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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby johansantana21 » Fri Dec 16, 2011 4:29 pm

horrorbusiness wrote:
horrorbusiness wrote:as a surely welcome change of subject...


how is privacy in hughes? this is a serious question. i know the law school class is very small/close.

would one be able to comfortably have guests over for the night without having to worry about gossip/rumors and such?

do people throw parties in their rooms?

is noise ever an issue?

i'm afraid it would end up like an episode of the Real World, but otherwise it seems incredibly convenient.


plz?


I live in hughes.

It's fine.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby mths » Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:49 am

horrorbusiness wrote:
horrorbusiness wrote:as a surely welcome change of subject...


how is privacy in hughes? this is a serious question. i know the law school class is very small/close.

would one be able to comfortably have guests over for the night without having to worry about gossip/rumors and such?

do people throw parties in their rooms?

is noise ever an issue?

i'm afraid it would end up like an episode of the Real World, but otherwise it seems incredibly convenient.


plz?

Having people stay over isn't a cakewalk and noise is an issue if your suitemates are douchey.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby horrorbusiness » Wed Dec 21, 2011 4:32 am

anyone have/shoot guns?

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby FlanAl » Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:35 am

you can take it as a pe course at the undergrad. at the law school itself I have no idea. the area surrounding it is super rural so maybe you could go hunt somewhere. as far as sports and stuff go people at the law school usually just play inter mural. there are only like 600 people total so for a lot niche interest things you are going to have to look beyond the law school.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby KMaine » Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:46 am

horrorbusiness wrote:anyone have/shoot guns?


Assume you are talking about hunting rather than crime. I know some people who do the former.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby horrorbusiness » Wed Dec 21, 2011 1:37 pm

thanks. haha, no not crime. target shooting/collecting/modding is what i meant.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby KMaine » Wed Dec 21, 2011 1:43 pm

Yeah, the people I know are 3Ls, but I don't know many people who aren't 3Ls. I think you will find some like-minded individuals. Plus the campus is huge (undergrads and grad students). I would imagine there is some sort of club.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby vexion » Fri Dec 23, 2011 1:04 pm

There are several gun clubs/sport shooting facilities sprinkled around the area. None in Ithaca proper, but iirc one in Dryden, one in Cortland, one in Newfield... Many require a membership, but I didn't look into it too much.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby Skyhook » Thu Jan 05, 2012 12:56 pm

I know a few 2L's use this forum...
I'm looking for casebooks, please PM me if they are in good condition (minimal highlighting, writing, damage, etc):

Criminal Law with Ohlin - Criminal Law and Its Processes: Cases and Materials, Eighth Edition (Casebook) [Hardcover]
Sanford H. Kadish

Property with Underkuffler - Property by James E. Krier, Gregory S. Alexander and Jesse Dukeminier, Seventh Edition (2010, Other, Mixed media product)

And any advice for their courses would be great too!

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby Arbiter213 » Sat Jan 07, 2012 3:45 pm

For the record, grades came out this past Friday, the Friday before the Monday they were due to be released.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby Pato_09 » Sat Jan 07, 2012 6:07 pm

Any 2L/3L recommend any course(s) for next semester?

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby vexion » Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:53 pm

Pato_09 wrote:Any 2L/3L recommend any course(s) for next semester?

Is Whitehead teaching Biz Orgs in the spring? I'll recommend him as the anti-Hockett. I took it with Hockett and the man is insufferable, but I had Intro to Transactional Lawyering with Whitehead and he's great.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby FlanAl » Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:35 pm

Arbiter213 wrote:For the record, grades came out this past Friday, the Friday before the Monday they were due to be released.

Anyone know how to figure out the breakdown of top 25, median etc.?

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby orderofthings » Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:38 pm

FlanAl wrote:
Arbiter213 wrote:For the record, grades came out this past Friday, the Friday before the Monday they were due to be released.

Anyone know how to figure out the breakdown of top 25, median etc.?


