where on the site are you looking? i'm lost and confusedsupahstahxruv wrote:Can any current students/residents speak to health insurance plans that are acceptable as substitutes for Penn's heath plan, which imho is ridiculously overpriced?
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the requirements are here: http://www.vpul.upenn.edu/shs/insurance.phpsonervous88 wrote:awhere on the site are you looking? i'm lost and confusedsupahstahxruv wrote:Can any current students/residents speak to health insurance plans that are acceptable as substitutes for Penn's heath plan, which imho is ridiculously overpriced?
and the premiums for the 11-12 year are here: http://www.vpul.upenn.edu/shs/insrates1112.php
works out to about $250/month...
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geezsupahstahxruv wrote:the requirements are here: http://www.vpul.upenn.edu/shs/insurance.phpsonervous88 wrote:awhere on the site are you looking? i'm lost and confusedsupahstahxruv wrote:Can any current students/residents speak to health insurance plans that are acceptable as substitutes for Penn's heath plan, which imho is ridiculously overpriced?
and the premiums for the 11-12 year are here: http://www.vpul.upenn.edu/shs/insrates1112.php
works out to about $250/month...
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I agree re: overpricedness!supahstahxruv wrote:Can any current students/residents speak to health insurance plans that are acceptable as substitutes for Penn's heath plan, which imho is ridiculously overpriced?
I never bought it. I had UnitedHealthcare (~90/mo) for two years but changed recently to Aetna (~70/mo and includes dental!). The Aetna site is pretty easy to use to look at plans and you can always call them to ask abut whether certain plans fulfill the Penn requirements. My United plan went up every couple months while Aetna has only gone down since I signed up. They do randomly verify your insurance meets their requirements (mine was checked once during the three years) and you should have some insurance just in case you're hit by a SEPTA bus or something, but Penn's plan is crazy. Keep in mind that you'll be charged an extra $200/year by Penn to have access to the student health center (not optional, convenient when you have a sore throat or some other minor ailment, the visit is free but they'll bill you the cost of x-rays or intense testing, I dont think they ever charged for strep tests or simple things like that...).
Let me know if you have other questions
Note: If you have ongoing health problems/preexisting conditions, it might be cheaper/better to have the Penn plan giving you access to all of Penn Med stuff. I rarely go to the doctor outside of my yearly visit which is why my plans are so cheap, quotes will differ depending on your medical history.
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Unless law school leads to the development of some serious health problems , the once-yearly plus when I have a cold is about all I need a plan to cover! Thanks Georgiana, you are a champ!Georgiana wrote:I agree re: overpricedness!supahstahxruv wrote:Can any current students/residents speak to health insurance plans that are acceptable as substitutes for Penn's heath plan, which imho is ridiculously overpriced?
I never bought it. I had UnitedHealthcare (~90/mo) for two years but changed recently to Aetna (~70/mo and includes dental!). The Aetna site is pretty easy to use to look at plans and you can always call them to ask abut whether certain plans fulfill the Penn requirements. My United plan went up every couple months while Aetna has only gone down since I signed up. They do randomly verify your insurance meets their requirements (mine was checked once during the three years) and you should have some insurance just in case you're hit by a SEPTA bus or something, but Penn's plan is crazy. Keep in mind that you'll be charged an extra $200/year by Penn to have access to the student health center (not optional, convenient when you have a sore throat or some other minor ailment, the visit is free but they'll bill you the cost of x-rays or intense testing, I dont think they ever charged for strep tests or simple things like that...).
Let me know if you have other questions
Note: If you have ongoing health problems/preexisting conditions, it might be cheaper/better to have the Penn plan giving you access to all of Penn Med stuff. I rarely go to the doctor outside of my yearly visit which is why my plans are so cheap, quotes will differ depending on your medical history.
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I'm looking into purchasing a new laptop for next year. Any recommendations: pc vs. mac?
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Tests are generally on laptops unless its MC. Buy whatever you're comfortable with, I'd say the split is pretty 50/50.beebee18 wrote:I'm looking into purchasing a new laptop for next year. Any recommendations: pc vs. mac?
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The United and Atena plans pass the benefit tests for waiver? That's pretty cheap. Some plans don't carry enough coverage so be careful with the plans you buy.Georgiana wrote:I agree re: overpricedness!supahstahxruv wrote:Can any current students/residents speak to health insurance plans that are acceptable as substitutes for Penn's heath plan, which imho is ridiculously overpriced?
I never bought it. I had UnitedHealthcare (~90/mo) for two years but changed recently to Aetna (~70/mo and includes dental!). The Aetna site is pretty easy to use to look at plans and you can always call them to ask abut whether certain plans fulfill the Penn requirements. My United plan went up every couple months while Aetna has only gone down since I signed up. They do randomly verify your insurance meets their requirements (mine was checked once during the three years) and you should have some insurance just in case you're hit by a SEPTA bus or something, but Penn's plan is crazy. Keep in mind that you'll be charged an extra $200/year by Penn to have access to the student health center (not optional, convenient when you have a sore throat or some other minor ailment, the visit is free but they'll bill you the cost of x-rays or intense testing, I dont think they ever charged for strep tests or simple things like that...).
