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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby Arbiter213 » Fri Jul 05, 2013 3:40 pm

MischiefMayhemSoap wrote:
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MischiefMayhemSoap wrote:So in the event that you get no journal, I heard that you can work into JLPP. Is there a point to this - I mean AJF and everything would be over by then - assuming you have a job?


Work on decisions will be made before AJF.


Wait what? Then how do you "work on" to JLPP in that short time period between decisions and AJF?


You misunderstand what "work-on" means.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby MischiefMayhemSoap » Fri Jul 05, 2013 6:11 pm

inform me o arbiter

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby Arbiter213 » Fri Jul 05, 2013 9:48 pm

MischiefMayhemSoap wrote:inform me o arbiter


It's basically a probationary associate status- you get to report it just like everyone else, but you have to do extra work as an associate. It is functionally no different except you feel worse about yourself and have to do more work (except JLPP associates already have so little work that this is a marginal increase). There would be literally 0 point in doing it if you couldn't put it on your resume for AJF.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby MischiefMayhemSoap » Sun Jul 07, 2013 8:35 pm

Arbiter213 wrote:
MischiefMayhemSoap wrote:inform me o arbiter


It's basically a probationary associate status- you get to report it just like everyone else, but you have to do extra work as an associate. It is functionally no different except you feel worse about yourself and have to do more work (except JLPP associates already have so little work that this is a marginal increase). There would be literally 0 point in doing it if you couldn't put it on your resume for AJF.


Do you find out if you made it as a probationary associate, or do you sign up to be so after learning you made no journal?

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby Lincoln » Sun Jul 07, 2013 9:09 pm

MischiefMayhemSoap wrote:
Arbiter213 wrote:
MischiefMayhemSoap wrote:inform me o arbiter


It's basically a probationary associate status- you get to report it just like everyone else, but you have to do extra work as an associate. It is functionally no different except you feel worse about yourself and have to do more work (except JLPP associates already have so little work that this is a marginal increase). There would be literally 0 point in doing it if you couldn't put it on your resume for AJF.


Do you find out if you made it as a probationary associate, or do you sign up to be so after learning you made no journal?


The latter, but, as has been discussed earlier in the thread, there aren't unlimited spots for work-on associates, so not everyone who misses out on a journal will get on JLPP through that process.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby MischiefMayhemSoap » Sun Jul 07, 2013 11:51 pm

Lincoln wrote:
MischiefMayhemSoap wrote:
Arbiter213 wrote:
MischiefMayhemSoap wrote:inform me o arbiter


It's basically a probationary associate status- you get to report it just like everyone else, but you have to do extra work as an associate. It is functionally no different except you feel worse about yourself and have to do more work (except JLPP associates already have so little work that this is a marginal increase). There would be literally 0 point in doing it if you couldn't put it on your resume for AJF.


Do you find out if you made it as a probationary associate, or do you sign up to be so after learning you made no journal?


The latter, but, as has been discussed earlier in the thread, there aren't unlimited spots for work-on associates, so not everyone who misses out on a journal will get on JLPP through that process.


so, how does one get on JLPP through that process? ty for your answers, trying to be prepped for worst case scenario. :?

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby Arbiter213 » Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:59 am

MischiefMayhemSoap wrote:

so, how does one get on JLPP through that process? ty for your answers, trying to be prepped for worst case scenario. :?


I believe there's a second (very brief) application and they consider that + your writing comp credentials and make offers the same as regular associates.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby redsox550 » Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:17 am

going over my bid list for the final few times. It seems the level of "aggresiveness" for my bidding varies by day. Is thier anything unwise about for insatnce, basically bidding aggresive one day, moderate the next day, and safeties on last day, instead of bidding a mix each day? each day does have mix , but the way my bid list turned out is that each day varies overall pretty significantly in aggresiveness. thoughts?

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby Arbiter213 » Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:18 am

redsox550 wrote:going over my bid list for the final few times. It seems the level of "aggresiveness" for my bidding varies by day. Is thier anything unwise about for insatnce, basically bidding aggresive one day, moderate the next day, and safeties on last day, instead of bidding a mix each day? each day does have mix , but the way my bid list turned out is that each day varies overall pretty significantly in aggresiveness. thoughts?


No, doesn't matter.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby Lacepiece23 » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:35 pm

redsox550 wrote:going over my bid list for the final few times. It seems the level of "aggresiveness" for my bidding varies by day. Is thier anything unwise about for insatnce, basically bidding aggresive one day, moderate the next day, and safeties on last day, instead of bidding a mix each day? each day does have mix , but the way my bid list turned out is that each day varies overall pretty significantly in aggresiveness. thoughts?




I feel like everyone is going to bid safeties the last day tho. Just something to think about. People get lazy constructing their bidlists and will probably have a tendency to be mroe aggressive the first day while saying f it i'm just going to put all my safeties the last day. Might mess up your total number of interviews. Just a thought tho.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby Arbiter213 » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:42 pm

Lacepiece23 wrote:
redsox550 wrote:going over my bid list for the final few times. It seems the level of "aggresiveness" for my bidding varies by day. Is thier anything unwise about for insatnce, basically bidding aggresive one day, moderate the next day, and safeties on last day, instead of bidding a mix each day? each day does have mix , but the way my bid list turned out is that each day varies overall pretty significantly in aggresiveness. thoughts?




