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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby kn6542 » Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:10 pm

CampbellRh wrote:
kn6542 wrote:I think I saw you one day during registration. That's it. Where do you hide?


The library/my room-in Hughes-to do work. Where do you hide?



I study exclusively at home; my home is very exclusive.

I haven't even been in the library since ASW.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby LeahNic » Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:11 pm

kn6542 wrote:
I wish I knew anything at all about football so I could bond with people over it and slap guys on the back and stuff. Shit.

It turned out that I had free cable at my apt for the last three weeks and I didn't even know it until the cable guy shows up to "install" it. :(


That sucks. You could have "borrowed" it for free all year.

I can slap you on the back when discussing Griswold if it would make you feel better.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby CampbellRh » Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:11 pm

kn6542 wrote:
I wish I knew anything at all about football so I could bond with people over it and slap guys on the back and stuff. Shit.


The basics are actually really easy to understand if you learn it while actually watching a game.
I'm sure any of us would be happy to teach you!

And it isn't usually a bonding experience...for me, it is usually people hating on me for being a pats fan...so I guess that will depend on who you're supporting.

We should find a bar playing games and have a TLS football watching party.

And, you should study in the library just once so I can meet you. Three weeks in and I don't know alot of TLSers...and I find that very sad.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby joonbug » Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:13 pm

campbell, there's a legal remedy for that.

tls get together.
(ill be there this time, i promise!)

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby LeahNic » Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:15 pm

joonbug wrote:campbell, there's a legal remedy for that.

tls get together.
(ill be there this time, i promise!)


I'm pretty sure we are going to have to extract something for that promise...otherwise, I dont think we can trust you given prior history....

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby CampbellRh » Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:16 pm

joonbug wrote:campbell, there's a legal remedy for that.

tls get together.
(ill be there this time, i promise!)


Agreed...and I won't flake this time either!

Sidenote: TLS is really distracting me from Civ Pro...no wonder my average hours are high.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby joonbug » Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:22 pm

LeahNic wrote:
joonbug wrote:campbell, there's a legal remedy for that.

tls get together.
(ill be there this time, i promise!)


I'm pretty sure we are going to have to extract something for that promise...otherwise, I dont think we can trust you given prior history....


oh man.. i totally lost street cred here.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby kn6542 » Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:58 pm

LeahNic wrote:
kn6542 wrote:
I wish I knew anything at all about football so I could bond with people over it and slap guys on the back and stuff. Shit.

It turned out that I had free cable at my apt for the last three weeks and I didn't even know it until the cable guy shows up to "install" it. :(


That sucks. You could have "borrowed" it for free all year.

I can slap you on the back when discussing Griswold if it would make you feel better.


Condom distribution FTW! *high five*

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby underdawg » Tue Sep 16, 2008 2:18 am

what the fuck is this, the cornell class of 11 thread?

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby neskerdoo » Tue Sep 16, 2008 3:01 am

I really do want to hear more questions...

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby kn6542 » Tue Sep 16, 2008 7:33 am

neskerdoo wrote:I really do want to hear more questions...


Is there anyone in your classes that laughs really loudly, you know, just to break up the monotony? I don't want to attend a school with no guffawers.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby Elliot » Tue Sep 16, 2008 7:40 am

For those of you who lived outside the northeast before attending, and in particular those who didn't have much experience renting apartments beforehand, how hard was it to find a place to live in Ithaca? Is the available housing close enough to the law school to suffice without a car? Moreover, can you get to the grocery and other such stores relatively easily without a car?

In regards to the law school itself, even though you've only attended a few weeks, all the Cornell 1L's on TLS seem relatively pleased with their school. Is there anything unique to Cornell that has made it so?

Lastly, how does the Cornell law school environment compare to your time in undergrad? It's more work I would assume but is it honestly different in any tangible ways?