Let me know if you have other questions
Note: If you have ongoing health problems/preexisting conditions, it might be cheaper/better to have the Penn plan giving you access to all of Penn Med stuff. I rarely go to the doctor outside of my yearly visit which is why my plans are so cheap, quotes will differ depending on your medical history.
Student health plan is overpriced for sure.
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The United one did bc I called and gave them my list of requirements (and thats the one I was audited on), I'm not sure whether my Aetna one does, but I didn't sign up for it until after fall semester started so it didn't matterr6_philly wrote:The United and Atena plans pass the benefit tests for waiver? That's pretty cheap. Some plans don't carry enough coverage so be careful with the plans you buy.
Student health plan is overpriced for sure.
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supahstahxruv wrote:Can any current students/residents speak to health insurance plans that are acceptable as substitutes for Penn's heath plan, which imho is ridiculously overpriced?
Ya, I went 1L w/o insurance (just put in old insurance info and was not audited), then got a cheap plan 2L which failed about 25% of their requirement test, from Aetna and was audited, yet still passed. My advice is get a cheap plan in Aug and apply for the waiver with it. They would have to drag me kicking and screaming on to their 2400$ plan.
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Well hello! I hope your summer is going as stress free as possibleunderachiever wrote:supahstahxruv wrote:Can any current students/residents speak to health insurance plans that are acceptable as substitutes for Penn's heath plan, which imho is ridiculously overpriced?
Ya, I went 1L w/o insurance (just put in old insurance info and was not audited), then got a cheap plan 2L which failed about 25% of their requirement test, from Aetna and was audited, yet still passed. My advice is get a cheap plan in Aug and apply for the waiver with it. They would have to drag me kicking and screaming on to their 2400$ plan.
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My plan does not consider HUP a part of my primary network so I can't go there for service, which was kind of annoying when Student Health send me referrals to HUP but I have to jump through hoops to get my insurance to honor it.underachiever wrote:supahstahxruv wrote:Can any current students/residents speak to health insurance plans that are acceptable as substitutes for Penn's heath plan, which imho is ridiculously overpriced?
Ya, I went 1L w/o insurance (just put in old insurance info and was not audited), then got a cheap plan 2L which failed about 25% of their requirement test, from Aetna and was audited, yet still passed. My advice is get a cheap plan in Aug and apply for the waiver with it. They would have to drag me kicking and screaming on to their 2400$ plan.
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If you go this route, how does it affect your student loans? Are you still offered the full student budget, or do they adjust it for your rate? I am a bit concerned about my student loan budget because their 8K rent allotment is lower than I will be paying, and this seems like a potential area for making up the difference .. aside from blanching at the cost of the Penn plan.underachiever wrote:supahstahxruv wrote:Can any current students/residents speak to health insurance plans that are acceptable as substitutes for Penn's heath plan, which imho is ridiculously overpriced?
Ya, I went 1L w/o insurance (just put in old insurance info and was not audited), then got a cheap plan 2L which failed about 25% of their requirement test, from Aetna and was audited, yet still passed. My advice is get a cheap plan in Aug and apply for the waiver with it. They would have to drag me kicking and screaming on to their 2400$ plan.
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SFS has a budget increase form, you can try to get your housing bumped. There is also a computer allowance that you can get without actually buying a computer.ayahara wrote:
If you go this route, how does it affect your student loans? Are you still offered the full student budget, or do they adjust it for your rate? I am a bit concerned about my student loan budget because their 8K rent allotment is lower than I will be paying, and this seems like a potential area for making up the difference .. aside from blanching at the cost of the Penn plan.
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The first year I increased my budget quite a bit (I have an irrational fear of not having cash to cover x, y, z catastrophe... I have a lot of irrational fears in life...). They don't adjust it based on your health insurance so there are savings there. The computer route is another one... you have to print out an invoice for a computer (not a receipt) and send it along with your budget increase request, I think it was $3k? I just picked an expensive Sony to tell them I wanted and it came close to the max (obv you can only do this once in the 3 years). I also sent in prices for internet and TV (when really I just tethered my cellphone and didn't have TV). I think I possibly even sent them my cellphone cost for increase... I don't remember if I went that far but knowing me, I did. They will also increase it if your rent is higher than their budget allows for. You just send in a copy of the lease with your rent amount and they'll adjust it.r6_philly wrote:SFS has a budget increase form, you can try to get your housing bumped. There is also a computer allowance that you can get without actually buying a computer.ayahara wrote:
If you go this route, how does it affect your student loans? Are you still offered the full student budget, or do they adjust it for your rate? I am a bit concerned about my student loan budget because their 8K rent allotment is lower than I will be paying, and this seems like a potential area for making up the difference .. aside from blanching at the cost of the Penn plan.
