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Re: Wake Law Students taking Questions!!!

Postby leidice » Mon Apr 04, 2011 10:34 pm

NCtoDC wrote:
leidice wrote:Any clubs?? :mrgreen:


yeah, the 2L at our table said there were some decent dance clubs. I want specific names :-)


Me too!

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Re: Wake Law Students taking Questions!!!

Postby tstyler98 » Tue Apr 05, 2011 10:07 am

girlonfire wrote:
YankeesFan wrote:Hey tstyler, what bar has free pool?

and trivia!!


Break Time Billiards on University has free pool from 5-7 (every night I think, but not sure...definitely on Friday).

I know Foothills Brewery, which is downtown, has trivia. I'm not sure which nights.

I haven't been to any clubs, so I can't help you there.

And if you want to go old school, there is a skating rink. We went at the beginning of the semester for a friend's birthday.

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Re: Wake Law Students taking Questions!!!

Postby jdemmitt » Tue Apr 05, 2011 10:26 am

tstyler98 wrote:
girlonfire wrote:
YankeesFan wrote:Hey tstyler, what bar has free pool?

and trivia!!


Break Time Billiards on University has free pool from 5-7 (every night I think, but not sure...definitely on Friday).

I know Foothills Brewery, which is downtown, has trivia. I'm not sure which nights.

I haven't been to any clubs, so I can't help you there.

And if you want to go old school, there is a skating rink. We went at the beginning of the semester for a friend's birthday.


Wait, ice skating or roller skating? Or both?

Also, how many movie theatres in town?

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Re: Wake Law Students taking Questions!!!

Postby NCtoDC » Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:12 pm

So, the tour guide at the last ASD mentioned a service you can pay (a couple hundred bucks) and they teach you how to take a law school exam. Is this something that is common, or even necessary?

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Re: Wake Law Students taking Questions!!!

Postby SteelyDan » Tue Apr 05, 2011 1:09 pm

NCtoDC wrote:So, the tour guide at the last ASD mentioned a service you can pay (a couple hundred bucks) and they teach you how to take a law school exam. Is this something that is common, or even necessary?

I don't know what the school itself offers, but I've heard a lot of good things about LEEWS... I'll probably look into taking it in the Fall.

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Re: Wake Law Students taking Questions!!!

Postby PirateCap'n » Tue Apr 05, 2011 5:17 pm

NCtoDC wrote:So, the tour guide at the last ASD mentioned a service you can pay (a couple hundred bucks) and they teach you how to take a law school exam. Is this something that is common, or even necessary?


There is a program called ASP (no idea what it stands for). I think it's divided into Thursday Night Group and then small groups of about 10 people. The Thursday night group is limited to about 20 students (I think. I know it's limited, but I'm not sure about the number). I think most anyone can be in the small groups that are lead by upperclassmen. The Thursday Night group gives you sample exams and has you write out answers to them and reviews 1L subjects too. The small groups are mostly limited to simply reviewing the information from 1L courses. I don't know anything about paying extra to be in either one of them. I'm not in either, but I assumed that the costs were included in tuition. The people who do it seem to like it, but I think it takes up a good bit of time. Either way, it's definitely not necessary, but it might be helpful if you don't think you'll do well on exams.

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Re: Wake Law Students taking Questions!!!

Postby NCtoDC » Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:44 pm

PirateCap'n wrote:
NCtoDC wrote:So, the tour guide at the last ASD mentioned a service you can pay (a couple hundred bucks) and they teach you how to take a law school exam. Is this something that is common, or even necessary?


There is a program called ASP (no idea what it stands for). I think it's divided into Thursday Night Group and then small groups of about 10 people. The Thursday night group is limited to about 20 students (I think. I know it's limited, but I'm not sure about the number). I think most anyone can be in the small groups that are lead by upperclassmen. The Thursday Night group gives you sample exams and has you write out answers to them and reviews 1L subjects too. The small groups are mostly limited to simply reviewing the information from 1L courses. I don't know anything about paying extra to be in either one of them. I'm not in either, but I assumed that the costs were included in tuition. The people who do it seem to like it, but I think it takes up a good bit of time. Either way, it's definitely not necessary, but it might be helpful if you don't think you'll do well on exams.


Hmmm...this is good to know. But, he was speaking of a company that guaranteed you B's or better on your exams or your money back. I can't remember the name of it. I don't think I'd pay for something like that, but the group thing you are talking about sounds cool if its free.

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Re: Wake Law Students taking Questions!!!

Postby PirateCap'n » Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:51 pm

NCtoDC wrote:
PirateCap'n wrote:
NCtoDC wrote:So, the tour guide at the last ASD mentioned a service you can pay (a couple hundred bucks) and they teach you how to take a law school exam. Is this something that is common, or even necessary?