I feel like everyone is going to bid safeties the last day tho. Just something to think about. People get lazy constructing their bidlists and will probably have a tendency to be mroe aggressive the first day while saying f it i'm just going to put all my safeties the last day. Might mess up your total number of interviews. Just a thought tho.


It also doesn't help that the last day is usually predominantly* safety firms.

*Edit: I can't spell.
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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby Lacepiece23 » Mon Jul 08, 2013 5:42 pm

Arbiter213 wrote:
Lacepiece23 wrote:
redsox550 wrote:going over my bid list for the final few times. It seems the level of "aggresiveness" for my bidding varies by day. Is thier anything unwise about for insatnce, basically bidding aggresive one day, moderate the next day, and safeties on last day, instead of bidding a mix each day? each day does have mix , but the way my bid list turned out is that each day varies overall pretty significantly in aggresiveness. thoughts?




I feel like everyone is going to bid safeties the last day tho. Just something to think about. People get lazy constructing their bidlists and will probably have a tendency to be mroe aggressive the first day while saying f it i'm just going to put all my safeties the last day. Might mess up your total number of interviews. Just a thought tho.


It also doesn't help that the last day is usually predominately safety firms.


very true...

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby redsox550 » Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:05 pm

Lacepiece23 wrote:
Arbiter213 wrote:
Lacepiece23 wrote:
redsox550 wrote:going over my bid list for the final few times. It seems the level of "aggresiveness" for my bidding varies by day. Is thier anything unwise about for insatnce, basically bidding aggresive one day, moderate the next day, and safeties on last day, instead of bidding a mix each day? each day does have mix , but the way my bid list turned out is that each day varies overall pretty significantly in aggresiveness. thoughts?




I feel like everyone is going to bid safeties the last day tho. Just something to think about. People get lazy constructing their bidlists and will probably have a tendency to be mroe aggressive the first day while saying f it i'm just going to put all my safeties the last day. Might mess up your total number of interviews. Just a thought tho.


It also doesn't help that the last day is usually predominately safety firms.


very true...


ya kinda surprised by the the lack of talent on the third day, no disrespect to any of day 3 firms, just compared to day 1 and 2, day 3 is weak

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby muddup » Tue Jul 09, 2013 1:25 am

Day 3 is for your first callback... unless you really want/need to bid those firms.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby Arbiter213 » Tue Jul 09, 2013 8:03 am

muddup wrote:Day 3 is for your first callback... unless you really want/need to bid those firms.


That's a bit excessive- there are some great firms there, and until you have an offer in hand, you need to bid every firm.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby Lacepiece23 » Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:18 am

Any last minute advice before bidding closes?

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby oldad » Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:21 am

Lacepiece23 wrote:Any last minute advice before bidding closes?


Order a beer with your lunch.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby northerrn » Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:24 am

http://www.lawschool.cornell.edu/careers/employers/job_fairs/nyc.cfm

This is referring to firms participating in AJF, not students right?

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby Lacepiece23 » Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:26 am

northerrn wrote:http://www.lawschool.cornell.edu/careers/employers/job_fairs/nyc.cfm

This is referring to firms participating in AJF, not students right?


Thats a great question I thought it was referring to us, but i have no clue.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby northerrn » Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:31 am

yeah none of the career services emails, or notices ever said anything about a registration fee, so (hopefully) they wouldn't just spring one on us after we submit bids lol

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby hephaestus » Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:33 am

Does anyone have advice for firms that have schedules multiple days? If you get it both days do they cancel you for one day? I'm assuming there's some sort of workaround for this.
If not, should we only bid the firm one day?

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby redsox550 » Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:05 am

Lacepiece23 wrote:
northerrn wrote:http://www.lawschool.cornell.edu/careers/employers/job_fairs/nyc.cfm

This is referring to firms participating in AJF, not students right?


Thats a great question I thought it was referring to us, but i have no clue.


I think that is talking about employers who want to participate, not stduents. As in employers need to pay Cornell to participate in AJF/OCI

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby redsox550 » Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:08 am

oldad wrote:
Lacepiece23 wrote:Any last minute advice before bidding closes?


Order a beer with your lunch.


Copy that. Definately gonna be a happy hour day. Happy to be done with bidding... though I still keep chaning one or two things every 20 minutes :(

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby gonewiththewind » Tue Jul 09, 2013 11:40 am

redsox550 wrote:
oldad wrote:
Lacepiece23 wrote:Any last minute advice before bidding closes?


Order a beer with your lunch.


Copy that. Definately gonna be a happy hour day. Happy to be done with bidding... though I still keep chaning one or two things every 20 minutes :(


Well, you got 20 minutes left. :)

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby redsox550 » Tue Jul 09, 2013 12:21 pm

when do we find out the results?




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