mrm2083 wrote:Does Penn assign summer reading for 1L?
No, but you will have assigned readings before all your first classes.
mrm2083 wrote:Does Penn assign summer reading for 1L?
DelDad wrote:Anita Allen is relatively famous in the field of privacy law, and just got appointed to Obama's bioethics panel. Enjoyed the material (including her textbook), but not the class.
The corporate law faculty are also huge in that area (Penn profs, like Wachter, Rock, Fisch, and Baker, had several of the most cited corporate and securities articles last year. I like David Skeel a lot, too, and knew him from his book Icarus in the Boardroom before law school).
Lisa Scottaline, an alum and prolific mystery author, adjuncts.
Georgiana wrote:Ive heard great things about:
Bibas
Parchomovsky
Rudovsky
Struve
Wolff
Core wrote:Do you guys recommend using LEEWS or reading E&Es during 0L summer? If not, do you recommend reading anything else?
secretsmoker wrote:Core wrote:Do you guys recommend using LEEWS or reading E&Es during 0L summer? If not, do you recommend reading anything else?
Another rising 3L at Penn here. I would just relax; get your mind and body in a good place before classes begin. I would not worry at all about knowing any substantive material, although it might be useful to seek out general law school advice. I read parts of "Law School Confidential," which you might borrow from someone, but I can't say that I used many of the tips in the book. Instead, most of the good advice I got came from current law students.
alex06 wrote:Hey guys! I have some timing questions. When do people tend to move to Philly? Mid-August? Right before classes start on Sept 1st?
And, when does the whole loan process start? Will the fin aid office be sending me documentation and such or do I need to start it on my own? When do people typically get the first disbursement of $ to help with moving in, etc?
I'm sure the fin aid office could answer the second round of questions, but you all are friendly and helpfulI'm going to have to keep this in mind for next year when I have the chance.
Core wrote:Quick question - does Penn offer a loan for students to purchase a laptop? I can't seem to find anything about this on the web site, but I know most schools seem to offer a laptop reimbursement loan.
Core wrote:Do you guys recommend using LEEWS or reading E&Es during 0L summer? If not, do you recommend reading anything else?
alex06 wrote:Hey guys! I have some timing questions. When do people tend to move to Philly? Mid-August? Right before classes start on Sept 1st?
Georgiana wrote:Roosevelt for conflicts (not con law)
kurla88 wrote:mrm2083 wrote:Does Penn assign summer reading for 1L?
No, but you will have assigned readings before all your first classes.
secretsmoker wrote:Core wrote:Do you guys recommend using LEEWS or reading E&Es during 0L summer? If not, do you recommend reading anything else?
Another rising 3L at Penn here. I would just relax; get your mind and body in a good place before classes begin. I would not worry at all about knowing any substantive material, although it might be useful to seek out general law school advice. I read parts of "Law School Confidential," which you might borrow from someone, but I can't say that I used many of the tips in the book. Instead, most of the good advice I got came from current law students.
Core wrote:alex06 wrote:Hey guys! I have some timing questions. When do people tend to move to Philly? Mid-August? Right before classes start on Sept 1st?
And, when does the whole loan process start? Will the fin aid office be sending me documentation and such or do I need to start it on my own? When do people typically get the first disbursement of $ to help with moving in, etc?
I'm sure the fin aid office could answer the second round of questions, but you all are friendly and helpfulI'm going to have to keep this in mind for next year when I have the chance.
I called to ask about this earlier. It begins later this month and the financial aid office is going to be in touch with us in the month or so about loan processing. People get the first disbursement of $$ within a week or so of class but you should expect to cover your deposit and first month's rent on your own.
lostmyname wrote:Core wrote:Quick question - does Penn offer a loan for students to purchase a laptop? I can't seem to find anything about this on the web site, but I know most schools seem to offer a laptop reimbursement loan.
I'm fairly confident that they will make an adjustment to your expected school costs so you can take out extra loan money. But of course, you'd have to call them to ask for that adjustment individually.
lostmyname wrote:alex06 wrote:Hey guys! I have some timing questions. When do people tend to move to Philly? Mid-August? Right before classes start on Sept 1st?
People tend to move at all of those times. If you don't know anyone in Philly already or don't have anything in particular to do, I would probably wait until a little later. If you're participating in the pre/orientation activities, give yourself a few days (like, 2 or 3) just to unpack your stuff, unless you don't find unpacking stressful and think you can handle dealing with organizing/setting up your household while also going out and partying/recovering a whole bunch. IIRC, though, not all the orientation activities are mandatory (I think); I remember skipping a bunch.
lostmyname wrote:Georgiana wrote:Roosevelt for conflicts (not con law)
I really disliked Roosevelt for Con Law. But is he really widely recommended for Conflicts? I could stand the idea of taking another class from him if I knew he actually *taught* in that class... I feel like I didn't learn a single thing in Con Law and certainly wasn't provoked to think about the applications of the concepts that we studied.
lostmyname wrote:Georgiana, thanks for the response as well as the words of support! One last set of questions: my understanding is that Conflicts and Federal Courts taught by Struve are essentially the same class. If that's true, which one would you recommend taking? I've heard great things about Struve's teaching -- she certainly has a wonderful speaking manner -- but I've also heard that Federal Courts is a very gunner-heavy class, possibly more so than Conflicts. Would you agree with that assessment?
lostmyname wrote:Georgiana, thanks for the response as well as the words of support! One last set of questions: my understanding is that Conflicts and Federal Courts taught by Struve are essentially the same class. If that's true, which one would you recommend taking? I've heard great things about Struve's teaching -- she certainly has a wonderful speaking manner -- but I've also heard that Federal Courts is a very gunner-heavy class, possibly more so than Conflicts. Would you agree with that assessment?
secretsmoker wrote:Although this was directed at Georgiana I thought I would write a response because I also took conflicts with Roosevelt, and I liked the subject matter a lot. He came out with a thin book on the subject last semester, which will make a great supplement (or perhaps replacement) for the readings next year. However, I have never heard that Conflicts is "essentially the same class." Granted, I have not taken Fed Courts yet, but I'm pretty sure they don't overlap to the point of redundancy. Nor did I really get the impression that conflicts was "gunner-heavy," which is a label I might only reserve for Wachter's Corps course my 2L year (which, by the way, is nevertheless the Corps course you should choose). Conflicts, and almost all of the other classes I took, were gunner-light. Of course, Georgiana may have a very different viewpoint.
Georgiana wrote:Conflicts CERTAINLY does not overlap with Fed Courts. And its not a gunner heavy class at all. It's one of the few classes I recommend from this year.
lostmyname wrote:Cool, thanks guys! OK, I guess I have more questions. What was the final for Conflicts like? I ask because this year's Con final was killer and very swear-inducing among most of my section.
secretsmoker, why do you so strongly suggest Wachter? I mean, I know he's the more intense teacher, but would taking Skeel really be such a bad move?
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