Texas Tech Rank, why so low?

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Texas Tech Rank, why so low?

Postby brunho1313 » Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:07 pm

Why is Texas Tech's ranking so low, they seem like a really good law school given the starting salary, descent placement record, bar passage rate and cost of attendance?

Should one go to T70 at full cost over Texas Tech (50% Scholarship)? Any thoughts would be much appreciated.

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Re: Texas Tech Rank, why so low?

Postby coolkatz321 » Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:09 pm

brunho1313 wrote:Why is Texas Tech's ranking so low, they seem like a really good law school given the starting salary, descent placement record, bar passage rate and cost of attendance?

Should one go to T70 at full cost over Texas Tech (50% Scholarship)? Any thoughts would be much appreciated.


Define T70 (i.e. What school?)

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Re: Texas Tech Rank, why so low?

Postby brunho1313 » Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:11 pm

Indiana/Indianapolis and Lewis & Clark

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Re: Texas Tech Rank, why so low?

Postby jdn012 » Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:13 pm

what do you want to do with your degree and where do you want to practice? You will probably have to stay in Texas with a Tech degree, maybe a few places in Oklahoma, very limited as to where you can go.

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Re: Texas Tech Rank, why so low?

Postby michael_2013 » Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:15 pm

where are you looking to practice? All of these schools are quite regional. I would say go with the school that you wouldn't mind working near for the next 5 years after graduating. Personally I enjoy Portland so I would go for L&C.

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Re: Texas Tech Rank, why so low?

Postby brunho1313 » Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:18 pm

The ideal job would be a D.A. somewhere in the south or west coast. Right now I’m in the Midwest and if I see another snowflake I think I will lose my Sh*&.

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Re: Texas Tech Rank, why so low?

Postby jdn012 » Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:21 pm

Maybe, if you can, visit the schools and make your decision from there. Tech is known for having a nice campus for a public school, but it is in Lubbock, which is far from the population centers in TX. As far as snow goes, I'm sure N. Texas gets snow from time to time, although nothing like the midwest.

Also, are there any stipulations attached to your scholarship from tech? (like, you have to stay in the top 25%, make a 3.0, etc.)

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Re: Texas Tech Rank, why so low?

Postby brunho1313 » Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:30 pm

There are always stipulations, above 3.0

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Re: Texas Tech Rank, why so low?

Postby srb » Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:33 pm

brunho1313 wrote:Why is Texas Tech's ranking so low, they seem like a really good law school given the starting salary, descent placement record, bar passage rate and cost of attendance?

Should one go to T70 at full cost over Texas Tech (50% Scholarship)? Any thoughts would be much appreciated.


Because it's in Lubbock. /thread.

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Re: Texas Tech Rank, why so low?

Postby lawkid786 » Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:36 pm

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Re: Texas Tech Rank, why so low?

Postby srb » Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:38 pm

lawkid786 wrote:I am having this dilemma as well...

might end up having to choose between Syracuse and Texas Tech. Ideally, I want to work in Texas...

These two are at opposite ends of the spectrum when it comes to $$$. Locally, your average person regards Syracuse as an incredible school (because of the name) and advise me to choose it over Texas Tech, just another public school in Texas.


If you want to work in Texas go to Tech. Syracuse will mean nothing down here.

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Re: Texas Tech Rank, why so low?

Postby awesomepossum » Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:39 pm

lawkid786 wrote:I am having this dilemma as well...

might end up having to choose between Syracuse and Texas Tech. Ideally, I want to work in Texas...

These two are at opposite ends of the spectrum when it comes to $$$. Locally, your average person regards Syracuse as an incredible school (because of the name) and advise me to choose it over Texas Tech, just another public school in Texas.



I used to live around there and I don't know if even locally the Syracuse name is that great unless you're on the basketball team.

If you want to work in Texas, I'd be really surprised if the Syracuse name does anything for you.

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Re: Texas Tech Rank, why so low?

Postby thexfactor » Thu Feb 19, 2009 8:32 pm

lawkid786 wrote:I am having this dilemma as well...

might end up having to choose between Syracuse and Texas Tech. Ideally, I want to work in Texas...

These two are at opposite ends of the spectrum when it comes to $$$. Locally, your average person regards Syracuse as an incredible school (because of the name) and advise me to choose it over Texas Tech, just another public school in Texas.


The problem is the fact that an "average person" will not be hiring you. Go to Texas Tech. Syracuse is not worth the money. Too much money for mediocre employment statistics. Syracuse also has terrible weather.

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Re: Texas Tech Rank, why so low?

Postby efineman » Fri Feb 20, 2009 11:14 pm

Clearly anecdotal, not representative, yada yada yada:

Friend went to tech law and grad a few years ago. Works in China doing international human right s law. Didn't graduate top of her class or anything, just did well. Biggest thing is she really tried to get the job. She didn't even speak chinese before going. Anyway just shows you if you put in the effort you can get a job you want. No golden ticket from Yale or anything.

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Re: Texas Tech Rank, why so low?

Postby A'nold » Fri Feb 20, 2009 11:19 pm

Please oh please do not make the mistake of choosing IU-Indy or L&C over Tech if you want to work in the Southeast. Geesh USNWR has tainted the minds of the masses!

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Re: Texas Tech Rank, why so low?

Postby Zojirushi » Sat Feb 21, 2009 4:01 pm

Its true, there should be a disclaimer on USNWR saying that top 25 is accurate +/- 3 and outside of that they are useless, ie regional. TT is great if you want to work in Texas.

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Re: Texas Tech Rank, why so low?

Postby art vandelay » Sat Feb 21, 2009 4:07 pm

brunho1313 wrote:Indiana/Indianapolis and Lewis & Clark


Tech w/ $ over these schools? Every day of the week.

