep I'm going to need to put into the LSAT.


http://www.law.virginia.edu/html/prospe ... ctives.htm

Median GPA: 3.85; Median LSAT: 170

You have a below median GPA, so you need an above median LSAT.

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Re: UVA 2L taking questions

Postby 005618502 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 11:59 am

Traveller wrote:Hey ya'll, I was wondering if I could get some advice on an LSAT score needed to get into UVA. I didn't want to post a new thread on What are My Chances since I don't actually have an LSAT score, but figured you guys might be willing to help/share experiences. I have a 3.6 at solid SEC school (not vandy though haha) and I anticipate applying to ls with a 3.7. Can anyone give me an LSAT estimate that I need to work at/hope for? Sorry if this is unwelcome here, I just didnt want to get bombarded for starting a thread on the chance me forum without an LSAT. Thanks

edit. btw I am way early, I'm finishing up my soph. year so I have a whole year before thinking of applying, I'm just seeing how much prep I'm going to need to put into the LSAT.


Why would you need to know this? shouldnt you be shooting for the best score possible?

Either way you need one number above median. So with your relatively (to UVA) low GPA you need a 170 or better to have a chance (Even with an ED i think).

Shoot for a 180, and come back when you have a score

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Re: UVA 2L taking questions

Postby Traveller » Thu Apr 28, 2011 1:52 pm

I really appreciate the help guys. I've looked on law school numbers and predictor, I was just trying to get an estimate from people who got in/applied/are appling. I do plan on prepping a lot for the LSAT a ton (hence me asking this so damn early haha) I just kinda wanted to have some kind of minimum target to work for. I unfortunately discovered TLS about a year early so it has me semi-freaking out when I should be enjoying the spring weather. I'll end my hijacking of this thread now ha.

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Re: UVA 2L taking questions

Postby bluecrab5448 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 3:39 pm

Hello! I'm trying to get a UVa Digital Certificate so I don't have to generate a new password every time I log into SIS, but I don't know what the password for a Blue, Home Directory, CMS, or HSC Exchange account refers to (it's required for the certificate). Can anyone help?

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Re: UVA 2L taking questions

Postby bluecrab5448 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 3:43 pm

Sorry, one clarification: I'm referring to the SIS/Netbadge password.

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Re: UVA 2L taking questions

Postby vamedic03 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 3:56 pm

bluecrab5448 wrote:Sorry, one clarification: I'm referring to the SIS/Netbadge password.


Call UVA ITC help desk - 434-924-4357

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Re: UVA 2L taking questions

Postby grash » Thu Apr 28, 2011 5:26 pm

Traveller wrote:Hey ya'll, I was wondering if I could get some advice on an LSAT score needed to get into UVA. I didn't want to post a new thread on What are My Chances since I don't actually have an LSAT score, but figured you guys might be willing to help/share experiences. I have a 3.6 at solid SEC school (not vandy though haha) and I anticipate applying to ls with a 3.7. Can anyone give me an LSAT estimate that I need to work at/hope for? Sorry if this is unwelcome here, I just didnt want to get bombarded for starting a thread on the chance me forum without an LSAT. Thanks

edit. btw I am way early, I'm finishing up my soph. year so I have a whole year before thinking of applying, I'm just seeing how much prep I'm going to need to put into the LSAT.


I'm gonna separate from the pack and say all you need is a 170. If you get a score below that, you can bet your ass that you're not getting in absent some exceptional circumstances. But if you have a 170 LSAT, your index (combined score from LSAT and GPA which is used as a proxy for 1L performance) is going to be higher than a LOT of splitters who squeaked in with horrendous GPA's and an LSAT slightly above median (not hating on the splitters - I'm one myself). The "one number below/one number above" theory seems kinda odd to me. It almost seems to imply that the average student here has a 170 3.85, which I guarantee you is not the case (nor do the medians reflect the average student at probably any other school except perhaps YS).

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Re: UVA 2L taking questions

Postby sundance95 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 5:27 pm

grash wrote:The "one number below/one number above" theory seems kinda odd to me. It almost seems to imply that the average student here has a 170 3.85, which I guarantee you is not the case (nor do the medians reflect the average student at probably any other school except perhaps YS).

Except it doesn't imply that at all, which you explain immediately afterwards...so, what?

