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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby Nelson » Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:54 pm

JamesDean1955 wrote:Has anyone tried receiving electric/heat subsidies from PECO from these programs or are we ineligible because we are students? I spoke to an undergrad student in Philly who believes I should be eligible for this.

https://www.peco.com/CustomerService/As ... IHEAP.aspx

https://www.peco.com/CustomerService/As ... fault.aspx

Seriously?

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby POTUS2044 » Fri Aug 23, 2013 3:04 pm

whatever
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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby JamesDean1955 » Fri Aug 23, 2013 3:09 pm

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby JamesDean1955 » Fri Aug 23, 2013 3:16 pm

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby sopranorleone » Fri Aug 23, 2013 3:24 pm

JamesDean1955 wrote:
POTUS2044 wrote:
JamesDean1955 wrote:Has anyone tried receiving electric/heat subsidies from PECO from these programs or are we ineligible because we are students? I spoke to an undergrad student in Philly who believes I should be eligible for this.

https://www.peco.com/CustomerService/As ... IHEAP.aspx

https://www.peco.com/CustomerService/As ... fault.aspx


dont forget food stamps and welfare!

http://www.dpw.state.pa.us/foradults/su ... ceprogram/

http://www.dpw.state.pa.us/applyforbenefits/index.htm


Solid use of a fourth post to be a dick. And as someone who had to go on food stamps at one point when they were younger and their family was going through a rough patch, go fuck yourself.


Between this and the OCI thread, I don't even...

Seriously, you might very well be eligible. PECO doesn't seem to have much information posted about exactly what the eligibility requirements are, so I'd give them a call. Can't hurt.

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby JamesDean1955 » Fri Aug 23, 2013 3:36 pm

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby clee33 » Fri Aug 23, 2013 8:00 pm

perhaps you should remember that this is the internet, people are dicks, don't take everything so seriously

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby r6_philly » Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:48 pm

clee33 wrote:perhaps you should remember that this is the internet, people are dicks, don't take everything so seriously


Except these people are my classmates IRL

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby POTUS2044 » Fri Oct 11, 2013 6:56 pm

Anyone have a recommendation on which career counselor they work with/like? Interested in firm work (1L SA would be nice :wink:). Prefer them to be direct & honest if that matters (according to their spiel at ASW it does...)

I know in the end its all on us but I figure some would be better than others...

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby No13baby » Wed Oct 16, 2013 12:18 am

POTUS2044 wrote:Anyone have a recommendation on which career counselor they work with/like? Interested in firm work (1L SA would be nice :wink:). Prefer them to be direct & honest if that matters (according to their spiel at ASW it does...)

I know in the end its all on us but I figure some would be better than others...


Mariel is by far the most helpful. I don't think she has regular drop-in hours, so you'll probably have to email her to make an appointment.

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby ymmv » Mon Oct 21, 2013 1:40 pm

With spring 2014 registration open, would any 2/3Ls mind weighing in on this year's electives? I've managed through searching to find bits of advice on a couple of the professors in this and other threads, but not necessarily in reference these particular courses.

Regulatory Electives:
Admin (Lee)
Bankruptcy (Mooney)
Legislation (Ruger)
Public International Law (Burke-White)

General Electives:
Intro to IP Law & Policy (Wagner)
Law and Economics (Abrams)
Law and Society in Japan (Feldman)
Legal Responses to Inequality (Lesnick)
Property (Balganesh)

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby PennBull » Mon Oct 21, 2013 1:47 pm

My personal preference is to take the largest classes with the most old outlines so as to minimize my work

Therefore, I recommend Admin and Property

Publ. Inter. Law is going to attract everyone you don't want to have class with, plus it's a lot of difficult weird reading (so I hear). Burke-White is cool tho

Legal Responses to Inequality is just a paper at the end, but who the fuck knows how it's gonna be graded

Abrams is really cool, and Law and Econ probably would be cool with him. He usually taught IP and people loved him

People liked Legislation and Ruger, but only if that's your jam

It's a shame Skeel isn't teaching bankruptcy; he was awesome. Dunno who this new guy is.

People have mixed reviews on Feldman in their evidence class

Lee and Balganesh are both solid (but not great) professors with lots of old outlines to help study.

