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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby PennBull » Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:24 pm

You'll find out in plenty of time before anybody's first interviews. Chillax yall

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby whatsthat » Tue Jul 16, 2013 9:22 am

Wholigan wrote:In the past, Rudovsky's class has met 3 days per week (which usually includes Friday morning) and the other evidence classes 2 days. He covers more topics from what I have heard of the other sections. Rudovsky was definitely one of my favorite professors at the law school. He usually wins whatever the favorite professor prize is called from the graduating class every other year, since you can't win it back-to-back years. He lets you know who is on call by email prior to class (about a day ahead, IIRC). He's a practitioner and has been teaching forever, so he brings a lot of real world experience. He is very civil-liberties leaning for what that's worth. The exam was half MC and half essay. I would recommend his class over the others if you have an interest in the subject matter or in criminal law work.

Ah, you're right, thanks, I missed the "F" on the spreadsheet. I don't really have that much interest in the class but it's one of the most recommended. Would it be bad to take evidence 3L year instead or do most take it 2L year?

Georgiana wrote:I had Sanchirico for Fed Income Tax and he definitely knew his stuff... but didn't really know how to teach it. Lovely man who is very smart, but I have never been more lost in my life. Luckily everyone else was lost too so our exam grades evened out even though I literally made things up. I expected a C (or worse...), got a B+. I did not learn anything in that class unfortunately (which is sad because knowing something about tax in my current job would be helpful).

Thanks! Does anyone know anything about Shuldiner (any stories from friends, maybe?) I'm trying to decide whether to take Fed Income Tax this semester or next.

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby Wholigan » Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:29 pm

whatsthat wrote:Ah, you're right, thanks, I missed the "F" on the spreadsheet. I don't really have that much interest in the class but it's one of the most recommended. Would it be bad to take evidence 3L year instead or do most take it 2L year?


I'm sure that's fine. The only reasons I can think of to take it 2L year would be to demonstrate interest in litigation or to learn evidence for a litigation related activity such as the criminal defense clinic or a mock trial competition. Although by 3L year you will probably be even less inclined to want to come to school at 9:00 on Friday mornings. I would guess that my class was about 2/3 2Ls, but there are people who take evidence as a 3L.

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby SportsFan » Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:08 pm

Got an email saying my OCI schedule is online, so I checked it. I have 32 interviews. :shock: I'm praying there's not a mistake somewhere...

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby PennBull » Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:58 pm

SportsFan wrote:Got an email saying my OCI schedule is online, so I checked it. I have 32 interviews. :shock: I'm praying there's not a mistake somewhere...


The PennBull system works.

Of course feel free to trade any of them away in two- or three-for-ones. Or just give them away. I just think it's better to soak up as many now and deal with them later.

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby whatsthat » Tue Jul 16, 2013 2:04 pm

PennBull wrote:Of course feel free to trade any of them away in two- or three-for-ones. Or just give them away. I just think it's better to soak up as many now and deal with them later.

Was just coming to ask if Penn was the school where you could trade interviews. How does that work? You just find someone and ask if they want to trade X for Y?
Also, is the likelihood of getting a slot from the opt-in waitlist based on where you ranked the firm initially? Missed a few in my top 15 I’d really like to get.

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby PennBull » Tue Jul 16, 2013 2:05 pm

whatsthat wrote:
PennBull wrote:Of course feel free to trade any of them away in two- or three-for-ones. Or just give them away. I just think it's better to soak up as many now and deal with them later.

Was just coming to ask if Penn was the school where you could trade interviews. How does that work? You just find someone and ask if they want to trade X for Y?


You can either do it on your own and e-mail CPP or when the Classified section gets more active you'll see people willing to trade certain interviews wanting to acquire other ones.

whatsthat wrote:Also, is the likelihood of getting a slot from the opt-in waitlist based on where you ranked the firm initially? Missed a few in my top 15 I’d really like to get.


I didn't get any. Consider them lost.

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby whatsthat » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:00 pm

PennBull wrote:I didn't get any. Consider them lost.

Nooo

ok thanks. :P I will definitely check out that swapping thing.

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby run26.2 » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:13 pm

whatsthat wrote:
PennBull wrote:I didn't get any. Consider them lost.

Nooo

ok thanks. :P I will definitely check out that swapping thing.

You can show up early on the day of the interview and check the time-slot listings. Often, people cancel without trading their spots.

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby europhile » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:41 pm

PennBull wrote:
SportsFan wrote:Got an email saying my OCI schedule is online, so I checked it. I have 32 interviews. :shock: I'm praying there's not a mistake somewhere...


The PennBull system works.

Of course feel free to trade any of them away in two- or three-for-ones. Or just give them away. I just think it's better to soak up as many now and deal with them later.


I'm interested in learning the PennBull system. Will you still be at Penn this coming year? If so, a couple Yuenglings are on me if you are willing to teach me the system.

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby PennBull » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:45 pm

europhile wrote:I'm interested in learning the PennBull system. Will you still be at Penn this coming year? If so, a couple Yuenglings are on me if you are willing to teach me the system.


Ha by the time you'll be bidding I'll be studying for the bar and will happily help you because studying sounds miserable. It's nothing special. Just analyzing interview sizes and knowing where to put one firm over another.

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby SportsFan » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:48 pm

PennBull wrote:
SportsFan wrote:Got an email saying my OCI schedule is online, so I checked it. I have 32 interviews. :shock: I'm praying there's not a mistake somewhere...


