Thomas Jefferson in San Diego

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Re: Thomas Jefferson in San Diego

Postby CE2JD » Wed Mar 04, 2009 6:47 pm

jcl2 wrote:Sorry, that is not related to the law school at all, I just found that quote and felt the urge to post it somewhere.


I think UVA was founded by Thomas Jefferson.

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Re: Thomas Jefferson in San Diego

Postby jcl2 » Wed Mar 04, 2009 6:56 pm

CE2JD wrote:
jcl2 wrote:Sorry, that is not related to the law school at all, I just found that quote and felt the urge to post it somewhere.


I think UVA was founded by Thomas Jefferson.


I think you are right, are you suggested that I should have posted that quote on a UVA thread?

I would definitely consider attending the school that Thomas Jefferson founded, but not the one named after him :)

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Re: Thomas Jefferson in San Diego

Postby Mulliganstew » Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:59 pm

iliketothinkiamcool wrote:. So I mean it is possible to get a job after you graduate from TJ, although I imagine you need to be ranked Top 10%?


You honestly believe the employment rate for TJ is 10%? :shock:

This is the kind of idiocy that is bred on these boards. :lol:

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Re: Thomas Jefferson in San Diego

Postby Palma » Fri Mar 06, 2009 12:15 pm

Mulliganstew wrote:
iliketothinkiamcool wrote:. So I mean it is possible to get a job after you graduate from TJ, although I imagine you need to be ranked Top 10%?


You honestly believe the employment rate for TJ is 10%? :shock:

This is the kind of idiocy that is bred on these boards. :lol:



I would read that quote again...he is meaning you need to place in the top 10% of the class to get a job. Not that the employment rate is is 10%...hmmm idiocy indeed.

As for TJ the ABA data tells the story, their attrition rate is horrible and also they have a large number that transfer out.
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Re: Thomas Jefferson in San Diego

Postby Teapot » Fri Mar 06, 2009 2:04 pm

Palma wrote:
Mulliganstew wrote:
iliketothinkiamcool wrote:. So I mean it is possible to get a job after you graduate from TJ, although I imagine you need to be ranked Top 10%?


You honestly believe the employment rate for TJ is 10%? :shock:

This is the kind of idiocy that is bred on these boards. :lol:



I would read that quote again...he is meaning you need to place in the top 10% of the class to a job. Not that the employment rate is is 10%...hmmm idiocy indeed.

As for TJ the ABA data tells the story, their attrition rate is horrible and also they have a large number that transfer out.

if only the top ten percent get jobs, how is the employment rate not ten percent? attrition rate and transfers do not tell the story, they make up part of it and yes, one must be aware these numbers, but they do not tell the story.

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Re: Thomas Jefferson in San Diego

Postby Trollsniffer » Fri Mar 06, 2009 2:15 pm

It's the bottom of the barrel. Don't go there unless you have no other options and someone else is paying for it. Even then, question why you are going to law school with such poor credentials. Law school is not an entitlement.

It will likely be life altering, debt crippling experience to go to TJ. I would suggest that perhaps the top 5 - 10 people in each class have a shot a decent job.

It makes USD look good, and that's a TTT. Seriously, don't delude yourself into thinking this is a "top" law school. It's a diploma mill.

In terms of employment stats, top 10% getting jobs means biglaw jobs. But at TJ maybe 5 or 10 people in entire class might have a chance at biglaw. The rest of the "employment" can be anything. In other words, if you make $20,000 a year for a slip and fall lawyer it counts. If you work at a Starbuck's, it counts. If you work as a temp making copies it counts. Any type of employment counts as employed at graduation.

But at a 4th tier school like TJ, the opportunity for high paying biglaw jobs is almost non-existent. In other words, it is a waste of money for at least 98% of the people that enroll there. If you transfer out, then perhaps you have a shot at a decent job.

But why bother? If you can only get into TJ, you should not be going to law school.
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Re: Thomas Jefferson in San Diego

Postby pany1985 » Fri Mar 06, 2009 2:20 pm

I hope UC Irvine will do a good job of crowding some of these crap schools* out of the OC-down-to-San-Diego market



*CA Western and Chapman and Thomas Jefferson and Western State and Whittier (plus all the jive non-ABA approved schools), and to a slightly lesser extent, USD and Santa Clara

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Re: Thomas Jefferson in San Diego

Postby Palma » Fri Mar 06, 2009 2:40 pm

Source: USNWR

Careers : Thomas Jefferson School of Law

School's bar passage rate in jurisdiction 54.5 % <-------Important
CA State Bar Passage rate 2008 July 61.7% February 39.6%
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Jurisdiction's overall bar passage rate (summer 2006 and winter 2007) 1 %

2006 Total graduates 278
2006 full-time graduates employed at graduation N/A
2006 full-time graduates known to be employed nine months after graduation 80.0 %

Starting Salaries 2006 Graduates

Private-sector starting salary (25th-75th percentile) $40,000
Private sector starting salary (75th percentile) $65,000
Median in the private sector $54,000
Percent in the private sector who reported salary information 36 %
Median in public service $49,500

Legal Qualifications for Job Type 2006 Graduates

Bar admission required or anticipated (e.g., attorney and corporate counsel positions, law clerks, judicial clerks) 60.0 %
J.D. preferred, law degree enhances position (e.g., corporate contracts administrator, alternative dispute resolution specialist, government regulatory analyst, FBI special agent) 14 %
Professional/other (jobs that require professional skills or training but for which a J.D. is neither preferred nor particularly applicable; e.g., accountant, teacher, business manager, nurse) 20 % <--Important
Nonprofessional/other (job that does not require any professional skills or training or is taken on a temporary basis and not viewed as part of a career path) 6 %


Correct me if I am wrong, but the possiblity of having the top 10% get jobs means it is 10% or less not exactly 10%.

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Re: Thomas Jefferson in San Diego

Postby iliketothinkiamcool » Mon Mar 09, 2009 1:51 am

TJ has a youtube page where one of their professors gives law school tips. I for one think his pointers/tips are great!

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Re: Thomas Jefferson in San Diego

Postby JDO » Mon Mar 22, 2010 4:55 pm

Palma wrote:
Mulliganstew wrote:
iliketothinkiamcool wrote:. ...As for TJ the ABA data tells the story, their attrition rate is horrible and also they have a large number that transfer out.


Do you know anything about these people who are transferring out? Whether they become successful or not? What schools they usually transfer to...?

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Re: Thomas Jefferson in San Diego

Postby A.Taarabt7 » Sat Jan 17, 2015 6:47 am

Teapot wrote:Yeah I was wondering the same thing. Thomas Jefferson is a no name, but i'd go there over USD if they gave me money.


big mistake dummy

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Re: Thomas Jefferson in San Diego

Postby A. Nony Mouse » Sat Jan 17, 2015 6:49 am

I don't think anyone from 2010 is still interested in new perspectives on this. Don't necro old threads.




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