Penn Students Taking Questions

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby B.B. Homemaker » Sat Jul 26, 2014 11:43 am

ymmv wrote:
tigersaresexy wrote:
B.B. Homemaker wrote:Only during finals. Building normally closes at 10 or 11 or something, and yes, you're screwed if you leave something you need between then and 7:30 am.


Dammit I'm going to have to find somewhere else to leave a spare key then


Maybe your wallet? Unless you frequently lose both your keys and your wallet simultaneously.

Give it to a friend.

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby ymmv » Sat Jul 26, 2014 11:47 am

B.B. Homemaker wrote:
ymmv wrote:
tigersaresexy wrote:
B.B. Homemaker wrote:Only during finals. Building normally closes at 10 or 11 or something, and yes, you're screwed if you leave something you need between then and 7:30 am.


Dammit I'm going to have to find somewhere else to leave a spare key then


Maybe your wallet? Unless you frequently lose both your keys and your wallet simultaneously.

Give it to a friend.


#KJDProblems

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby tigersaresexy » Sat Jul 26, 2014 11:54 am

ymmv wrote:
tigersaresexy wrote:
B.B. Homemaker wrote:Only during finals. Building normally closes at 10 or 11 or something, and yes, you're screwed if you leave something you need between then and 7:30 am.


Dammit I'm going to have to find somewhere else to leave a spare key then


Maybe your wallet? Unless you frequently lose both your keys and your wallet simultaneously.


I actually just found out my apartment charges an obscene amount of money for lock-outs, and I'm always switching between various handbags/wallets for various occasions (I have a fetish okay?) so it's not super unlikely that I would leave something important in my apartment. I used to remedy this problem by leaving a spare set in my mail box that had a combination on it, but it looks like my new apartment has mailbox keys =(

The only thing I consistently have on me is my cellphone..I think I might have to buy one of those cases with a storage compartment...

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby tigersaresexy » Sat Jul 26, 2014 11:55 am

ymmv wrote:
B.B. Homemaker wrote:Give it to a friend.


#KJDProblems


What are friends?

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby goldenboy514 » Sat Jul 26, 2014 1:25 pm

Keep going. We've almost reached a whole page of locker discussions lol. For real though, dont stress about this small stuff

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby ymmv » Sat Jul 26, 2014 1:26 pm

goldenboy514 wrote:Keep going. We've almost reached a whole page of locker discussions lol. For real though, dont stress about this small stuff


TBF the real thing to stress about is that you won't have a locker for the first two months of class while you wait for the 2Ls on journal to finally clear out their shit. For the sake of your spine I highly recommend a wheeled suitcase for your case books in the mean time.
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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby PennBull » Sat Jul 26, 2014 1:46 pm

I highly recommend not buying books at all and just googling everything and using old outlines

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby ymmv » Sat Jul 26, 2014 2:47 pm

PennBull wrote:I highly recommend not buying books at all and just googling everything and using old outlines


I'd agree with this for some classes but not all. This is probably a good way to bomb Property for instance. And everyone needs to develop case-reading/skimming skills at some point, and you might as well do it first semester while there's relatively little reading and only 3 classes.

In general I think TCR is to talk to upperclassmen about individual professors and figure out what's necessary or unnecessary for each.

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby PennBull » Sat Jul 26, 2014 2:48 pm

haha property is probably the second least necessary reading course behind torts man

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby ymmv » Sat Jul 26, 2014 2:50 pm

PennBull wrote:haha property is probably the second least necessary reading course behind torts man


I take it you did not have Balganesh? Because if you managed to get an A from him without doing any reading, then JFC more power to you.

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby PennBull » Sat Jul 26, 2014 2:52 pm

ohhhh right he is a bit different; usually people just had BLL Property classes so it was pretty much just follow along with a 200 page outline and don't buy a book haha

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby ymmv » Sat Jul 26, 2014 2:55 pm

PennBull wrote:ohhhh right he is a bit different; usually people just had BLL Property classes so it was pretty much just follow along with a 200 page outline and don't buy a book haha


Balganesh's exam is more like, you'd better know every fucking sentence of the cases or you're SOL. And the outlines available were pretty terrible TBH, lots of errors and straight up missing the point. Either that or he changes his mind from year to year.

In any case, as long as he's the only property prof I think reading for P is mandatory.

