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Re: UVA 1L taking questions

Postby vanwinkle » Mon Jan 04, 2010 3:02 pm

CE2JD wrote:
vanwinkle wrote:
CE2JD wrote:You lose vanwinklehoser.


With your ability to churn out 10,000-word answers, I expect you will do very well and end up 26th in our class.


:roll:

I'll still make LR because of my albino-african-lesbian-disabled-jewish-muslim background.

LR diversity statements FTW.


LR takes diversity statements?

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Re: UVA 1L taking questions

Postby Kohinoor » Mon Jan 04, 2010 3:05 pm

vanwinkle wrote:
CE2JD wrote:
vanwinkle wrote:
CE2JD wrote:You lose vanwinklehoser.


With your ability to churn out 10,000-word answers, I expect you will do very well and end up 26th in our class.


:roll:

I'll still make LR because of my albino-african-lesbian-disabled-jewish-muslim background.

LR diversity statements FTW.


LR takes diversity statements?

I was under the impression that you just check a box.

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Re: UVA 1L taking questions

Postby CE2JD » Mon Jan 04, 2010 3:13 pm

The Law Review may invite as many as five second-year students to join based on a combination of three factors: (1) first-year grades, (2) performance in the Unified Journal Tryout, and (3) a personal statement. To be considered for membership on this basis, a student must rank in the top third of the first-year class, score among the top third of journal tryouts, and submit a personal statement. The personal statement should address how the applicant's attributes and experiences would benefit the Law Review or otherwise contribute to the diversity of the Editorial Board. Aspects of diversity are not limited to racial, ethnic, or religious background; sex; sexual orientation; disability; or other physical characteristics, though these traits may be addressed in the personal statement.


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Re: UVA 1L taking questions

Postby vanwinkle » Mon Jan 04, 2010 3:16 pm

CE2JD wrote:
The Law Review may invite as many as five second-year students to join based on a combination of three factors: (1) first-year grades, (2) performance in the Unified Journal Tryout, and (3) a personal statement. To be considered for membership on this basis, a student must rank in the top third of the first-year class, score among the top third of journal tryouts, and submit a personal statement. The personal statement should address how the applicant's attributes and experiences would benefit the Law Review or otherwise contribute to the diversity of the Editorial Board. Aspects of diversity are not limited to racial, ethnic, or religious background; sex; sexual orientation; disability; or other physical characteristics, though these traits may be addressed in the personal statement.


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I love how thoroughly you have researched this.

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Re: UVA 1L taking questions

Postby CE2JD » Mon Jan 04, 2010 3:17 pm

vanwinkle wrote:
CE2JD wrote:
The Law Review may invite as many as five second-year students to join based on a combination of three factors: (1) first-year grades, (2) performance in the Unified Journal Tryout, and (3) a personal statement. To be considered for membership on this basis, a student must rank in the top third of the first-year class, score among the top third of journal tryouts, and submit a personal statement. The personal statement should address how the applicant's attributes and experiences would benefit the Law Review or otherwise contribute to the diversity of the Editorial Board. Aspects of diversity are not limited to racial, ethnic, or religious background; sex; sexual orientation; disability; or other physical characteristics, though these traits may be addressed in the personal statement.


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I love how thoroughly you have researched this.


:wink:

Not all of us can count on awesome writing abilities from undergrad to get onto LR via grading on.

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Re: UVA 1L taking questions

Postby vanwinkle » Mon Jan 04, 2010 3:23 pm

CE2JD wrote:Not all of us can count on awesome writing abilities from undergrad to get onto LR via grading on.


Somewhere out there, a professor is reading a 25-page essay I wrote, laughing at how I spent 3,000 words poetically describing what the word "negligence" means because I didn't know what the hell he was asking me, and giving me a B-.

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Re: UVA 1L taking questions

Postby thesealocust » Mon Jan 04, 2010 3:30 pm

This is why we can't have nice things, UVA c/o 2012 :(

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Re: UVA 1L taking questions

Postby vanwinkle » Mon Jan 04, 2010 3:34 pm

I love how this discussion is taking place in the thread for UVA 1Ls to answer people's questions. I didn't expect we'd be answering questions from each other so much.

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Re: UVA 1L taking questions

Postby Cavalier » Mon Jan 04, 2010 3:40 pm

thesealocust wrote:This is why we can't have nice things, UVA c/o 2012 :(

What were your grades?