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Re: UVA 2L taking questions

Postby vamedic03 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 5:45 pm

grash wrote:
Traveller wrote:Hey ya'll, I was wondering if I could get some advice on an LSAT score needed to get into UVA. I didn't want to post a new thread on What are My Chances since I don't actually have an LSAT score, but figured you guys might be willing to help/share experiences. I have a 3.6 at solid SEC school (not vandy though haha) and I anticipate applying to ls with a 3.7. Can anyone give me an LSAT estimate that I need to work at/hope for? Sorry if this is unwelcome here, I just didnt want to get bombarded for starting a thread on the chance me forum without an LSAT. Thanks

edit. btw I am way early, I'm finishing up my soph. year so I have a whole year before thinking of applying, I'm just seeing how much prep I'm going to need to put into the LSAT.


I'm gonna separate from the pack and say all you need is a 170. If you get a score below that, you can bet your ass that you're not getting in absent some exceptional circumstances. But if you have a 170 LSAT, your index (combined score from LSAT and GPA which is used as a proxy for 1L performance) is going to be higher than a LOT of splitters who squeaked in with horrendous GPA's and an LSAT slightly above median (not hating on the splitters - I'm one myself). The "one number below/one number above" theory seems kinda odd to me. It almost seems to imply that the average student here has a 170 3.85, which I guarantee you is not the case (nor do the medians reflect the average student at probably any other school except perhaps YS).


Huh? That implication is true.

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Re: UVA 2L taking questions

Postby grash » Thu Apr 28, 2011 6:51 pm

vamedic03 wrote:
grash wrote:
Traveller wrote:Hey ya'll, I was wondering if I could get some advice on an LSAT score needed to get into UVA. I didn't want to post a new thread on What are My Chances since I don't actually have an LSAT score, but figured you guys might be willing to help/share experiences. I have a 3.6 at solid SEC school (not vandy though haha) and I anticipate applying to ls with a 3.7. Can anyone give me an LSAT estimate that I need to work at/hope for? Sorry if this is unwelcome here, I just didnt want to get bombarded for starting a thread on the chance me forum without an LSAT. Thanks

edit. btw I am way early, I'm finishing up my soph. year so I have a whole year before thinking of applying, I'm just seeing how much prep I'm going to need to put into the LSAT.


I'm gonna separate from the pack and say all you need is a 170. If you get a score below that, you can bet your ass that you're not getting in absent some exceptional circumstances. But if you have a 170 LSAT, your index (combined score from LSAT and GPA which is used as a proxy for 1L performance) is going to be higher than a LOT of splitters who squeaked in with horrendous GPA's and an LSAT slightly above median (not hating on the splitters - I'm one myself). The "one number below/one number above" theory seems kinda odd to me. It almost seems to imply that the average student here has a 170 3.85, which I guarantee you is not the case (nor do the medians reflect the average student at probably any other school except perhaps YS).


Huh? That implication is true.


Nah. Like most other schools, we game the rankings. Consider a school who has students who are:

170, 3.85
171, 3.0
171, 3.0
171, 3.0
165, 3.9
165, 3.9
165, 3.9

this school has our medians. But the average student isn't a 170, 3.85; in fact, a 170, 3.85 is the most numerically accomplished student in the bunch. Of course, this is a very extreme example, but the fact remains that to some degree or another UVA (and pretty much every single other school) engages in this sort of median manipulation (can be confirmed via LSN - I confirmed it back when I was applying but I'm too indifferent to prove it using current data). A student who sits exactly at the school medians is unlikely to be representative of the average student - he is actually probably going to be one of the most numerically accomplished students in the school. This breaks down at the higher end where schools don't really care about manipulating their medians (Y and S come to mind, though I may be missing others), but I'm sure it's the case at UVA, as it probably is with all the schools in our peer group.

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Re: UVA 2L taking questions

Postby Cavalier » Thu Apr 28, 2011 8:44 pm

Nerd alert!

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Re: UVA 2L taking questions

Postby Apple Tree » Fri Apr 29, 2011 12:47 pm

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Re: UVA 2L taking questions

Postby 005618502 » Mon May 02, 2011 9:48 pm

If you submit the FAFSA late (think last week) is it likely to hurt you? or will it not make a difference?

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Re: UVA 2L taking questions

Postby paulinaporizkova » Mon May 02, 2011 9:51 pm

AssumptionRequired wrote:If you submit the FAFSA late (think last week) is it likely to hurt you? or will it not make a difference?

spoiler alert: your magic number will be 70,400....in government approved loans

:)

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Re: UVA 2L taking questions

Postby 005618502 » Mon May 02, 2011 10:18 pm

paulinaporizkova wrote:
AssumptionRequired wrote:If you submit the FAFSA late (think last week) is it likely to hurt you? or will it not make a difference?

spoiler alert: your magic number will be 70,400....in government approved loans

:)


Seriously? for everyone? or is this because i submitted after the deadline?

Even if you have an EFC of 00000 you get no grants?