Thanks.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby woeisme » Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:38 am

CampbellRh wrote:
And it isn't usually a bonding experience...for me, it is usually people hating on me for being a pats fan...so I guess


Ugh, this might warrant some defriending action on facebook.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby CampbellRh » Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:45 am

woeisme wrote:
CampbellRh wrote:
And it isn't usually a bonding experience...for me, it is usually people hating on me for being a pats fan...so I guess


Ugh, this might warrant some defriending action on facebook.


I'm sorry, I can't help it...I was raised this way. :(

To be fair...I would adore them even if they were awful!
In fact, I might prefer it that way...because then I might be able to afford tickets to the games.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby woeisme » Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:47 am

Elliot wrote:For those of you who lived outside the northeast before attending, and in particular those who didn't have much experience renting apartments beforehand, how hard was it to find a place to live in Ithaca? Is the available housing close enough to the law school to suffice without a car? Moreover, can you get to the grocery and other such stores relatively easily without a car?

In regards to the law school itself, even though you've only attended a few weeks, all the Cornell 1L's on TLS seem relatively pleased with their school. Is there anything unique to Cornell that has made it so?

Lastly, how does the Cornell law school environment compare to your time in undergrad? It's more work I would assume but is it honestly different in any tangible ways?

Thanks.


A car is helpful, but certainly not necessary. There's also public transportation and Cornell buses that make stops at popular places.

I did not have much trouble finding a place in Ithaca at all. There are LOTS of housing options. I wouldn't advise putting your search off until last minute, but everyone finds a place, and I've yet to hear of any horror stories.

Cornell is incredible. So far I'm having a great time. I love the school, the town, the people, etc. It's entirely possible that I just like law school in general and would be this happy anywhere, but I'm not really so convinced. There's a strong sense of camaraderie here.

I'd think that making a general statement about how Cornell Law compares to undergrad would be difficult to do since the undergraduate experience varies so much between people and schools. I'll have to think about this one a bit more, I'm not sure I have a strong enough opinion yet. I certainly am enjoying Cornell as much, if not more, than undergrad, that's for sure (at least thus far).

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby CampbellRh » Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:54 am

Elliot wrote:For those of you who lived outside the northeast before attending, and in particular those who didn't have much experience renting apartments beforehand, how hard was it to find a place to live in Ithaca? Is the available housing close enough to the law school to suffice without a car? Moreover, can you get to the grocery and other such stores relatively easily without a car?

In regards to the law school itself, even though you've only attended a few weeks, all the Cornell 1L's on TLS seem relatively pleased with their school. Is there anything unique to Cornell that has made it so?

Lastly, how does the Cornell law school environment compare to your time in undergrad? It's more work I would assume but is it honestly different in any tangible ways?

Thanks.


1) I've always lived in the northeast, and I just signed up for the law school dorm, so the first portion of this question is not for me. And I have a car, so, again, not much help...but, other people seem to be getting just fine...the public transportation seems to be pretty good. There is a bus that leaves right from collegetown (2 min walk from the school) that heads to the grocery store like every hour (i think).

2) I'm so happy with my decision. I think what I found here, that I didn't feel when visiting other schools, was the lack of strong competition. I have found everyone to be friendly and helpful and willing to discuss cases/theories/etc openly. (Maybe its because we're a small school and if you're that much of an a-hole you'll have no friends?)

3) Its WAY more work (though, I did pretty much nothing in undergrad...so, bad comparison). The level of discussion among my classmates is of a significantly better quality, which is both refreshing and intimidating--and that is def. the biggest difference.

Yay for getting the thread back on track :)

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby LeahNic » Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:17 pm

Elliot wrote:For those of you who lived outside the northeast before attending, and in particular those who didn't have much experience renting apartments beforehand, how hard was it to find a place to live in Ithaca? Is the available housing close enough to the law school to suffice without a car? Moreover, can you get to the grocery and other such stores relatively easily without a car?

In regards to the law school itself, even though you've only attended a few weeks, all the Cornell 1L's on TLS seem relatively pleased with their school. Is there anything unique to Cornell that has made it so?

