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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby hephaestus » Mon Feb 04, 2013 4:17 pm

iMisto wrote:
SpatulasRcool13 wrote:
Haha, Mommy doesn't give me her credit card for anything. I live in a 4 bedroom, so its affordable, but your point is taken. Housing prices throughout Ithaca are surprisingly high.


How in the world do you study, Ke$ha???

24/7 library access helps. Collegtown is expensive but I'm happy with it. It's extra loan money and that sucks, but I feel like 1L is important enough that it's worth it.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby iMisto » Mon Feb 04, 2013 4:20 pm

I have every intention of doing my best for 1L. Will living downtown really affect my grades/outcomes?

Sincerely,
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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby hephaestus » Mon Feb 04, 2013 4:24 pm

iMisto wrote:I have every intention of doing my best for 1L. Will living downtown really affect my grades/outcomes?

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MostAnxious0LEver

I think it depends. I personally work very badly at home so being close to the library is important to me. If you do, it doesn't matter as much. It's all a personal thing. If you are worried about the cost, downtown is way cheaper. I am spending a little under 900 this year for collegtown. Next year, since I (hopefully) don't have to be here as much, I'm living farther away and spending 300 a month less.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby guinness1547 » Mon Feb 04, 2013 4:25 pm

iMisto wrote:I have every intention of doing my best for 1L. Will living downtown really affect my grades/outcomes?

Sincerely,
MostAnxious0LEver


Bro beans, you got in. Let yourself chill just a little.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby Lacepiece23 » Mon Feb 04, 2013 4:30 pm

iMisto wrote:I have every intention of doing my best for 1L. Will living downtown really affect my grades/outcomes?

Sincerely,
MostAnxious0LEver


To answer your question I live in hughes right next to the library. Personally, I hate the library and would rather work in my room. People study differently. I didn't go to the library for more then probably 20 hours all semester. Did fine. If you like working from home then do it. If you don't move closer to the library. Its not rocket science.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby iMisto » Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:19 pm

guinness1547 wrote:
iMisto wrote:I have every intention of doing my best for 1L. Will living downtown really affect my grades/outcomes?

Sincerely,
MostAnxious0LEver


Bro beans, you got in. Let yourself chill just a little.


... that's probably sound advice.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby Lincoln » Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:37 pm

iMisto wrote:I have every intention of doing my best for 1L. Will living downtown really affect my grades/outcomes?

Sincerely,
MostAnxious0LEver


I'm gonna go ahead and say that proximity to law school has no statistical correlation to grades. In fact, people who have worked before tend to prefer living outside of the fratboy hell that is collegetown on the weekends; those people, in my experience, tend to do better than average in school.

But it's all about how you structure your day, and everyone is different.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby timeandspace11 » Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:51 pm

How late do buses run? I like to study in libraries but would prefer to live where it is a bit cheaper, which according to you all seems to be the downtown area

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Postby Arbiter213 » Mon Feb 04, 2013 6:18 pm

Lincoln wrote:
iMisto wrote:I have every intention of doing my best for 1L. Will living downtown really affect my grades/outcomes?

Sincerely,
MostAnxious0LEver


I'm gonna go ahead and say that proximity to law school has no statistical correlation to grades. In fact, people who have worked before tend to prefer living outside of the fratboy hell that is collegetown on the weekends; those people, in my experience, tend to do better than average in school.

But it's all about how you structure your day, and everyone is different.


Yah where you live really doesn't matter. I know plenty of very top students who lived in Hughes, and plenty who lived driving distance.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby Lincoln » Mon Feb 04, 2013 6:41 pm

timeandspace11 wrote:How late do buses run? I like to study in libraries but would prefer to live where it is a bit cheaper, which according to you all seems to be the downtown area


Buses to downtown stop running at between 7:30 and 9:30 p.m., depending on the bus. Buses to places like Hasbrouck (grad student housing) run all night (but no one wants to live up there anyway. It's a 10-min walk DOWNHILL to downtown, but a nasty uphill walk. Many people take the bus up in the morning and walk down at night. There's also a path along the gorge that's reasonably pretty that leads you right down to the Fall Creek area, so the walk home can be faster than the bus.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby poichi » Mon Feb 04, 2013 6:59 pm

nvm, admissions office says the there isn't a difference in timeline.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby kaf5250 » Wed Feb 06, 2013 1:07 pm

Does anyone know anything about North Wood Apartments? It says its 2 miles from campus and on the bus route and its looking pretty enticing. Free parking, really nice furnished apartments, a fitness center on site, pet friendly, and under $1000 a month for a one bedroom with patio. Too good to be true?

