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Re: UVA 2L taking questions

Postby Hiei » Fri Jun 18, 2010 5:46 pm

howcani111 wrote:how do you prepare for a job now? I feel sooo off track.


You misinterpreted what I was saying. I'm not really "doing" anything, I just have some connections that I'm working to help secure a job for 1L summer. I was given some advice by a Duke law grad that even at a school like UVA working connections is the best way to help land a 1L summer firm job. Good luck!

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Re: UVA 2L taking questions

Postby FeuerFrei » Mon Jun 21, 2010 2:34 pm

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Re: UVA 2L taking questions

Postby Kohinoor » Mon Jun 21, 2010 2:41 pm

FeuerFrei wrote:When calculating 1L class rank, do UVA/employers include or exclude second semester electives?

Really?

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Re: UVA 2L taking questions

Postby FeuerFrei » Mon Jun 21, 2010 2:58 pm

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Re: UVA 2L taking questions

Postby Kohinoor » Mon Jun 21, 2010 2:59 pm

FeuerFrei wrote:
Kohinoor wrote:
FeuerFrei wrote:When calculating 1L class rank, do UVA/employers include or exclude second semester electives?

Really?


I guess not :oops:

They include them. I just thought it was an odd question because I've never entertained the proposition of second semester electives not being calculated.

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Re: UVA 2L taking questions

Postby FeuerFrei » Mon Jun 21, 2010 3:49 pm

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Re: UVA 2L taking questions

Postby Cavalier » Mon Jun 21, 2010 4:00 pm

FeuerFrei wrote:Well I had just thought with things like calculating the top 25 GPAs for LR, they may only want to take the classes everyone had in common to level the field.

Given that every class is curved, you can't really gain an unfair advantage through clever elective selection. If you're trying to grade on to law review there are classes you should avoid taking, like federal courts and seminars with a guaranteed B+ grade, but assuming you take ordinary courses, the playing field is already level.

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Re: UVA 2L taking questions

Postby FeuerFrei » Mon Jun 21, 2010 4:13 pm

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Re: UVA 2L taking questions

Postby Kohinoor » Mon Jun 21, 2010 4:20 pm

FeuerFrei wrote:Well I had just thought with things like calculating the top 25 GPAs for LR, they may only want to take the classes everyone had in common to level the field.

Interesting idea but I'm not sure why they would do that to level the field when the field is already skewed by the composition of small sections and the grading curves of individual profs. If leveling the field was even remotely a concern of theirs, law school grading would be altered to the point of being unrecognizable.

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Re: UVA 2L taking questions

Postby YCrevolution » Mon Jun 21, 2010 4:21 pm

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Re: UVA 2L taking questions

Postby vanwinkle » Mon Jun 21, 2010 4:26 pm

YCrevolution wrote:The only classes that should be excluded, if they aren't already (I don't know), would be JAG classes since they have an A- curve.

If I knew this last semester I would've found out (and tried to take a JAG class if they weren't excluded).

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Re: UVA 2L taking questions

Postby howcani111 » Mon Jun 21, 2010 4:29 pm

vanwinkle wrote:
YCrevolution wrote:The only classes that should be excluded, if they aren't already (I don't know), would be JAG classes since they have an A- curve.

If I knew this last semester I would've found out (and tried to take a JAG class if they weren't excluded).


What's a jag class?

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Re: UVA 2L taking questions

Postby YCrevolution » Mon Jun 21, 2010 4:32 pm

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Re: UVA 2L taking questions

Postby Kohinoor » Mon Jun 21, 2010 5:05 pm

vanwinkle wrote:
YCrevolution wrote:The only classes that should be excluded, if they aren't already (I don't know), would be JAG classes since they have an A- curve.

If I knew this last semester I would've found out (and tried to take a JAG class if they weren't excluded).

+1000. Their courses seem super interesting anyway. But I bet they maintain that A- curve by dinging the law students trying to game the system.

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Re: UVA 2L taking questions

Postby vamedic03 » Mon Jun 21, 2010 9:09 pm

Cavalier wrote:
FeuerFrei wrote:Well I had just thought with things like calculating the top 25 GPAs for LR, they may only want to take the classes everyone had in common to level the field.

