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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby JamesDean1955 » Wed Apr 17, 2013 1:44 pm

r6_philly wrote:
JamesDean1955 wrote:$3,500.00 for a year seems like an awesome deal. If you wanted to purchase a bare bones individual plan in NY from a reputable company (assuming you aren't impoverished), it would be around $800-$1,200 a month, and that's for a high deductible plan.

If I remember correctly, the Penn plan is not high-deductible.


You have to go to student health first to anything. Then they refer you which always cost you a fee. I had the same doctor for years now I can't go there. For me (PA) comp plans would cost 1000 less.


Well if they're that cheap in PA I'm definitely checking them out!

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby r6_philly » Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:22 pm

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r6_philly wrote:
JamesDean1955 wrote:$3,500.00 for a year seems like an awesome deal. If you wanted to purchase a bare bones individual plan in NY from a reputable company (assuming you aren't impoverished), it would be around $800-$1,200 a month, and that's for a high deductible plan.

If I remember correctly, the Penn plan is not high-deductible.


You have to go to student health first to anything. Then they refer you which always cost you a fee. I had the same doctor for years now I can't go there. For me (PA) comp plans would cost 1000 less.


Well if they're that cheap in PA I'm definitely checking them out!

But they don't qualify for Penn's purposes even though they are better plans.

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby JamesDean1955 » Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:32 pm

Bummer. Do you need to get a referral every time you want to see a doctor, or just if you're seeing a new doctor they haven't referred yet?

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby PennBull » Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:33 pm

JamesDean1955 wrote:Bummer. Do you need to get a referral every time you want to see a doctor, or just if you're seeing a new doctor they haven't referred yet?


A referral for the first time you see them. The Penn Med doctors are perfectly competent, so for any basic physician needs you don't need a referral--just go to the student health center. You only need a referral for specialists (i.e. my knee surgeon).

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby Nelson » Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:19 pm

JamesDean1955 wrote:Bummer. Do you need to get a referral every time you want to see a doctor, or just if you're seeing a new doctor they haven't referred yet?

Yeah this really isn't a big deal unless you're like R6 and you're from the area with a doctor already. I haven't been to a doctor in years, so why would I care about having to go to the health center (as opposed to any other GP)? Esp. considering it's a few blocks from campus.

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby JamesDean1955 » Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:24 pm

Good to know, thanks guys!

Btw isn't this the dreaded time of year when everyone crams for finals? If so, then thanks for still taking the time to answer questions.

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby SportsFan » Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:34 pm

JamesDean1955 wrote:Good to know, thanks guys!

Btw isn't this the dreaded time of year when everyone crams for finals? If so, then thanks for still taking the time to answer questions.

Answering questions in this topic is one of my favorite distractions from studying haha. But yeah, finals are over the next 2 weeks (I think all of us 1L's have our first final on Tuesday).

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby PennBull » Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:01 pm

JamesDean1955 wrote:Good to know, thanks guys!

Btw isn't this the dreaded time of year when everyone crams for finals? If so, then thanks for still taking the time to answer questions.


I'm a 2L. DGAF. SportsFan and Nelson are 1Ls I'm pretty sure, they deserve a high five. Kick some ass guys. Hit me up for OCI tips if you want some help.

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby Nelson » Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:36 pm

JamesDean1955 wrote:Good to know, thanks guys!

Btw isn't this the dreaded time of year when everyone crams for finals? If so, then thanks for still taking the time to answer questions.

I'm not very good at being a 1L.

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby r6_philly » Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:49 am

And I'm very good at being a 2L!

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby JamesDean1955 » Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:53 am

I have a feeling I'd be great at being a 3L :lol: .

Although I'm interested in Federal clerkships, so that pretty much screws up my plans to slack off :?

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby Yardbird » Mon Apr 22, 2013 1:36 pm

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby SportsFan » Tue Apr 23, 2013 6:04 pm

Anyone know how long it typically takes them to get grades out for multiple choice exams? My last final (crim) is entirely multiple choice, and I guess I'm just a sucker for punishment, but as soon as that exam is over, I'm gonna want to get my grade. :lol: Unless my crim professor is insanely lazy, its not gonna take more than a week to get that grade back, right?

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby PennBull » Tue Apr 23, 2013 6:09 pm

SportsFan wrote:Anyone know how long it typically takes them to get grades out for multiple choice exams? My last final (crim) is entirely multiple choice, and I guess I'm just a sucker for punishment, but as soon as that exam is over, I'm gonna want to get my grade. :lol: Unless my crim professor is insanely lazy, its not gonna take more than a week to get that grade back, right?


Can't say one way or another. Once the professor gets the results back he still has to fit them into the curve, which he has discretion for on each segment of the curve. It's all up to him for when he wants to stop sipping a mint julep and writing whatever useless law review article or whatever and actually input the grades.

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby JamesDean1955 » Tue Apr 23, 2013 6:17 pm

PennBull wrote:
SportsFan wrote:Anyone know how long it typically takes them to get grades out for multiple choice exams? My last final (crim) is entirely multiple choice, and I guess I'm just a sucker for punishment, but as soon as that exam is over, I'm gonna want to get my grade. :lol: Unless my crim professor is insanely lazy, its not gonna take more than a week to get that grade back, right?