How can this be the case? "If Virginia Law can be said to blow away its competition in one regard, it is here. Average graduate debt for those who got their JD in 2008 was an impressively low $76,150."

If they do not give need based aid....

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Re: UVA 2L taking questions

Postby Kohinoor » Mon May 02, 2011 11:07 pm

AssumptionRequired wrote:
paulinaporizkova wrote:
AssumptionRequired wrote:If you submit the FAFSA late (think last week) is it likely to hurt you? or will it not make a difference?

spoiler alert: your magic number will be 70,400....in government approved loans

:)


Seriously? for everyone? or is this because i submitted after the deadline?

Even if you have an EFC of 00000 you get no grants?

How can this be the case? "If Virginia Law can be said to blow away its competition in one regard, it is here. Average graduate debt for those who got their JD in 2008 was an impressively low $76,150."

If they do not give need based aid....
Merit-based loans with full rides, half-rides, and people paying as they go skewing the average graduate debt. You could have more than half of the class paying sticker and hit that number.

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Re: UVA 2L taking questions

Postby 005618502 » Mon May 02, 2011 11:16 pm

Kohinoor wrote:
AssumptionRequired wrote:
paulinaporizkova wrote:
AssumptionRequired wrote:If you submit the FAFSA late (think last week) is it likely to hurt you? or will it not make a difference?

spoiler alert: your magic number will be 70,400....in government approved loans

:)


Seriously? for everyone? or is this because i submitted after the deadline?

Even if you have an EFC of 00000 you get no grants?

How can this be the case? "If Virginia Law can be said to blow away its competition in one regard, it is here. Average graduate debt for those who got their JD in 2008 was an impressively low $76,150."

If they do not give need based aid....
Merit-based loans with full rides, half-rides, and people paying as they go skewing the average graduate debt. You could have more than half of the class paying sticker and hit that number.


So they really dont give need based aid besides loans? Thats very interesting to hear because the financial aid office said differently. Which I guess I can understand why

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Re: UVA 2L taking questions

Postby Kohinoor » Tue May 03, 2011 2:44 am

AssumptionRequired wrote:
So they really dont give need based aid besides loans? Thats very interesting to hear because the financial aid office said differently. Which I guess I can understand why
I misspoke like a moron. They give merit-based scholarships/grants not merit-based loans. I apologize if that confused you. Need-based loans.

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Re: UVA 2L taking questions

Postby vanwinkle » Tue May 03, 2011 8:31 am

Need-based aid is typically loans.

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Re: UVA 2L taking questions

Postby crossingforHYS » Wed May 04, 2011 11:33 pm

if you were accepted off the waitlist and looking for apartments a bit late, where would you recommend to look? and how do you get info about financial aid etc.???

Thank you for your help!

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Re: UVA 2L taking questions

Postby East Coast Law » Thu May 05, 2011 7:53 am

I'm visiting campus this weekend (from NYC) and - although I'm sure this has been answered somewhere in the last 123 pages - was wondering if any current students have any suggestions on what to see, where to stay and eat, what apartment complexes to look at (are there any complexes that are more popular among law students?) or any other general local information; Any advice would be greatly appreciated!! Really looking forward to my first visit :)

(I posted this on the 2014 forum already, so sorry for being obnoxious and redundant, but i've never been to Charlottesville or VA and am hoping that some current students might have more suggestions)

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Re: UVA 2L taking questions

Postby WVUCelticFan » Thu May 05, 2011 8:39 am

This may have been asked before as well, but do any current students know if it is possible to purchase heavily discounted software (Office, possibly 7) through UVA?

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Re: UVA 2L taking questions

Postby Cavalier » Thu May 05, 2011 9:06 am

WVUCelticFan wrote:This may have been asked before as well, but do any current students know if it is possible to purchase heavily discounted software (Office, possibly 7) through UVA?

Yes; Office is $10 at the bookstore, and Windows 7 is also $10 but it's only an upgrade disk (so if you have Vista on your computer or a Vista disk, you'll be fine)

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Re: UVA 2L taking questions

Postby WVUCelticFan » Thu May 05, 2011 10:03 am

Cavalier wrote:
WVUCelticFan wrote:This may have been asked before as well, but do any current students know if it is possible to purchase heavily discounted software (Office, possibly 7) through UVA?

Yes; Office is $10 at the bookstore, and Windows 7 is also $10 but it's only an upgrade disk (so if you have Vista on your computer or a Vista disk, you'll be fine)


Thanks, that's good to know about Office. I didn't want to spend 100+ on it. I'm a committed Mac guy but had thought about setting up bootcamp. Doubt I can do that with the upgrade disk though.




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