AdamatUCF wrote: como wrote: AdamatUCF wrote:
ilsa wrote:I don't know how active this thread is... but here are my questions.
I'm interested in international human rights law
I always see people say this, but I have no idea what it actually means.
What does an "International Human Rights Lawyer" do? Where would you have a job? Is it different from working in a government policy-setting job? I don't mean to be overly critical, but I don't understand people who aim for fields that in my, perhaps cynical, mind, are a bit conceptual and "pie in the sky".
Can you explain to me where you plan on using your JD after you graduate? It would settle a curiosity I've had for a while. All I've heard so far, from others I've asked, are very very vague descriptions of ideals and beliefs, and a few descriptions of jobs that don't really require a $200k JD at all.
Google -> NGO -> Int'l human rights
Thanks for such an exhaustive answer! :-/
I've looked at the results a bit, and when that wasn't terribly helpful, tried narrowing down the results ultimately ending up with the search query "ngo international human rights lawyer jobs", and I still ended up with nothing to answer my question.
I'm not looking for an explanation of what "international human rights" are, nor the emerging and largely theoretical/insubstantial body of laws that are starting to exist. I'm looking for an explanation of what, exactly, a person with a newly bestowed JD does upon graduation. Near as I can figure, the answer starts with "Move to DC and become a member of the federal bar" , but after that I don't see what a career in "International Human Rights Law" entails on a day to day basis, nor where the career starts.
All right. I wasn't sure if you were just being a prick or not. But I did see you on the Cornell 2013 dancing around about getting your acceptance, so you're there. You're at a place with an international human rights clinic. It's odd to be you're in the dark. I'm not saying I am this wide-eyed little girl wanting to save the world. But I do want to do good.
Everything you study is a concept. Everything. You can implement it though. People interested in international human rights can work for NGOs, international programs like Amnesty and Human Rights watch. People have human rights jobs in the US. There are violations here, and some people are defending convicts whether to be treated better or to not be executed. Others can work "internationally" but in the US on asylum cases. The international part isn't necessarily sitting out in DC nor is it rushing into throngs of African children and saving them because you're Superhero Lawyerperson. Some countries don't have constitutions. Women don't have rights in many more countries. There are more human rights violations than most people could count. I'm not saying anything bad about people who want to do biglaw and have a nice life. But for me, there are bigger things. Sometimes policy needs to be changed, whether that is US policy or somewhere abroad. I'm interested in Cornell's French program since it would mean obtaining an international degree, and a language that is an official UN language and one that has roots for Africa.
During my time in undergrad, my school has been working toward establishing itself as a city of refuge for persecuted writers. This is a part of ICORN, a network and the North American one was established by Salman Rushdie, a fatwa was put on his head by a muslim group or government. Basically, like a mafia hit. He escaped to England, safe. His TRANSLATOR was killed though. This is disgustingly common. So many writers and journalists are jailed, persecuted, tortured, or killed yearly. Nine out of ten of the writers seeking refuge are from China. In January Miami (Does UCF mean University of Central Florida) made Chenjari Hove their writer in residence. Houston, Las Vegas, Pittsburgh, and also Ithaca are cities of refuge. Someone has to defend those cases. I'm aware people can do good without a JD, without any degree, even. Some organizations are human rights based and they just need a lawyer. Some will defend asylum cases and others will go through the legal means of getting someone out of a country. A writer in an African nation (forgetting the name currently) spoke out for women's rights. Her research and computer was thrown in the mud and she was kidnapped and imprisoned. Not too long ago Argentina had internment camps for political activists and poets. People were blindfolded for years in them. Violations are happening, shouldn't someone stand up? Defend? Try with everything they have to change things? A little girl from Florida may not end up putting on a dictator on trial for war crimes, but some people do. Some rights need protecting, and worse yet they need to be implemented in other areas. And some people will just work for the US government and it won't ever be an international career, but hopefully along the way, they help someone.
Some people need representation, or for someone to speak up when they can't. I'm not saying it is the most likely thing in the world I'll work for the UN or Amnesty, but someone has to investigate atrocities. Hate crimes, genocides, rape, murder? They can meet with victims, I believe it is working within a country, not sitting in America and pretending to help. Maybe I don't need a JD to do good. Maybe I'll amass 200k in debt for no good reason. It likely never pays much, either. But some things are more important to me, and it is of concern to others, too. Your school along with many, many other top schools have international human rights classes, degrees, clinics. They aren't just there to make me feel fluffy inside. (Sorry for the length).