The PennBull system works.

Of course feel free to trade any of them away in two- or three-for-ones. Or just give them away. I just think it's better to soak up as many now and deal with them later.

Yeah it definitely does. I got 22 out of my first 23 (didn't get Mayer Brown at 7), nothing from 24 to 34, then just random ones. Mostly NYC, but also 6 Philly, 4 Wilmington, and 3 elsewhere. I'm pretty ecstatic.

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby europhile » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:53 pm

SportsFan wrote:
PennBull wrote:
SportsFan wrote:Got an email saying my OCI schedule is online, so I checked it. I have 32 interviews. :shock: I'm praying there's not a mistake somewhere...


The PennBull system works.

Of course feel free to trade any of them away in two- or three-for-ones. Or just give them away. I just think it's better to soak up as many now and deal with them later.

Yeah it definitely does. I got 22 out of my first 23 (didn't get Mayer Brown at 7), nothing from 24 to 34, then just random ones. Mostly NYC, but also 6 Philly, 4 Wilmington, and 3 elsewhere. I'm pretty ecstatic.

Don't know you, but that is awesome. Good luck with interviews.

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby PennBull » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:55 pm

Oh putting the Wilmington was pretty clutch of you. Nobody bids there but with your background it might look pretty good. Obviously we'd like to start in a Philly or a New York but interviews are interviews.

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby SportsFan » Tue Jul 16, 2013 5:01 pm

PennBull wrote:Oh putting the Wilmington was pretty clutch of you. Nobody bids there but with your background it might look pretty good. Obviously we'd like to start in a Philly or a New York but interviews are interviews.

Yeah, I bid them in the mid 40's (since they seemed more gettable than anything else I hadn't bid yet), figuring that I might get 1 or 2 interviews (not 4!). I took bankruptcy as one of my 1L electives, so I figure I have as good a chance as anyone else not from Delaware.

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby Revolver066 » Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:53 pm

PennBull wrote:You'll find out in plenty of time before anybody's first interviews. Chillax yall


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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby SportsFan » Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:01 am

I'm sure everyone got the email, but in case anyone missed it somehow, journals will be released next Friday-Sunday.

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby PennBull » Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:06 am

SportsFan wrote:I'm sure everyone got the email, but in case anyone missed it somehow, journals will be released next Friday-Sunday.


Right about when it should.

Hope everyone gets JBL, we are chill and sociable and our exec editors don't suck. My role is to take all the free booze in the office.

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby SportsFan » Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:11 am

PennBull wrote:
SportsFan wrote:I'm sure everyone got the email, but in case anyone missed it somehow, journals will be released next Friday-Sunday.


Right about when it should.

Hope everyone gets JBL, we are chill and sociable and our exec editors don't suck. My role is to take all the free booze in the office.

I forget if I ranked them 2nd or 3rd, but you're making me wish I'd put them 1st. :lol:

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby justicefishy » Thu Jul 18, 2013 5:19 pm

I put JBL 2nd for me too. I really hope I get it. I also didn't rock as many interviews as SportsFan but I got 25, with 18 out of my top 20. Mostly DC and NYC, with a bit of Silicon Valley in there too. Plus 2 Philly and a Chicago. Which is weird.

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby SportsFan » Fri Jul 19, 2013 9:58 am

If I took Bankruptcy as my 1L elective, is it worth it to take that Business Bankruptcy: Chapter 11 class (its Law 709). I'm interested in transactional law but I think that might just be too much bamkruptcy.

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby PennBull » Fri Jul 19, 2013 10:00 am

SportsFan wrote:If I took Bankruptcy as my 1L elective, is it worth it to take that Business Bankruptcy: Chapter 11 class (its Law 709). I'm interested in transactional law but I think that might just be too much bamkruptcy.


I heard good things about it, good prof if it's the same one

If you liked and/or did well in BK then it'll be easy/GPA booster

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby SportsFan » Fri Jul 19, 2013 10:18 am

PennBull wrote:
SportsFan wrote:If I took Bankruptcy as my 1L elective, is it worth it to take that Business Bankruptcy: Chapter 11 class (its Law 709). I'm interested in transactional law but I think that might just be too much bamkruptcy.


I heard good things about it, good prof if it's the same one

If you liked and/or did well in BK then it'll be easy/GPA booster

Thanks. Maybe I will, still a bit undecided.

And I'm probably not gonna take it because it just sounds extremely boring, but why is Federal Income Tax so popular?

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby PennBull » Fri Jul 19, 2013 10:45 am

SportsFan wrote:
And I'm probably not gonna take it because it just sounds extremely boring, but why is Federal Income Tax so popular?


bar exam (I think), lots of old outlines, somewhat useful in practice

I'm taking it because I have realized I fucking hate seminars (personal style, nothing against the classes/professors themselves) and I'd rather take classes that have old outlines rendering class optional

exams suck but I also suck at writing papers

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby SportsFan » Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:10 am

PennBull wrote:
SportsFan wrote:
And I'm probably not gonna take it because it just sounds extremely boring, but why is Federal Income Tax so popular?


bar exam (I think), lots of old outlines, somewhat useful in practice

I'm taking it because I have realized I fucking hate seminars (personal style, nothing against the classes/professors themselves) and I'd rather take classes that have old outlines rendering class optional

exams suck but I also suck at writing papers

Interesting, thanks. Maybe I'll take it next year during 3LOL.




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