Lastly, how does the Cornell law school environment compare to your time in undergrad? It's more work I would assume but is it honestly different in any tangible ways?

Thanks.


I'll add my two cents to my classmates.

1. I dont have a car and I live 2.5 miles from the law school. I havent noticed it being much of a problem, except that the last bus to get where I live leaves at 12:30 am on Fri and Sat. So, no late night drinking for me unless I want to take a cab. (and those really arent that expensive-- and I think the bars close fairly early here). I live across the highway from a grocery store so thats no problem.
2. FInding a place is not difficult unless you have a dog. Then it gets tougher particularly if its a big dog. Mine is 9 lbs so they "considered her a cat" at some places.
3. I dont know if cornell is unique. I do think everyone is friendly and gets along well.
4. for my UG time-- I'd say the work load is more. But, I dont feel like I am drowning. ( I did the first 3 days, but I got over that.) My professors are incredible and class discussions for the most part are great. I'm REALLY enjoying law school overall and like woeisme said, I 'm not sure if that's Cornell, or if because I would just love law school anywhere.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby 18488 » Tue Sep 16, 2008 3:56 pm

My $.009

Cornell is awesome, and as the majority of others on this thread would agree, it's most awesome if you're in section A--because then you get to witness professor Alexander's comedy routines performed in extremely classy English suits, and Hillman's awkward moments after students make jokes.

I don't have a car and live on campus, and have had absolutely no inconvenience whatsoever. Sometimes I wish there were a better grocery store nearby (I do my grocery shopping at a small convenient store whose produce section contains only spinach, tomatoes, onions, mushrooms, and, surprisingly, avocados)--so my meals alternate between avocado stir fry and avocado spaghetti.

I feel like the workload is similar to my undergrad, just different in kind--you get used to it

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby fsohn » Tue Sep 16, 2008 4:57 pm

I'd rate the professors pretty highly across the board. Of course some are more intimidating than others (at least I think so), but every one I've talked to either in office hours or after class has been very open to questions, and not at all dismissive. joonbug told me I was yelling at a professor after class (I still don't think I was) but he took it well, and answered my question anyway.

I second sbrown83 on Hillman. The man is like the nerdy kid with a pocket protector in grade school, fifty or so years later (in a good way), and hilariously awkward in his own right. As for the workload, I do "study" a lot, but it's constantly interspersed with baseball, and now football, so I don't study efficiently. If you can keep your efficiency up, the workload is heavy, but definitely manageable.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby neskerdoo » Tue Sep 16, 2008 5:18 pm

Hillman is probably the funniest professor I have ever had

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby hayman » Tue Sep 16, 2008 5:53 pm

for those of you who chose Cornell over other T14s, what made you go with Cornell? Is it cuz it's gorges?
and for the asian folks...did you feel that you had to have better numbers than the rest to get admitted?
I'm hearing so many conflicting stories..some say you need stronger numbers than everyone, esp. for the schools at the top. But at the same time I hear some T1, T2 schools will actually gladly take asians w/o the excessive numbers because some schools don't have an over-representation of asians.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby fsohn » Tue Sep 16, 2008 10:56 pm

My experience isn't directly applicable, but it might be helpful. I identified as both Asian and White on the app stuff, and I certainly didn't have numbers far in excess of the medians--PM me for exact details. In any case, I was no slam-dunk acceptance, so if any extrapolations is possible, it is that people who identify as Asians do not need better than average number as such. Hope that helps.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby dudesweet » Wed Sep 17, 2008 12:28 am

How attractive are the women at Cornell?

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby 18488 » Wed Sep 17, 2008 12:31 am

please refer back to the "most attractive student body" thread, where several cornell 1Ls confirmed an answer to this question.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby kn6542 » Wed Sep 17, 2008 12:33 am

sbrown83 wrote:please refer back to the "most attractive student body" thread, where several cornell 1Ls confirmed an answer to this question.

That's sweetdude's own thread. Is he retarded?




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