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Re: UVA 1L taking questions

Postby thesealocust » Mon Jan 04, 2010 3:45 pm

Cavalier wrote:
thesealocust wrote:This is why we can't have nice things, UVA c/o 2012 :(

What were your grades?


:lol:

Have you finished your outlines yet?

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Re: UVA 1L taking questions

Postby vanwinkle » Mon Jan 04, 2010 3:53 pm

thesealocust wrote:Have you finished your outlines yet?


This almost made me spit out Diet Coke on my laptop.

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Re: UVA 1L taking questions

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Re: UVA 1L taking questions

Postby Cavalier » Mon Jan 04, 2010 5:29 pm

thesealocust wrote:
Cavalier wrote:
thesealocust wrote:This is why we can't have nice things, UVA c/o 2012 :(

What were your grades?


:lol:

Have you finished your outlines yet?

Have you finished your outlines yet?

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Re: UVA 1L taking questions

Postby thesealocust » Mon Jan 04, 2010 5:33 pm

Cavalier wrote:
thesealocust wrote:
Cavalier wrote:
thesealocust wrote:This is why we can't have nice things, UVA c/o 2012 :(

What were your grades?


:lol:

Have you finished your outlines yet?

Have you finished your outlines yet?


Permission to buzz the tower *brandishes civ pro book*

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Re: UVA 1L taking questions

Postby kurama20 » Mon Jan 04, 2010 5:34 pm

CE2JD wrote:
The Law Review may invite as many as five second-year students to join based on a combination of three factors: (1) first-year grades, (2) performance in the Unified Journal Tryout, and (3) a personal statement. To be considered for membership on this basis, a student must rank in the top third of the first-year class, score among the top third of journal tryouts, and submit a personal statement. The personal statement should address how the applicant's attributes and experiences would benefit the Law Review or otherwise contribute to the diversity of the Editorial Board. Aspects of diversity are not limited to racial, ethnic, or religious background; sex; sexual orientation; disability; or other physical characteristics, though these traits may be addressed in the personal statement.


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From what I've been told though, this hasn't really put any URMs on LR for some time. By the way, although I'm sure it's still tough, can't you just note on to the law review? Wouldn't that in theory be a lot less stressful than grading on or writing on?

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Re: UVA 1L taking questions

Postby thesealocust » Mon Jan 04, 2010 5:37 pm

kurama20 wrote:From what I've been told though, this hasn't really put any URMs on LR for some time. By the way, although I'm sure it's still tough, can't you just note on to the law review? Wouldn't that in theory be a lot less stressful than grading on or writing on?


I mean really, what could possibly be so hard about writing a scholarly article and then getting it published? Kids in my high school used to write notes that were published in law review all the time, it was no big deal.

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Re: UVA 1L taking questions

Postby kurama20 » Mon Jan 04, 2010 5:38 pm

thesealocust wrote:
kurama20 wrote:From what I've been told though, this hasn't really put any URMs on LR for some time. By the way, although I'm sure it's still tough, can't you just note on to the law review? Wouldn't that in theory be a lot less stressful than grading on or writing on?


I mean really, what could possibly be so hard about writing a scholarly article and then getting it published? Kids in my high school used to write notes that were published in law review all the time, it was no big deal.


Apparently you missed that tough and stressful have two different definitions.

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Re: UVA 1L taking questions

Postby vanwinkle » Mon Jan 04, 2010 5:41 pm

kurama20 wrote:
thesealocust wrote:
kurama20 wrote:From what I've been told though, this hasn't really put any URMs on LR for some time. By the way, although I'm sure it's still tough, can't you just note on to the law review? Wouldn't that in theory be a lot less stressful than grading on or writing on?


I mean really, what could possibly be so hard about writing a scholarly article and then getting it published? Kids in my high school used to write notes that were published in law review all the time, it was no big deal.


Apparently you missed that tough and stressful have two different definitions.


It's no less stressful because it's just as competitive, which is also why it's just as tough.

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Re: UVA 1L taking questions

Postby kurama20 » Mon Jan 04, 2010 5:46 pm

vanwinkle wrote:
kurama20 wrote:
thesealocust wrote:
kurama20 wrote:From what I've been told though, this hasn't really put any URMs on LR for some time. By the way, although I'm sure it's still tough, can't you just note on to the law review? Wouldn't that in theory be a lot less stressful than grading on or writing on?