There is a program called ASP (no idea what it stands for). I think it's divided into Thursday Night Group and then small groups of about 10 people. The Thursday night group is limited to about 20 students (I think. I know it's limited, but I'm not sure about the number). I think most anyone can be in the small groups that are lead by upperclassmen. The Thursday Night group gives you sample exams and has you write out answers to them and reviews 1L subjects too. The small groups are mostly limited to simply reviewing the information from 1L courses. I don't know anything about paying extra to be in either one of them. I'm not in either, but I assumed that the costs were included in tuition. The people who do it seem to like it, but I think it takes up a good bit of time. Either way, it's definitely not necessary, but it might be helpful if you don't think you'll do well on exams.


Hmmm...this is good to know. But, he was speaking of a company that guaranteed you B's or better on your exams or your money back. I can't remember the name of it. I don't think I'd pay for something like that, but the group thing you are talking about sounds cool if its free.


I'm pretty sure what you're talking about and what SteelyDan is talking about are the same thing (LEEWS). Other TLS posters talk about it pretty frequently. You pay for the LEEWS information, and it's supposed to teach you how to take an exam. If you don't get at least a B/B-, they refund your money. That's not sponsored by the school though. It's just a company that sells that information at practically every law school in the country. No idea if it actually works.

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Re: Wake Law Students taking Questions!!!

Postby jdemmitt » Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:56 pm

That sounds like steelydan's link.

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Re: Wake Law Students taking Questions!!!

Postby Nicholasnickynic » Wed Apr 06, 2011 12:10 am

West End Opera House- Bar with Generous (and I mean generous) pours.
Free Billiards.
Free Darts. ---> Darts = win! Never knew that till i started going to west end opera house.

Foothills brewery- trivia nights on Thursday. They take it very seriously. Like if they catch you with a cell phone, they disqualify your team, you can't participate if you are on the patio (they can't monitor you the whole time) etc.

All the bars close at 2am (thats when they are no longer allowed to sell liquor).
Burke Street Pizza- stays open till 3 a.m. Go there. I can say, w/o exageration, best pizza of my life. Granted, I've only ever eaten pizza in nc/va/penn... but I think that's still saying something.

There's a movie theatre that shows indie and/or award winning films... and you can buy alcohol and drink it there <3. Nothing quite like watching some king's speech and getting your buzz on.

back to work for this guy.

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Re: Wake Law Students taking Questions!!!

Postby Nicholasnickynic » Wed Apr 06, 2011 12:13 am

NCtoDC wrote:
PirateCap'n wrote:
NCtoDC wrote:So, the tour guide at the last ASD mentioned a service you can pay (a couple hundred bucks) and they teach you how to take a law school exam. Is this something that is common, or even necessary?


There is a program called ASP (no idea what it stands for). I think it's divided into Thursday Night Group and then small groups of about 10 people. The Thursday night group is limited to about 20 students (I think. I know it's limited, but I'm not sure about the number). I think most anyone can be in the small groups that are lead by upperclassmen. The Thursday Night group gives you sample exams and has you write out answers to them and reviews 1L subjects too. The small groups are mostly limited to simply reviewing the information from 1L courses. I don't know anything about paying extra to be in either one of them. I'm not in either, but I assumed that the costs were included in tuition. The people who do it seem to like it, but I think it takes up a good bit of time. Either way, it's definitely not necessary, but it might be helpful if you don't think you'll do well on exams.

Hmmm...this is good to know. But, he was speaking of a company that guaranteed you B's or better on your exams or your money back. I can't remember the name of it. I don't think I'd pay for something like that, but the group thing you are talking about sounds cool if its free.


ASP= Academic Success Program. 1st semester its for people who they think might struggle grade wise- married, dyslexic, non-traditional student etc. Afterwards, its for the people who are at the bottom of the class.

I particpated (dyslexic and married). It was kinda helpful. I wasn't asked back, so thats a good thing.

Anyoen can sign up for the small groups. They are taught by a student who previously aced the course. I'm taking one for contracts this semester and am finding it very helpful.
Okay, really, I needa do work.

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Re: Wake Law Students taking Questions!!!

Postby tstyler98 » Wed Apr 06, 2011 9:05 am

jdemmitt wrote:
tstyler98 wrote:
girlonfire wrote:
YankeesFan wrote:Hey tstyler, what bar has free pool?

and trivia!!


Break Time Billiards on University has free pool from 5-7 (every night I think, but not sure...definitely on Friday).

I know Foothills Brewery, which is downtown, has trivia. I'm not sure which nights.

I haven't been to any clubs, so I can't help you there.

And if you want to go old school, there is a skating rink. We went at the beginning of the semester for a friend's birthday.