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby PinkCow » Wed Feb 06, 2013 1:23 pm

kaf5250 wrote:Does anyone know anything about North Wood Apartments? It says its 2 miles from campus and on the bus route and its looking pretty enticing. Free parking, really nice furnished apartments, a fitness center on site, pet friendly, and under $1000 a month for a one bedroom with patio. Too good to be true?



There's a company called Solomon Housing or something that owns all of those units: Northwood, Candlewick, Warrenwood, Gaslight Village, etc. The reviews online are not great (poor construction, unresponsive, sneaky property managers, etc.). However, I do know a few people who live(d) in those units and had a pretty good experience. I lived in a Gaslight Village sublet for a couple months and was perfectly satisfied. AC is a nice perk too. However, 2 miles is farther than you might think, given that about 80%+ of students will be living within walking distance. It becomes a hassle pretty quickly.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby Volibear » Wed Feb 06, 2013 1:29 pm

To answer your question I live in hughes right next to the library. Personally, I hate the library and would rather work in my room. People study differently. I didn't go to the library for more then probably 20 hours all semester. Did fine. If you like working from home then do it. If you don't move closer to the library. Its not rocket science.


Agreed. I studied at home all semester and did fine.

Not really a fan of the library. Nothing like sitting down in one of the carrels, getting ready to tackle some confusing rule/case, when somebody plops their ass down next to you and starts manhandling a cheeseburger wrapper for 10-15 minutes. The reading room might be better, though. I didn't study there very much.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby msblaw89 » Wed Feb 06, 2013 2:05 pm

kaf5250 wrote:Does anyone know anything about North Wood Apartments? It says its 2 miles from campus and on the bus route and its looking pretty enticing. Free parking, really nice furnished apartments, a fitness center on site, pet friendly, and under $1000 a month for a one bedroom with patio. Too good to be true?



These apartments are pretty far out from campus. However, they are very close to the airport, and the mall area.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby KMaine » Wed Feb 06, 2013 2:08 pm

msblaw89 wrote:
kaf5250 wrote:Does anyone know anything about North Wood Apartments? It says its 2 miles from campus and on the bus route and its looking pretty enticing. Free parking, really nice furnished apartments, a fitness center on site, pet friendly, and under $1000 a month for a one bedroom with patio. Too good to be true?



These apartments are pretty far out from campus. However, they are very close to the airport, and the mall area.


I lived in that part of town and liked it pretty well. I have never been in that particular apt. complex. The busses are pretty convenient, but you will feel pretty removed from campus (I kind of liked that).

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby kaf5250 » Wed Feb 06, 2013 2:32 pm

Which apartment complexes are within walking distance to campus and popular with graduate students? I have been just trying Google search and Craigslist but some actual names of complexes would be very helpful (especially any furnished apartments)

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby hephaestus » Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:00 pm

kaf5250 wrote:Which apartment complexes are within walking distance to campus and popular with graduate students? I have been just trying Google search and Craigslist but some actual names of complexes would be very helpful (especially any furnished apartments)

Complexes in collegtown are way overpriced. Of that's what you are looking for, it's more going to be Craigslist. Many converted apartments in ctown are furnished.any include utilities.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby guinness1547 » Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:06 pm

What months of the year is it generally feasible to bike to class instead of walking(meaning so the wind isn't freezing and no snow). Aug-Oct, late March-May?

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby msblaw89 » Thu Feb 07, 2013 7:08 pm

guinness1547 wrote:What months of the year is it generally feasible to bike to class instead of walking(meaning so the wind isn't freezing and no snow). Aug-Oct, late March-May?



Can't give my 2 cents post February...but this past semester you could have biked until mid-December...maybe longer if you are a good biker

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby kevin0201 » Tue Feb 12, 2013 5:43 pm

guinness1547 wrote:What months of the year is it generally feasible to bike to class instead of walking(meaning so the wind isn't freezing and no snow). Aug-Oct, late March-May?


I don't think biking is a good idea in Ithaca unless you're an experienced biker lol Hills hills and more hills...

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby HBBJohnStamos » Tue Feb 12, 2013 5:53 pm

kevin0201 wrote:
guinness1547 wrote:What months of the year is it generally feasible to bike to class instead of walking(meaning so the wind isn't freezing and no snow). Aug-Oct, late March-May?


I don't think biking is a good idea in Ithaca unless you're an experienced biker lol Hills hills and more hills...


Yeah I generally don't see anyone biking in collegetown. If you live on the north side of campus it seems like biking would be feasible though.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby Dmini7 » Fri Feb 15, 2013 8:19 pm

I am sure this question is buried within the 155 pages of posts, so I apologize for asking a repeat. Anyways, I know Cornell has amazing placement numbers, especially in NYC, but I was curious how they do in CA. My fiancee and I would much rather live in CA(as that is where we both grew up and have family), but the thought of Cornell, the weight its name holds and just how awesome the campus looks is very hard to pass up. I assume not many people who attend actually try to get to California, so I was wondering if anyone had any information even if it is anecdotal about students vying for California. Also, assuming I were choosing between USC/UCLA and Cornell, what would one recommend if I was dead-set on avoiding NYC but willing to work elsewhere(i.e:Other big markets).