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby SportsFan » Mon Oct 21, 2013 2:56 pm

I've heard Mooney is pretty bad compared to Skeel, so I'd avoid him. People seemed to like admin and PI Law. Would definitely recommend Property for the other elective. IP Law seemed really popular last year but honestly I don't see the point in taking that unless you want to get into it (which requires an IP background).

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby Nelson » Mon Oct 21, 2013 8:04 pm

ymmv wrote:With spring 2014 registration open, would any 2/3Ls mind weighing in on this year's electives? I've managed through searching to find bits of advice on a couple of the professors in this and other threads, but not necessarily in reference these particular courses.

Regulatory Electives:
Admin (Lee)
Bankruptcy (Mooney)
Legislation (Ruger)
Public International Law (Burke-White)

General Electives:
Intro to IP Law & Policy (Wagner)
Law and Economics (Abrams)
Law and Society in Japan (Feldman)
Legal Responses to Inequality (Lesnick)
Property (Balganesh)

I highly recommend property with Balganesh. His exam last year was a four hour hell though.

Wagner is an awesome prof but Intro to IP is kind of a pointless class and you're better off waiting to take real patent law as a 2L/3L.

Zaring taught admin last year and he is great. Don't know anything about Lee though. Admin was an easy pick for the regulatory slot last year, but legislation might be worth it since Ruger is supposed to be awesome.

PennBull wrote:Publ. Inter. Law is going to attract everyone you don't want to have class with, plus it's a lot of difficult weird reading (so I hear).

So much this. Avoid like the plague.

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby ymmv » Mon Oct 21, 2013 8:41 pm

Nelson wrote:
PennBull wrote:Publ. Inter. Law is going to attract everyone you don't want to have class with, plus it's a lot of difficult weird reading (so I hear).

So much this. Avoid like the plague.


Would you mind elaborating on this? Is the concern that a class like this attracts people who believe "international law" is a viable field of practice? I'm just curious - the course sounds academically interesting, but given the other options it's low on my list.

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby Nelson » Mon Oct 21, 2013 9:58 pm

ymmv wrote:
Nelson wrote:
PennBull wrote:Publ. Inter. Law is going to attract everyone you don't want to have class with, plus it's a lot of difficult weird reading (so I hear).

So much this. Avoid like the plague.


Would you mind elaborating on this? Is the concern that a class like this attracts people who believe "international law" is a viable field of practice? I'm just curious - the course sounds academically interesting, but given the other options it's low on my list.

If it's interesting to you, then go for it. Taking classes you're interested in is always a good idea. Not being facetious either. I just don't find any law school classes interesting, and "public international law" is going to attract a certain personality type in students and professor.

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby PennBull » Mon Oct 21, 2013 11:34 pm

Nelson wrote:
ymmv wrote:
Nelson wrote:
PennBull wrote:Publ. Inter. Law is going to attract everyone you don't want to have class with, plus it's a lot of difficult weird reading (so I hear).

So much this. Avoid like the plague.


Would you mind elaborating on this? Is the concern that a class like this attracts people who believe "international law" is a viable field of practice? I'm just curious - the course sounds academically interesting, but given the other options it's low on my list.

If it's interesting to you, then go for it. Taking classes you're interested in is always a good idea. Not being facetious either. I just don't find any law school classes interesting, and "public international law" is going to attract a certain personality type in students and professor.


It's just going to be all people interested in some high-ground morality career and saving the planet, and therefore they often have the most opinions that they need to voice in class and completely derail any meaningful discussion

These people can be cool friends outside of class but they'll make class insufferable. Take your worst gunner and then give yourself like, 20 of them

Of course I'm just an asshole who hates class in general, so maybe I'm overreacting

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby No13baby » Wed Oct 23, 2013 9:57 pm

ymmv wrote:
Nelson wrote:
PennBull wrote:Publ. Inter. Law is going to attract everyone you don't want to have class with, plus it's a lot of difficult weird reading (so I hear).

So much this. Avoid like the plague.


Would you mind elaborating on this? Is the concern that a class like this attracts people who believe "international law" is a viable field of practice? I'm just curious - the course sounds academically interesting, but given the other options it's low on my list.

Also, the prof has a reputation for hitting on students (having never interacted with him, I can neither confirm nor deny this).
The best thing to do (which I'm surprised nobody has mentioned yet) is to go to the registrar's office and look at the past grade distributions for the electives, then take the ones which give the most grades above median. Don't feel like you need to take electives in a particular subject area for OCI. It's better to give yourself a shot at getting the best grades possible.