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Thanks for these suggestions, R6 and Georgiana! I have a pittance saved, which will get me through my first year budget excesses, but I feel much better knowing I can go these routes when I am depending on loans for everything thereafter.Georgiana wrote:The first year I increased my budget quite a bit (I have an irrational fear of not having cash to cover x, y, z catastrophe... I have a lot of irrational fears in life...). They don't adjust it based on your health insurance so there are savings there. The computer route is another one... you have to print out an invoice for a computer (not a receipt) and send it along with your budget increase request, I think it was $3k? I just picked an expensive Sony to tell them I wanted and it came close to the max (obv you can only do this once in the 3 years). I also sent in prices for internet and TV (when really I just tethered my cellphone and didn't have TV). I think I possibly even sent them my cellphone cost for increase... I don't remember if I went that far but knowing me, I did. They will also increase it if you rent is higher than their budget allows for. You just send in a copy of the lease with your rent amount and they'll adjust it.r6_philly wrote:SFS has a budget increase form, you can try to get your housing bumped. There is also a computer allowance that you can get without actually buying a computer.ayahara wrote:
If you go this route, how does it affect your student loans? Are you still offered the full student budget, or do they adjust it for your rate? I am a bit concerned about my student loan budget because their 8K rent allotment is lower than I will be paying, and this seems like a potential area for making up the difference .. aside from blanching at the cost of the Penn plan.
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Oh, and a semi-related thing I remembered that could be helpful for a few rising 2Ls out there... they'll reimburse (aka let you have more loans) for a certain amount of "interview expenses" which includes the need to purchase a suit or fly out for regional interviews and the like.
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I couldnt tell you, I never had to maxout or try and get the GradPlus loans. I would think you would still be offered the full amount (aka still getting $2400 or so for healthcare) and you could then use the money as you please.ayahara wrote:If you go this route, how does it affect your student loans? Are you still offered the full student budget, or do they adjust it for your rate? I am a bit concerned about my student loan budget because their 8K rent allotment is lower than I will be paying, and this seems like a potential area for making up the difference .. aside from blanching at the cost of the Penn plan.underachiever wrote:supahstahxruv wrote:Can any current students/residents speak to health insurance plans that are acceptable as substitutes for Penn's heath plan, which imho is ridiculously overpriced?
Ya, I went 1L w/o insurance (just put in old insurance info and was not audited), then got a cheap plan 2L which failed about 25% of their requirement test, from Aetna and was audited, yet still passed. My advice is get a cheap plan in Aug and apply for the waiver with it. They would have to drag me kicking and screaming on to their 2400$ plan.
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Oh yes! Not as much fun as studying for the Bar I hear, but good times nonetheless.Georgiana wrote: Well hello! I hope your summer is going as stress free as possible
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I still wonder who Georgiana and Underachiever are in real life.
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You guys are still be anonymous? I'd like to figure out who you all are.MC Southstar wrote:I still wonder who Georgiana and Underachiever are in real life.
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Hey dude, did you decide?r6_philly wrote:You guys are still be anonymous? I'd like to figure out who you all are.MC Southstar wrote:I still wonder who Georgiana and Underachiever are in real life.
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Under and I know each other in real lifer6_philly wrote:You guys are still be anonymous? I'd like to figure out who you all are.MC Southstar wrote:I still wonder who Georgiana and Underachiever are in real life.
I'm happy to have lunch/coffee/tea with folks who have questions or just want to chat about life (and don't want to kidnap/rape/murder me... again one of my irrational life fears) but I won't be making a huge announcement/self tar or anything.
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Huge announcement would probably be too much. Want to help me out with OCI tips?Georgiana wrote:Under and I know each other in real lifer6_philly wrote:You guys are still be anonymous? I'd like to figure out who you all are.MC Southstar wrote:I still wonder who Georgiana and Underachiever are in real life.
I'm happy to have lunch/coffee/tea with folks who have questions or just want to chat about life (and don't want to kidnap/rape/murder me... again one of my irrational life fears) but I won't be making a huge announcement/self tar or anything.
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Happy to help in any way I canMC Southstar wrote:Huge announcement would probably be too much. Want to help me out with OCI tips?Georgiana wrote:Under and I know each other in real lifer6_philly wrote:You guys are still be anonymous? I'd like to figure out who you all are.MC Southstar wrote:I still wonder who Georgiana and Underachiever are in real life.
I'm happy to have lunch/coffee/tea with folks who have questions or just want to chat about life (and don't want to kidnap/rape/murder me... again one of my irrational life fears) but I won't be making a huge announcement/self tar or anything.
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