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby Lacepiece23 » Sat Feb 16, 2013 1:29 am

Dmini7 wrote:I am sure this question is buried within the 155 pages of posts, so I apologize for asking a repeat. Anyways, I know Cornell has amazing placement numbers, especially in NYC, but I was curious how they do in CA. My fiancee and I would much rather live in CA(as that is where we both grew up and have family), but the thought of Cornell, the weight its name holds and just how awesome the campus looks is very hard to pass up. I assume not many people who attend actually try to get to California, so I was wondering if anyone had any information even if it is anecdotal about students vying for California. Also, assuming I were choosing between USC/UCLA and Cornell, what would one recommend if I was dead-set on avoiding NYC but willing to work elsewhere(i.e:Other big markets).


You'd actually be suprised. I live in Hughes which is right next to the law school. We are put in suites of 5 and I'm the only person in my suite not from Cali. All my suite mates are looking to go back. I think my class especially has a lot of California residents. A lot come in with the mind set of well I have like 30% chance big law from UCLA/USC if that. Cornell ups that chance significantly. My numbers aren't quite good enough for the rest of the T14 so I guess Cornell it is. So basically they go in with the attitude of if I do well I can get back home. If I'm median or slightly below at least I have a job.

With all that being said a lot of my class is looking into CA. I don't have the actual numbers, but I think thats where we place the second most of our graduates. Also, we have this club called CALSA specifically for people looking to go back to CA. So there is defiitely a good number of students gunning for CA biglaw. I have no idea though how well you would need to do here in order to get back home. Anecdotally I know people who got CA out of Cornell. I'm only a 1L so next year I'll really know how many of my classmates ended up being successful grabbing Biglaw from there.

I guess moral of the story coming here is probably safer then USC/UCLA. If you do well like top 30% I"m sure you can get back. You might be kicking yourself for not saving a little money by attending USC/UCLA, but again theres really no way to know how well you will do. If you end up at median you'll be unbelievably happy that you picked Cornell because its more likely than not you will have a market paying job in NYC. Just my 2 cents

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby FlanAl » Sat Feb 16, 2013 10:59 am

Lacepiece23 wrote:
Dmini7 wrote:I am sure this question is buried within the 155 pages of posts, so I apologize for asking a repeat. Anyways, I know Cornell has amazing placement numbers, especially in NYC, but I was curious how they do in CA. My fiancee and I would much rather live in CA(as that is where we both grew up and have family), but the thought of Cornell, the weight its name holds and just how awesome the campus looks is very hard to pass up. I assume not many people who attend actually try to get to California, so I was wondering if anyone had any information even if it is anecdotal about students vying for California. Also, assuming I were choosing between USC/UCLA and Cornell, what would one recommend if I was dead-set on avoiding NYC but willing to work elsewhere(i.e:Other big markets).


You'd actually be suprised. I live in Hughes which is right next to the law school. We are put in suites of 5 and I'm the only person in my suite not from Cali. All my suite mates are looking to go back. I think my class especially has a lot of California residents. A lot come in with the mind set of well I have like 30% chance big law from UCLA/USC if that. Cornell ups that chance significantly. My numbers aren't quite good enough for the rest of the T14 so I guess Cornell it is. So basically they go in with the attitude of if I do well I can get back home. If I'm median or slightly below at least I have a job.

With all that being said a lot of my class is looking into CA. I don't have the actual numbers, but I think thats where we place the second most of our graduates. Also, we have this club called CALSA specifically for people looking to go back to CA. So there is defiitely a good number of students gunning for CA biglaw. I have no idea though how well you would need to do here in order to get back home. Anecdotally I know people who got CA out of Cornell. I'm only a 1L so next year I'll really know how many of my classmates ended up being successful grabbing Biglaw from there.

I guess moral of the story coming here is probably safer then USC/UCLA. If you do well like top 30% I"m sure you can get back. You might be kicking yourself for not saving a little money by attending USC/UCLA, but again theres really no way to know how well you will do. If you end up at median you'll be unbelievably happy that you picked Cornell because its more likely than not you will have a market paying job in NYC. Just my 2 cents


This was my thinking when I decided between the two a couple of years ago. What I would add is that biglaw placement generally indicates good placement in other areas of law as well. If USC/UCLA are cheaper then you'd probably want to go there but they probably won't be that much less expensive.




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