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby POTUS2044 » Wed Oct 23, 2013 11:33 pm

No13baby wrote:
ymmv wrote:
Nelson wrote:
PennBull wrote:Publ. Inter. Law is going to attract everyone you don't want to have class with, plus it's a lot of difficult weird reading (so I hear).

So much this. Avoid like the plague.


Would you mind elaborating on this? Is the concern that a class like this attracts people who believe "international law" is a viable field of practice? I'm just curious - the course sounds academically interesting, but given the other options it's low on my list.

Also, the prof has a reputation for hitting on students (having never interacted with him, I can neither confirm nor deny this).
The best thing to do (which I'm surprised nobody has mentioned yet) is to go to the registrar's office and look at the past grade distributions for the electives, then take the ones which give the most grades above median. Don't feel like you need to take electives in a particular subject area for OCI. It's better to give yourself a shot at getting the best grades possible.


are the distributions for the profs or the classes more relevent? I think many (most?) of them are different profs (ie ip is wagner instead of abrams)

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby No13baby » Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:45 am

POTUS2044 wrote:
No13baby wrote:
ymmv wrote:Would you mind elaborating on this? Is the concern that a class like this attracts people who believe "international law" is a viable field of practice? I'm just curious - the course sounds academically interesting, but given the other options it's low on my list.

Also, the prof has a reputation for hitting on students (having never interacted with him, I can neither confirm nor deny this).
The best thing to do (which I'm surprised nobody has mentioned yet) is to go to the registrar's office and look at the past grade distributions for the electives, then take the ones which give the most grades above median. Don't feel like you need to take electives in a particular subject area for OCI. It's better to give yourself a shot at getting the best grades possible.


are the distributions for the profs or the classes more relevent? I think many (most?) of them are different profs (ie ip is wagner instead of abrams)


Yes, good point. They're definitely more relevant for the profs (although it's worth checking the spring 2012 distributions as well in case some of those professors are the same).

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby PennBull » Thu Oct 24, 2013 9:17 am

No13baby wrote:The best thing to do (which I'm surprised nobody has mentioned yet) is to go to the registrar's office and look at the past grade distributions for the electives, then take the ones which give the most grades above median. Don't feel like you need to take electives in a particular subject area for OCI. It's better to give yourself a shot at getting the best grades possible.


I heard some people had trouble explaining that "Law in American Life" class away

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby Nelson » Thu Oct 24, 2013 10:46 am

PennBull wrote:
No13baby wrote:The best thing to do (which I'm surprised nobody has mentioned yet) is to go to the registrar's office and look at the past grade distributions for the electives, then take the ones which give the most grades above median. Don't feel like you need to take electives in a particular subject area for OCI. It's better to give yourself a shot at getting the best grades possible.


I heard some people had trouble explaining that "Law in American Life" class away

This definitely happened to some people. When you take a class that squishy 1L year and other people take property, it doesn't look great. Most people won't care, but it will rub some the wrong way.

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby sopranorleone » Thu Oct 24, 2013 8:56 pm

What's the word on Reich for Professional Responsibility?

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby PennBull » Thu Oct 24, 2013 9:18 pm

sopranorleone wrote:What's the word on Reich for Professional Responsibility?


Took him. I don't think you can do any better for a Prof Resp professor. Nice dude, quirky, I didn't hate going to class when I did (which was rarely). Class is totally optional.

Exam is like, a bazillion multiple choice questions, but totally closed book. 90% of the questions are super easy, 10% required you to remember something from the old outline (that you're sure to receive, everyone will have it and if you make your own you're doing yourself a disservice).

I took two days to read the outline, make flash cards from the outline, and memorize a bunch of shit.

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby sopranorleone » Thu Oct 24, 2013 10:29 pm

PennBull wrote:
sopranorleone wrote:What's the word on Reich for Professional Responsibility?


Took him. I don't think you can do any better for a Prof Resp professor. Nice dude, quirky, I didn't hate going to class when I did (which was rarely). Class is totally optional.

Exam is like, a bazillion multiple choice questions, but totally closed book. 90% of the questions are super easy, 10% required you to remember something from the old outline (that you're sure to receive, everyone will have it and if you make your own you're doing yourself a disservice).

I took two days to read the outline, make flash cards from the outline, and memorize a bunch of shit.


NOICE. Thanks!




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