Wondering this too. Basically all I've got is the top 10 percent mark and that median is somewhere between 3.2 and 3.5, but probably closer to the higher end of that spectrum.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby Lincoln » Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:59 pm

Top 30% each semester get a letter saying they made dean's list. Last year it was just over a 3.6.

Median... who the fuck knows.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby Lincoln » Sun Jan 08, 2012 2:00 pm

vexion wrote:
Pato_09 wrote:Any 2L/3L recommend any course(s) for next semester?

Is Whitehead teaching Biz Orgs in the spring? I'll recommend him as the anti-Hockett. I took it with Hockett and the man is insufferable, but I had Intro to Transactional Lawyering with Whitehead and he's great.


Whitehead is not teaching biz orgs this spring.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby justhoping » Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:28 pm

Lincoln wrote:Median... who the fuck knows.


I thought it was ~3.35, no?

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby orderofthings » Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:23 am

justhoping wrote:
Lincoln wrote:Median... who the fuck knows.


I thought it was ~3.35, no?


I don't feel like looking up the exact details but last year Cornell changed their grading policy to where the median grades for a class can range from between 3.2-3.5, instead of a hard 3.35. Most professors moved to the higher end of that spectrum, as evidenced by the top 10% GPA cutoff changing to about .1 higher from the class of 2012 to the class of 2013.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby Arbiter213 » Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:28 am

justhoping wrote:
Lincoln wrote:Median... who the fuck knows.


I thought it was ~3.35, no?


Not really. The curve is allowed to go up to a 3.5. Last year the Median was a 3.42, top 1/3rd came in just over 3.6 (as above) and top 10% is somewhere around 3.81.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby justhoping » Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:31 am

Arbiter213 wrote:
justhoping wrote:
I thought it was ~3.35, no?


Not really. The curve is allowed to go up to a 3.5. Last year the Median was a 3.42, top 1/3rd came in just over 3.6 (as above) and top 10% is somewhere around 3.81.


I see. where did you get the data?

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby Arbiter213 » Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:33 am

justhoping wrote:
Arbiter213 wrote:
justhoping wrote:
I thought it was ~3.35, no?


Not really. The curve is allowed to go up to a 3.5. Last year the Median was a 3.42, top 1/3rd came in just over 3.6 (as above) and top 10% is somewhere around 3.81.


I see. where did you get the data?


1. A 2L
2. https://support.law.cornell.edu/student ... y_2011.pdf

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby FlanAl » Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:41 am

I hate that I can't figure out how bad I actually did haha

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby Arbiter213 » Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:46 am

FlanAl wrote:I hate that I can't figure out how bad I actually did haha


I mean, half the class is still waiting on a quarter of it's GPA. Assuming you're NOT in that group:

<3.35, bad
3.35-3.48, median-ish, but below 3.42 is likely actually below
3.48-3.61, above median, below top 3rd
3.61-3.81, 30%-11%
>3.81, top 10%

4.0, transfer to yale

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby Lincoln » Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:53 am

Arbiter213 wrote:
justhoping wrote:
Lincoln wrote:Median... who the fuck knows.


I thought it was ~3.35, no?


Not really. The curve is allowed to go up to a 3.5. Last year the Median was a 3.42, top 1/3rd came in just over 3.6 (as above) and top 10% is somewhere around 3.81.


I'd like to know where that median comes from. I've never seen anything from the registrar stating this.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby Arbiter213 » Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:54 am

Lincoln wrote:
Arbiter213 wrote:
justhoping wrote:
Lincoln wrote:Median... who the fuck knows.


I thought it was ~3.35, no?


Not really. The curve is allowed to go up to a 3.5. Last year the Median was a 3.42, top 1/3rd came in just over 3.6 (as above) and top 10% is somewhere around 3.81.


I'd like to know where that median comes from. I've never seen anything from the registrar stating this.


A 2L who compiled stats whom I trust. It's possible that's completely wrong though.




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