Given that every class is curved, you can't really gain an unfair advantage through clever elective selection. If you're trying to grade on to law review there are classes you should avoid taking, like federal courts and seminars with a guaranteed B+ grade, but assuming you take ordinary courses, the playing field is already level.


Also, I recommend avoiding legislation spring 1L - worth taking, but should be a 4+ credit course and its filled with LR people.

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Re: UVA 2L taking questions

Postby Cavalier » Mon Jun 21, 2010 9:17 pm

vamedic03 wrote:
Cavalier wrote:
FeuerFrei wrote:Well I had just thought with things like calculating the top 25 GPAs for LR, they may only want to take the classes everyone had in common to level the field.

Given that every class is curved, you can't really gain an unfair advantage through clever elective selection. If you're trying to grade on to law review there are classes you should avoid taking, like federal courts and seminars with a guaranteed B+ grade, but assuming you take ordinary courses, the playing field is already level.

Also, I recommend avoiding legislation spring 1L - worth taking, but should be a 4+ credit course and its filled with LR people.

From everything that I've heard, I would avoid any class taught by Nelson as a 1L.

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Re: UVA 2L taking questions

Postby Deuce » Tue Jun 29, 2010 2:53 pm

How much would ED to UVA help? I'm 168 3.88 so I understand I'm very borderline, but I've always loved UVA and the more I look into it it's becoming my clear cut #1. I was thinking about doing ED right when the app. opens up and getting it in early Sepember, thus getting a response by October. Thoughts?

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Re: UVA 2L taking questions

Postby D Brooks » Tue Jun 29, 2010 2:57 pm

Ildeuce wrote:How much would ED to UVA help? I'm 168 3.88 so I understand I'm very borderline, but I've always loved UVA and the more I look into it it's becoming my clear cut #1. I was thinking about doing ED right when the app. opens up and getting it in early Sepember, thus getting a response by October. Thoughts?


Depending on the GPA median this year, I'd say you are in with an early ED application.

If you don't get into UVA ED (the promise you a decision w/in 15 days) then just ED to Michigan or Penn. Personally though, I'd retake, get a 173 and lock up HSCCN.

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Re: UVA 2L taking questions

Postby badwithpseudonyms » Tue Jun 29, 2010 3:03 pm

LSN suggests you get in without an ED. So I'd think that you're a lock with it.

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Re: UVA 2L taking questions

Postby Kohinoor » Tue Jun 29, 2010 3:08 pm

D Brooks wrote:Personally though, I'd retake, get a 173

I feel that 99% of the world's population would shiv you for saying that.

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Re: UVA 2L taking questions

Postby YCrevolution » Tue Jun 29, 2010 3:53 pm

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Re: UVA 2L taking questions

Postby D Brooks » Tue Jun 29, 2010 5:32 pm

Kohinoor wrote:
D Brooks wrote:Personally though, I'd retake, get a 173

I feel that 99% of the world's population would shiv you for saying that.


Why?

Her/his cycle would contain a fraction of the stress with a 173 as opposed to a 168.

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Re: UVA 2L taking questions

Postby vanwinkle » Tue Jun 29, 2010 5:45 pm

D Brooks wrote:
Kohinoor wrote:
D Brooks wrote:Personally though, I'd retake, get a 173

I feel that 99% of the world's population would shiv you for saying that.


Why?

Her/his cycle would contain a fraction of the stress with a 173 as opposed to a 168.

*whoosh*

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Re: UVA 2L taking questions

Postby RVP11 » Tue Jun 29, 2010 5:47 pm

Just retake and get a 180, obv.

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Re: UVA 2L taking questions

Postby Deuce » Tue Jun 29, 2010 5:54 pm

YCrevolution wrote:
Ildeuce wrote:How much would ED to UVA help? I'm 168 3.88 so I understand I'm very borderline, but I've always loved UVA and the more I look into it it's becoming my clear cut #1. I was thinking about doing ED right when the app. opens up and getting it in early Sepember, thus getting a response by October. Thoughts?

You've got a pretty strong chance of getting in ED, esp. if you ED at the start of the cycle.


I'm really thinking about putting it in September 1st to show them a little extra of how much I'd want in.




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