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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby Arbiter213 » Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:53 pm

msblaw89 wrote:
HBBJohnStamos wrote:
msblaw89 wrote:
LFH_intheflesh wrote:Saying what we were all thinking. Their incoming SA will likely be smaller now too.

Counter-consideration: Having already downsized, they probably won't do it again for a while. This may make them a better choice than firms who have yet to shrink down to a size sustainable by the "new normal," and may be due for a lay-off in the future.


The other problem is ... What firms are due for a downsize/ lower pay?


That's obviously a judgment call on your part unless you have their book of business. New York offices won't lower their entry level pay though. Not going to attract top talent at 145 unless you're in a secondary market; ergo, better to lay off 7% of associates instead and let the lemmings keep running to you.

Right, it's tough to judge. I just want to avoid doing a SA with a firm that ends up being like Dewey and get totally blindsided


Weil is not like Dewey- they're very healthy, just never made the cuts during the downturn others did. They're extremely profitable and don't have partner guaranteed pay.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby Lincoln » Tue Jun 25, 2013 4:52 pm

Arbiter213 wrote:Weil is not like Dewey- they're very healthy, just never made the cuts during the downturn others did. They're extremely profitable and don't have partner guaranteed pay.


Also, most of the layoffs appear to be in Boston and Houston, although some associates in NYC got the boot, too.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby toothbrush » Wed Jun 26, 2013 5:08 pm

can anyone confirm / deny the review for collegetown terrace seen in the link below ?

http://www.apartmentratings.com/rate/NY ... rrace.html

or does anyone have any anecdotal reviews ?

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby Arbiter213 » Wed Jun 26, 2013 5:56 pm

toothbrush wrote:can anyone confirm / deny the review for collegetown terrace seen in the link below ?

http://www.apartmentratings.com/rate/NY ... rrace.html

or does anyone have any anecdotal reviews ?


Anecdote: You're about to go massively in debt, why would you pay out the nose to live far from campus just to have a nicer, newer apartment?

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby toothbrush » Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:21 pm

Arbiter213 wrote:
toothbrush wrote:can anyone confirm / deny the review for collegetown terrace seen in the link below ?

http://www.apartmentratings.com/rate/NY ... rrace.html

or does anyone have any anecdotal reviews ?


Anecdote: You're about to go massively in debt, why would you pay out the nose to live far from campus just to have a nicer, newer apartment?

Simply because I'm on a WL at HLS with a js1 and I am waiting on getting an apartment til the very end (mid August). I've been told I won't find anything at that point and I know Collegetown Terrace will have rooms available.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby LFH_intheflesh » Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:24 pm

lol im living there next year

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby MischiefMayhemSoap » Fri Jun 28, 2013 2:36 pm

What does everyone do travel-plan wise regarding AJF? Do they plan on going to Ithaca or back to wherever they were for the summer/home?

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby msblaw89 » Fri Jun 28, 2013 2:39 pm

MischiefMayhemSoap wrote:What does everyone do travel-plan wise regarding AJF? Do they plan on going to Ithaca or back to wherever they were for the summer/home?

Probably back to Ithaca. Assuming that you get callback interview in the interim between AJF and classes, it may be easier to travel back and forth. Though I believe most of the expense is paid for by the firm

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby LFH_intheflesh » Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:03 pm

Yeah I'll probably stay in Ithaca as well. My internship wraps up the Wednesday before AJF and I really have no reason to stay.

That and I want to get my money's worht out of my overpriced apartment.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby Arbiter213 » Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:09 pm

LFH_intheflesh wrote:Yeah I'll probably stay in Ithaca as well. My internship wraps up the Wednesday before AJF and I really have no reason to stay.

That and I want to get my money's worht out of my overpriced apartment.


You're all also going to have Journal orientation at some point in there.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby oldad » Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:24 am

Sorry if this has been asked before, but is there a typical amount of initial interviews that people wind up with each day?

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby Arbiter213 » Sun Jun 30, 2013 11:09 am

oldad wrote:Sorry if this has been asked before, but is there a typical amount of initial interviews that people wind up with each day?

4-5 per day, with more on day 1 and 2.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby hephaestus » Sun Jun 30, 2013 11:31 am

How quick is the turnaround time between AJF screeners and CBs?

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby Lincoln » Sun Jun 30, 2013 11:39 am

ImNoScar wrote:How quick is the turnaround time between AJF screeners and CBs?


They usually call with a couple of days. The CB itself can be anything from the day after to six weeks (or more?) later.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby oldad » Sun Jun 30, 2013 4:44 pm

Thanks!

Arbiter213 wrote:
oldad wrote:Sorry if this has been asked before, but is there a typical amount of initial interviews that people wind up with each day?

4-5 per day, with more on day 1 and 2.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby cavtrpr » Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:00 pm

How is the availability of off-campus housing (not school-affiliated apartments, I mean like rental houses)? What are the prices like? I have a wife, daughter, and two dogs so on campus or school-affiliated housing is a no-go for me.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby Lincoln » Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:23 pm

cavtrpr wrote:How is the availability of off-campus housing (not school-affiliated apartments, I mean like rental houses)? What are the prices like? I have a wife, daughter, and two dogs so on campus or school-affiliated housing is a no-go for me.