Wait, ice skating or roller skating? Or both?

Also, how many movie theatres in town?


Both, although I've only done the roller skating. There is ice skating at/near the Joel Coliseum (where Wake basketball games are).

I'm not sure the exact number of movie theaters, but there are at least a few.

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Re: Wake Law Students taking Questions!!!

Postby tstyler98 » Wed Apr 06, 2011 9:13 am

Nicholasnickynic wrote:
NCtoDC wrote:
PirateCap'n wrote:
NCtoDC wrote:So, the tour guide at the last ASD mentioned a service you can pay (a couple hundred bucks) and they teach you how to take a law school exam. Is this something that is common, or even necessary?


There is a program called ASP (no idea what it stands for). I think it's divided into Thursday Night Group and then small groups of about 10 people. The Thursday night group is limited to about 20 students (I think. I know it's limited, but I'm not sure about the number). I think most anyone can be in the small groups that are lead by upperclassmen. The Thursday Night group gives you sample exams and has you write out answers to them and reviews 1L subjects too. The small groups are mostly limited to simply reviewing the information from 1L courses. I don't know anything about paying extra to be in either one of them. I'm not in either, but I assumed that the costs were included in tuition. The people who do it seem to like it, but I think it takes up a good bit of time. Either way, it's definitely not necessary, but it might be helpful if you don't think you'll do well on exams.

Hmmm...this is good to know. But, he was speaking of a company that guaranteed you B's or better on your exams or your money back. I can't remember the name of it. I don't think I'd pay for something like that, but the group thing you are talking about sounds cool if its free.


ASP= Academic Success Program. 1st semester its for people who they think might struggle grade wise- married, dyslexic, non-traditional student etc. Afterwards, its for the people who are at the bottom of the class.

I particpated (dyslexic and married). It was kinda helpful. I wasn't asked back, so thats a good thing.

Anyoen can sign up for the small groups. They are taught by a student who previously aced the course. I'm taking one for contracts this semester and am finding it very helpful.
Okay, really, I needa do work.


I did an ASP small group for Contracts last semester. We met once a week for 6-8 weeks. Usually the leader of the group (a student who did well in the class) gave us practice multiple choice questions or a practice essay question. Sometimes we took it home and she would review it. One time, the practice essay question was timed under real testing conditions (meaning no notes or anything for my professor), and she reviewed and critiqued it. I did pretty well in the class overall, and I think doing the small group helped. You can only sign up for one class each semester, but a few people got together and each signed up for a group and then shared what they learned.

There are also various resources that can help with preparing to study. A group of professors had a session about preparing for and taking exams. Some of the student groups had information sessions (although some where only open to members). For example, PAD (Phi Alpha Delta, a legal fraternity, which runs the House Hunt) had an information session for its members that discussed course-by-course, professor-by-professor what the professor looks for in their exams. You have to pay about $70 to be a member, but getting this advice was invaluable (especially if you end up with Walker for Civil Procedure). Another resource is to talk with 2Ls and 3Ls and ask them about taking your professor's exam. My TA's for Legal Writing gave us a lot of information, but most upper-level students are willing to help.

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Re: Wake Law Students taking Questions!!!

Postby NCtoDC » Wed Apr 06, 2011 9:16 am

There are also various resources that can help with preparing to study. A group of professors had a session about preparing for and taking exams. Some of the student groups had information sessions (although some where only open to members). For example, PAD (Phi Alpha Delta, a legal fraternity, which runs the House Hunt) had an information session for its members that discussed course-by-course, professor-by-professor what the professor looks for in their exams. You have to pay about $70 to be a member, but getting this advice was invaluable (especially if you end up with Walker for Civil Procedure). Another resource is to talk with 2Ls and 3Ls and ask them about taking your professor's exam. My TA's for Legal Writing gave us a lot of information, but most upper-level students are willing to help.[/quote]


Awesome! Thanks for all the info everyone.

TSTyler: what other things does PAD do?

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Re: Wake Law Students taking Questions!!!

Postby tstyler98 » Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:02 am

NCtoDC wrote:
tstyler wrote:There are also various resources that can help with preparing to study. A group of professors had a session about preparing for and taking exams. Some of the student groups had information sessions (although some where only open to members). For example, PAD (Phi Alpha Delta, a legal fraternity, which runs the House Hunt) had an information session for its members that discussed course-by-course, professor-by-professor what the professor looks for in their exams. You have to pay about $70 to be a member, but getting this advice was invaluable (especially if you end up with Walker for Civil Procedure). Another resource is to talk with 2Ls and 3Ls and ask them about taking your professor's exam. My TA's for Legal Writing gave us a lot of information, but most upper-level students are willing to help.