I mean really, what could possibly be so hard about writing a scholarly article and then getting it published? Kids in my high school used to write notes that were published in law review all the time, it was no big deal.


Apparently you missed that tough and stressful have two different definitions.


It's no less stressful because it's just as competitive, which is also why it's just as tough.


Yeah but I was told that if you do it that way you don't have to do the write on competition that is actually right after finals--meaning some serious burnout. Not having to deal with that has to lessen the stress level somewhat. Also I was told that you can "note on" after 1L, whereas with the write on you have to do it as a 1L. There obviously both really hard, but you don't have to face that condensed time commitment that the write on requires.

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Re: UVA 1L taking questions

Postby thesealocust » Mon Jan 04, 2010 5:50 pm

kurama20 wrote:Yeah but I was told that if you do it that way you don't have to do the write on competition that is actually right after finals--meaning some serious burnout. Not having to deal with that has to lessen the stress level somewhat. Also I was told that you can "note on" after 1L, whereas with the write on you have to do it as a 1L. There obviously both really hard, but you don't have to face that condensed time commitment that the write on requires.


wtf?

1) The writing competition is in late February and/or early march
2) The way the 'note on' process works, you can do it any time you want to. That being said, the odds of a 1L coming up with a topic, writing a paper, getting it edited, submitting it, having it reviewed, and being selected for publication before February are close enough to 0 that I think it's fair to just call it impossible.
3) Keep in mind that people on law review have to write/submit a note, which means that the competition for being published already includes every member of law review.

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Re: UVA 1L taking questions

Postby kurama20 » Mon Jan 04, 2010 5:52 pm

thesealocust wrote:
kurama20 wrote:Yeah but I was told that if you do it that way you don't have to do the write on competition that is actually right after finals--meaning some serious burnout. Not having to deal with that has to lessen the stress level somewhat. Also I was told that you can "note on" after 1L, whereas with the write on you have to do it as a 1L. There obviously both really hard, but you don't have to face that condensed time commitment that the write on requires.


wtf?

1) The writing competition is in late February and/or early march
2) The way the 'note on' process works, you can do it any time you want to. That being said, the odds of a 1L coming up with a topic, writing a paper, getting it edited, submitting it, having it reviewed, and being selected for publication before February are close enough to 0 that I think it's fair to just call it impossible.
3) Keep in mind that people on law review have to write/submit a note, which means that the competition for being published already includes every member of law review.


WTF?

1. Thats even WORSE. That's actually while you are still studying for your 1L classes and exams. That's incredibly stressful and a huge extra burden. 2Ls and 3Ls told me that that's one of the main reasons why many people in the past didn't even attempt the write on comp.
2. That was my exact point. You aren't forced into doing it 1L year, you have more than a damn week to do it.
3. Never disagreed that it was tough, but the nature of the time frame makes it somewhat less stressful.

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Re: UVA 1L taking questions

Postby sting » Mon Jan 04, 2010 6:16 pm

kurama20 wrote:1. Thats even WORSE. That's actually while you are still studying for your 1L classes and exams. That's incredibly stressful and a huge extra burden. 2Ls and 3Ls told me that that's one of the main reasons why many people in the past didn't even attempt the write on comp.


One of the journal tryout weekends is over spring break. Being worried about classes really isn't the problem. It's that you have to spend an entire weekend reading 300 pages of incredibly boring material and then writing a 10 page paper on a topic you couldn't care less about. Journal tryouts are terrible . . . almost as bad as actually being on a journal.

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Re: UVA 1L taking questions

Postby napolnic » Mon Jan 04, 2010 7:28 pm

YCrevolution wrote:
vanwinkle wrote:
thesealocust wrote:Have you finished your outlines yet?


This almost made me spit out Diet Coke on my laptop.

Why? Haven't you done your outlines yet?

On an unrelated note, casebooks are too damn expensive.


Here's a question: where do we find casebook lists for our classes?

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Re: UVA 1L taking questions

Postby vanwinkle » Mon Jan 04, 2010 7:55 pm

napolnic wrote:Here's a question: where do we find casebook lists for our classes?


If you go to the bookstore, they have everything laid out by section, you can just look in the grouping of books for a subject (like, Property) and find the one the says it's for your section. I don't know where to look online.

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Re: UVA 1L taking questions

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