Can't say one way or another. Once the professor gets the results back he still has to fit them into the curve, which he has discretion for on each segment of the curve. It's all up to him for when he wants to stop sipping a mint julep and writing whatever useless law review article or whatever and actually input the grades.


Ah loving the Penn students' admiration for their Profs :lol:

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby PennBull » Tue Apr 23, 2013 6:21 pm

JamesDean1955 wrote:
PennBull wrote:Can't say one way or another. Once the professor gets the results back he still has to fit them into the curve, which he has discretion for on each segment of the curve. It's all up to him for when he wants to stop sipping a mint julep and writing whatever useless law review article or whatever and actually input the grades.


Ah loving the Penn students' admiration for their Profs :lol:


Most of them are absolutely awesome when it comes to class time and writing letters of rec and office hours and shit, but holy hell are they terrible at inputting grades.

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby Nelson » Tue Apr 23, 2013 6:21 pm

SportsFan wrote:Anyone know how long it typically takes them to get grades out for multiple choice exams? My last final (crim) is entirely multiple choice, and I guess I'm just a sucker for punishment, but as soon as that exam is over, I'm gonna want to get my grade. :lol: Unless my crim professor is insanely lazy, its not gonna take more than a week to get that grade back, right?

Are they not holding back the 1L grades and releasing them all at once like last semester?

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby PennBull » Tue Apr 23, 2013 6:24 pm

Nelson wrote:
SportsFan wrote:Anyone know how long it typically takes them to get grades out for multiple choice exams? My last final (crim) is entirely multiple choice, and I guess I'm just a sucker for punishment, but as soon as that exam is over, I'm gonna want to get my grade. :lol: Unless my crim professor is insanely lazy, its not gonna take more than a week to get that grade back, right?

Are they not holding back the 1L grades and releasing them all at once like last semester?


Last summer we got them in a random, slow disbursement over the course the last week of May and the first week of June.

Also you'll get FOUR fucking legal writing grades at random times, which will make you have the typical aneurism followed by wanting to chuck your computer out the window.

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby SportsFan » Tue Apr 23, 2013 6:25 pm

Nelson wrote:
SportsFan wrote:Anyone know how long it typically takes them to get grades out for multiple choice exams? My last final (crim) is entirely multiple choice, and I guess I'm just a sucker for punishment, but as soon as that exam is over, I'm gonna want to get my grade. :lol: Unless my crim professor is insanely lazy, its not gonna take more than a week to get that grade back, right?

Are they not holding back the 1L grades and releasing them all at once like last semester?

Not according to the emails they've sent so far. They're releasing grades as they get them. And thank god for that. Those 3 days last semester were miserable.

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby Nelson » Tue Apr 23, 2013 6:27 pm

PennBull wrote:
Nelson wrote:
SportsFan wrote:Anyone know how long it typically takes them to get grades out for multiple choice exams? My last final (crim) is entirely multiple choice, and I guess I'm just a sucker for punishment, but as soon as that exam is over, I'm gonna want to get my grade. :lol: Unless my crim professor is insanely lazy, its not gonna take more than a week to get that grade back, right?

Are they not holding back the 1L grades and releasing them all at once like last semester?


Last summer we got them in a random, slow disbursement over the course the last week of May and the first week of June.

Also you'll get FOUR fucking legal writing grades at random times, which will make you have the typical aneurism followed by wanting to chuck your computer out the window.

Four legal writing grades? WTF is that about?

Or do you just mean they release the grade four different times?

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby PennBull » Tue Apr 23, 2013 6:28 pm

Nelson wrote:Four legal writing grades? WTF is that about?

Or do you just mean they release the grade four different times?


You'll get a P/F for each semester in your lecture and your cohort section thing. And they're not released all at once like they should--they'll just be sent at random times throughout the two weeks.

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby JamesDean1955 » Tue Apr 23, 2013 6:32 pm

Do a lot of people ever fail legal writing? What impact would that have on OCI?

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby PennBull » Tue Apr 23, 2013 6:36 pm

JamesDean1955 wrote:Do a lot of people ever fail legal writing? What impact would that have on OCI?


I have never heard of it happening. They give you like 234723 warnings.

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby Nelson » Tue Apr 23, 2013 6:37 pm

JamesDean1955 wrote:Do a lot of people ever fail legal writing? What impact would that have on OCI?

I assume you can't graduate if you don't pass. But you'd have to literally fail to hand in assignments (not just hand in on time, just refuse to ever hand them in). As long as you make something that approximates a good faith effort, you'll pass.

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Re: Penn Students Taking Questions

Postby r6_philly » Tue Apr 23, 2013 7:34 pm

Nelson wrote:
JamesDean1955 wrote:Do a lot of people ever fail legal writing? What impact would that have on OCI?

I assume you can't graduate if you don't pass. But you'd have to literally fail to hand in assignments (not just hand in on time, just refuse to ever hand them in). As long as you make something that approximates a good faith effort, you'll pass.


I wonder if they will let you take additional classes if you fail LW. They will probably make sure you pass it some how some way.




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