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby PennBull » Sat Jul 26, 2014 2:58 pm

well now he's the only one because the ABA yelled at Penn for making our 1Ls work too hard and hurting their feelings

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby tigersaresexy » Sat Jul 26, 2014 11:02 pm

Talking about lugging books around...how about that old college trick where you get the spine cut off your textbook and hole-punch it so you can take the relevant parts with you in a binder and leave the rest behind.

Is that feasible?

Also, why no lockers for 2 months?

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby ymmv » Sat Jul 26, 2014 11:16 pm

tigersaresexy wrote:Talking about lugging books around...how about that old college trick where you get the spine cut off your textbook and hole-punch it so you can take the relevant parts with you in a binder and leave the rest behind.

Is that feasible?


A small handful of people did this. It seems like way too much work to me. And depending on the prof you won't always know the "relevant parts" to lug around to class.

tigersaresexy wrote:Also, why no lockers for 2 months?


Because 2Ls don't give a shit about 1Ls or their problems. And are lazy.

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby Nelson » Sun Jul 27, 2014 9:54 am

tigersaresexy wrote:
B.B. Homemaker wrote:Only during finals. Building normally closes at 10 or 11 or something, and yes, you're screwed if you leave something you need between then and 7:30 am.


Dammit I'm going to have to find somewhere else to leave a spare key then

Don't leave anything valuable in the lockers.

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby Nelson » Sun Jul 27, 2014 9:56 am

PennBull wrote:I highly recommend not buying books at all and just googling everything and using old outlines

Don't do this as a 1L.

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby PennBull » Sun Jul 27, 2014 12:29 pm

Nelson wrote:
PennBull wrote:I highly recommend not buying books at all and just googling everything and using old outlines

Don't do this as a 1L.


Haha I mean I made it work but I think it takes a certain mentality and a solid gameplan. But it saves you a thousand bucks and you cut through the bullshit faster.

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby Nelson » Sun Jul 27, 2014 2:20 pm

PennBull wrote:
Nelson wrote:
PennBull wrote:I highly recommend not buying books at all and just googling everything and using old outlines

Don't do this as a 1L.


Haha I mean I made it work but I think it takes a certain mentality and a solid gameplan. But it saves you a thousand bucks and you cut through the bullshit faster.

Yeah I think half of 1L fall is figuring out what works for you. You can't do that unless you experiment a little. I still do all of my casebook reading and make my own outlines. Different strokes.

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby wlee1220 » Wed Jul 30, 2014 6:05 pm

goldenboy514 wrote:
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goldenboy514 wrote:Anyone have any experience with buying a parking pass for Penn? Will be commuting and trying to figure out how/where I go to sign up for one

You get it through the University. Look on Security's website. It's really expensive though. No way you can park and take Septa?


I'm in NJ. I could but then Id have to drive to Patco 20 mins, take patco to like 15th and locust, then take septa and walk a few blocks. Too much for me


What part of Jersey? You could drive over to the station in Cherry Hill, take that train into 30th Street station and walk from there. That's my plan at least.

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby wildcatatpenn » Sat Aug 02, 2014 2:23 pm

Anyone taken a class with Kreimer? Or particularly Constitutional litigation?

Stickler for attendance/not being late etc?

Only class on my schedule I'm not sure if I particularly want

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby Nelson » Sun Aug 03, 2014 8:30 pm

wildcatatpenn wrote:Anyone taken a class with Kreimer? Or particularly Constitutional litigation?

Stickler for attendance/not being late etc?

Only class on my schedule I'm not sure if I particularly want

If your goal is an easy A, that class is usually pretty gunner-ish and is on the curve. I like Kreimer, though your mileage may vary since he rubs some people the wrong way.

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby B.B. Homemaker » Sun Aug 03, 2014 10:50 pm

Nelson wrote:If your goal is an easy A

hypothetically, what are the best options for meeting this goal?

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby Nelson » Sun Aug 03, 2014 10:58 pm

B.B. Homemaker wrote:
Nelson wrote:If your goal is an easy A

hypothetically, what are the best options for meeting this goal?

If you're good at exams, then big black letter law classes that everyone takes: corps, evidence, admin, etc. (avoid the typical clerk classes: fed cts, con lit, complex lit). If you're bad at exams, seminars (but you have to do your due diligence since some seminars are a ton of work and/or harshly graded).

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby WhirledWorld » Mon Aug 04, 2014 1:38 am

The easiest of A's is an independent study. Some of the Wharton classes come close though.




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