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Re: Texas Tech Rank, why so low?

Postby art vandelay » Sat Feb 21, 2009 4:09 pm

dychen85 wrote:
lawkid786 wrote:I am having this dilemma as well...

might end up having to choose between Syracuse and Texas Tech. Ideally, I want to work in Texas...

These two are at opposite ends of the spectrum when it comes to $$$. Locally, your average person regards Syracuse as an incredible school (because of the name) and advise me to choose it over Texas Tech, just another public school in Texas.


The problem is the fact that an "average person" will not be hiring you. Go to Texas Tech. Syracuse is not worth the money. Too much money for mediocre employment statistics. Syracuse also has terrible weather.


Ditto. The average person is a retard anyway. Especially if you have a scholly, go to TTU.

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Re: Texas Tech Rank, why so low?

Postby YellowRose » Mon Feb 23, 2009 4:35 am

Research Lubbock and make sure you think you'd be ok living here.

Cons: It is voted over and over as the most conservative town of its size in the US. It's quite a culture shock for someone who isn't used to Wednesday nigh being reserved for bible study. It's 5 hours away from Dallas (closest place for a rock concert or a good museum exhibit). It is not culturally diverse by any standards. It smells like shit when the wind blows from a particular direction because of the farm fields on the outskirts of town. It has notorious dust storms during the Spring semester.

Pro: the cost of living is outrageously low (I pay 250 in rent, all bills included) and the weather is pleasant. It snows once or twice a year. Tech football is quite entertaining as it is one of the few things to do during the fall semester. People are very friendly. The campus really is nice with great facilities and a substantial amount of activities (plays, performances, free movies, etc.)

I attended Texas Tech as an undergraduate and am currently in graduate school (I also took a class at the law school my junior year). I received a full ride to Tech Law, laughed and threw the letter away. However, if you want to practice in West Texas or Dallas, you'll have a degree and probably pass the bar. Whether you'll enjoy your time here is a different story. The general opinion from local firms is that Tech prepares students very fell for the actual day to day undertaking of a lawyer and doesn't focus on the ideologies of law. It's very practical (probably why the bar rate is so high, but not very academic). I hope that makes sense.

PM if you have any specific questions about either Tech or Lubbock in general.

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Re: Texas Tech Rank, why so low?

Postby JD2008 » Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:00 pm

Here is a law blog from a Texas Tech law student. It has posts on law in Texas and TT in general.

http://resipsablog.com/

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Re: Texas Tech Rank, why so low?

Postby cqphan89 » Thu Mar 19, 2009 9:06 am

This is coming late. But I graduated from Tech in August (undergrad). But I'm well acquainted with the law school and Dean of Admissions and actually the area all together and job market, etc. I did national fundraising and recruiting for the school so I know the perception of the university and different programs, etc. I'm buddies with Chancellor Hance and can tell you about the vision and the plans for the future of the school.

If you have any questions about anything, concerns, want my two cents please PM me. I would be glad to answer anything you have. I don't have time right now to go into detail about the lower rankings and potential of the school, pro/con etc. But if you PM me specific questions, your situation, I can help.

I have a slightly different perspective than the standard student. I'm a minority born and raised in southern California. Just PM me.

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Re: Texas Tech Rank, why so low?

Postby Kohinoor » Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:09 pm

brunho1313 wrote:Why is Texas Tech's ranking so low.
Because it's a bad school. hth

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Re: Texas Tech Rank, why so low?

Postby Bosque » Sun Mar 22, 2009 5:51 pm

I am at Texas Tech right now for undergrad electrical engineering. I don't really have much to tell you about the law school though, as I never really considered staying here for it. Texas Tech is really an undergraduate teaching institution. All of my professors in my degree and in the honors college courses I have taken have been fantastic. For an undergraduate engineering education Tech is hard to beat. However, up until recently we have been sorely underfunded for graduate research (except the animal sciences department, which has always been rolling in the dough). Electrical engineering (and the Whitacre College of Engineering in general) has very recently had a large influx of funding, largely related to that shiny new name we have. So the graduate program here is finally on the rise. I wouldn't be surprised to see us (as in EE, not the university as a whole) in the top 40 or so in the next few years.

However, none of that cheery good news effects you. The law program seems to be good, but certainly regional. I wouldn't expect to get much further west than Fort Sumner or Santa Rosa with it, nor much further east than the Alabama state line. If that is where you want to end up anyway, I would not even really consider Syracuse. Most people down here will have no clue it is even a school. (I am probably not the best resource for information on the law school though.)

If you have any questions about the school in general, pm me.

PS-The campus is great, but Lubbock is... Lubbock. I hated it at first, but since then I have grown to tolerate it. Even so, I have no strong desire to ever live here again once I graduate. Just be aware.

EDIT: Also, I forgot to mention that Tech has a surprising number of ties to foreign institutions. If you want to study or work abroad for some amount of time, they can probably hook you up.

Also, I wanted to say how pleasantly surprised I am by the number of other former Tech students there are on here. Guns up folks!

EDITEDIT: On second thought, lets extend that range to Albuquerque, possibly Flagstaff on the west side and possibly as far as Alabama on the east. As for North south approximate ranges, I wanna say Mexican border up to... Kansas? I am not really sure about that one. Maybe one of my compatriots knows better.

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Re: Texas Tech Rank, why so low?

Postby txag_09 » Tue Mar 24, 2009 1:59 am

TTU is rated low because there is an inverse relationship between rank and STD rate.

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Re: Texas Tech Rank, why so low?

Postby LamontSanford » Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:46 am

txag_09 wrote:TTU is rated low because there is an inverse relationship between rank and STD rate.


calm down son, you're trying too hard.




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