Awesome! Thanks for all the info everyone.

TSTyler: what other things does PAD do?


We didn't really end up doing a whole lot this year. I think they were trying to do a 5k to raise money for a charity or something, but it didn't work out. I think a lot of people do it to have it on their resume.

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Re: Wake Law Students taking Questions!!!

Postby jdemmitt » Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:10 am

tstyler98 wrote:
NCtoDC wrote:
tstyler wrote:There are also various resources that can help with preparing to study. A group of professors had a session about preparing for and taking exams. Some of the student groups had information sessions (although some where only open to members). For example, PAD (Phi Alpha Delta, a legal fraternity, which runs the House Hunt) had an information session for its members that discussed course-by-course, professor-by-professor what the professor looks for in their exams. You have to pay about $70 to be a member, but getting this advice was invaluable (especially if you end up with Walker for Civil Procedure). Another resource is to talk with 2Ls and 3Ls and ask them about taking your professor's exam. My TA's for Legal Writing gave us a lot of information, but most upper-level students are willing to help.



Awesome! Thanks for all the info everyone.

TSTyler: what other things does PAD do?


We didn't really end up doing a whole lot this year. I think they were trying to do a 5k to raise money for a charity or something, but it didn't work out. I think a lot of people do it to have it on their resume.

How much are dues/fees to join PAD and is there a pledge/rush week or is it simply sign, pay, hooray!

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Re: Wake Law Students taking Questions!!!

Postby NCtoDC » Wed Apr 06, 2011 12:21 pm

jdemmitt wrote:
tstyler98 wrote:
NCtoDC wrote:
tstyler wrote:There are also various resources that can help with preparing to study. A group of professors had a session about preparing for and taking exams. Some of the student groups had information sessions (although some where only open to members). For example, PAD (Phi Alpha Delta, a legal fraternity, which runs the House Hunt) had an information session for its members that discussed course-by-course, professor-by-professor what the professor looks for in their exams. You have to pay about $70 to be a member, but getting this advice was invaluable (especially if you end up with Walker for Civil Procedure). Another resource is to talk with 2Ls and 3Ls and ask them about taking your professor's exam. My TA's for Legal Writing gave us a lot of information, but most upper-level students are willing to help.



Awesome! Thanks for all the info everyone.

TSTyler: what other things does PAD do?


We didn't really end up doing a whole lot this year. I think they were trying to do a 5k to raise money for a charity or something, but it didn't work out. I think a lot of people do it to have it on their resume.

How much are dues/fees to join PAD and is there a pledge/rush week or is it simply sign, pay, hooray!


*cough *cough ----reading fail, lol

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Re: Wake Law Students taking Questions!!!

Postby jdemmitt » Wed Apr 06, 2011 12:29 pm

But is that a one time fee, yearly, monthly? We don't have fraternities and sororities at byu. The process is new and scary. I am fragile NC!

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Re: Wake Law Students taking Questions!!!

Postby NCtoDC » Wed Apr 06, 2011 12:33 pm

jdemmitt wrote:But is that a one time fee, yearly, monthly? We don't have fraternities and sororities at byu. The process is new and scary. I am fragile NC!


Good point...I would definitely say it isn't monthly, law school students are poor, lol. Don't feel bad, I didn't do any greek stuff in school so I have no idea about any of it either :-)

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Re: Wake Law Students taking Questions!!!

Postby moandersen » Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:59 pm

jdemmitt wrote:But is that a one time fee, yearly, monthly? We don't have fraternities and sororities at byu. The process is new and scary. I am fragile NC!


Its a one time fee, and its not really a fraternity in the traditional sense. Joining is more to add something to you resume (or if you end up with Walker, getting an A on his exam).

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Re: Wake Law Students taking Questions!!!

Postby jdemmitt » Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:09 pm

Oh good. Consider me joined.

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Re: Wake Law Students taking Questions!!!

Postby tstyler98 » Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:30 pm

jdemmitt wrote:But is that a one time fee, yearly, monthly? We don't have fraternities and sororities at byu. The process is new and scary. I am fragile NC!


Yep, just a one-time fee. Definitely not a traditional fraternity.

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Re: Wake Law Students taking Questions!!!

Postby jdemmitt » Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:48 pm

Also when do we get our schedules? Is it before orientation?

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Re: Wake Law Students taking Questions!!!

Postby NCtoDC » Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:50 pm

jdemmitt wrote:Also when do we get our schedules? Is it before orientation?


I am not looking forward to this next period of waiting.... :-/

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Re: Wake Law Students taking Questions!!!

Postby jdemmitt » Wed Apr 06, 2011 8:09 pm

Well right now we get to wait for Smith Shaver results, then next seat deposit, then class schedules?




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