Anything close to the law school will be pricey, unless your wife has a good income. Downtown is a little better and has good bus service. Alternatively, prices are about halved for things driving distance away.

Edit: Also, if you are starting in the fall, you are extremely late in the game.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby cavtrpr » Sun Jun 30, 2013 10:09 pm

Lincoln wrote:
cavtrpr wrote:How is the availability of off-campus housing (not school-affiliated apartments, I mean like rental houses)? What are the prices like? I have a wife, daughter, and two dogs so on campus or school-affiliated housing is a no-go for me.


Anything close to the law school will be pricey, unless your wife has a good income. Downtown is a little better and has good bus service. Alternatively, prices are about halved for things driving distance away.

Edit: Also, if you are starting in the fall, you are extremely late in the game.


Oh no, no, no. I'm not attending in the fall. I am in the Fall '14 admissions cycle. I'm not quite finished with my service obligation yet. My wife is an RN, but I'd still like to have rental prices that are reasonable. I'd be willing to commute. How is the crime downtown? Are there any suburbs nearby that might be worth looking into? What is that communities name?

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby Lincoln » Sun Jun 30, 2013 10:38 pm

cavtrpr wrote:
Lincoln wrote:
cavtrpr wrote:How is the availability of off-campus housing (not school-affiliated apartments, I mean like rental houses)? What are the prices like? I have a wife, daughter, and two dogs so on campus or school-affiliated housing is a no-go for me.


Anything close to the law school will be pricey, unless your wife has a good income. Downtown is a little better and has good bus service. Alternatively, prices are about halved for things driving distance away.

Edit: Also, if you are starting in the fall, you are extremely late in the game.


Oh no, no, no. I'm not attending in the fall. I am in the Fall '14 admissions cycle. I'm not quite finished with my service obligation yet. My wife is an RN, but I'd still like to have rental prices that are reasonable. I'd be willing to commute. How is the crime downtown? Are there any suburbs nearby that might be worth looking into? What is that communities name?


There is practically zero crime downtown and it is much quieter and better for kids than Collegetown (which is the neighborhood closer to the law school). A lot of older law students and most grad students live downtown or in the Fall Creek neighborhood. For commuting, just check a map of nearby small towns; Ithaca isn't really large enough to have suburbs, per se, although Lansing and Cayuga Heights might qualify.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby Arbiter213 » Sun Jun 30, 2013 11:34 pm

Lincoln wrote:
cavtrpr wrote:
Lincoln wrote:
cavtrpr wrote:How is the availability of off-campus housing (not school-affiliated apartments, I mean like rental houses)? What are the prices like? I have a wife, daughter, and two dogs so on campus or school-affiliated housing is a no-go for me.


Anything close to the law school will be pricey, unless your wife has a good income. Downtown is a little better and has good bus service. Alternatively, prices are about halved for things driving distance away.

Edit: Also, if you are starting in the fall, you are extremely late in the game.


Oh no, no, no. I'm not attending in the fall. I am in the Fall '14 admissions cycle. I'm not quite finished with my service obligation yet. My wife is an RN, but I'd still like to have rental prices that are reasonable. I'd be willing to commute. How is the crime downtown? Are there any suburbs nearby that might be worth looking into? What is that communities name?


There is practically zero crime downtown and it is much quieter and better for kids than Collegetown (which is the neighborhood closer to the law school). A lot of older law students and most grad students live downtown or in the Fall Creek neighborhood. For commuting, just check a map of nearby small towns; Ithaca isn't really large enough to have suburbs, per se, although Lansing and Cayuga Heights might qualify.


East Hill Plaza is the way to go.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby paulshortys10 » Thu Jul 04, 2013 9:55 pm

So.....how close are we to finding out whether we made a journal?

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby Arbiter213 » Fri Jul 05, 2013 12:06 am

paulshortys10 wrote:So.....how close are we to finding out whether we made a journal?


You? I wouldn't hold my breath...


(You'll hear within 2 weeks, if I had to guess).

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby MischiefMayhemSoap » Fri Jul 05, 2013 1:58 am

So in the event that you get no journal, I heard that you can work into JLPP. Is there a point to this - I mean AJF and everything would be over by then - assuming you have a job?

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby Arbiter213 » Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:28 am

MischiefMayhemSoap wrote:So in the event that you get no journal, I heard that you can work into JLPP. Is there a point to this - I mean AJF and everything would be over by then - assuming you have a job?


Work on decisions will be made before AJF.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby MischiefMayhemSoap » Fri Jul 05, 2013 1:05 pm

Arbiter213 wrote:
MischiefMayhemSoap wrote:So in the event that you get no journal, I heard that you can work into JLPP. Is there a point to this - I mean AJF and everything would be over by then - assuming you have a job?


Work on decisions will be made before AJF.


Wait what? Then how do you "work on" to JLPP in that short time period between decisions and AJF?




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