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Re: GULC Students Taking Questions

Postby Anonnonnon » Tue Jun 06, 2017 11:14 pm

browniestasty wrote:
buckiguy_sucks wrote:
mbpats7 wrote:
barkschool wrote:
Anonnonnon wrote:Any ideas on how we should be choosing our 2L classes in general?




how easy (is it cross listed with LLMs) >>>> schedule >> tangential interests

in that order


I take it that classes cross-listed with LLMs are harder?



Easier. ESL llms don't do as well on exams is the common line thinking which makes sense to me but I have no hard data to back it up.


ESL is part of the issue but I think the bigger issue is a lot of them are basically on paid vacation and don't actually give a fuck about their grades.


How can you tell when a course/section is "cross listed?" How is it indicated?

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Re: GULC Students Taking Questions

Postby ladybug1989 » Tue Jun 06, 2017 11:24 pm

Anyone have a Prof for Professional Responsibility that was easier on the curve? Heard the PR curve is pretty brutal.

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Re: GULC Students Taking Questions

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Re: GULC Students Taking Questions

Postby barkschool » Tue Jun 06, 2017 11:37 pm

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Re: GULC Students Taking Questions

Postby buckiguy_sucks » Wed Jun 07, 2017 7:18 am

usn26 wrote:
buckiguy_sucks wrote:
Anonnonnon wrote:Any ideas on how we should be choosing our 2L classes in general? Like what kind of requirements do we need to fulfill (credit and otherwise), recommendations for classes to take, etc? Just looking for general advice here.

If it matters, I took The Regulatory State as my elective. Does that count for my administrative law credit? If so, how can I tell?


You need 85 total credits, the only requirements are professional responsibility and a writing requirement seminar, and reg state will sometime count for classes that require admin as a prerequisite but you may have to specially petition the registrar.

If you're looking for a guide as to what to take common classes are corporations, evidence, tax, any bar subject, federal courts, con law II, employment etc. but i would just take whatever sounds interesting to you or whatever is a prerequisite to whatever sounds interesting to you.


Isn't there some new requirement for c/o 2019 and after? Thought it was admin.


Oh yeah they have to do like one practical course or whatever like an externship practicum or clinic or something

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Re: GULC Students Taking Questions

Postby Hand » Wed Jun 07, 2017 7:20 am

ladybug1989 wrote:Anyone have a Prof for Professional Responsibility that was easier on the curve? Heard the PR curve is pretty brutal.

the curve may look brutal but the class itself is a joke and if you take Tague for example you can just not go to class or read and rehash what other people wrote on old exams and still get an A

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Re: GULC Students Taking Questions

Postby Hand » Wed Jun 07, 2017 7:22 am

barkschool wrote:
buckiguy_sucks wrote:
barkschool wrote:shoot for 14 credits


Meh I might do more than this just to make 3lol extra 3lolish. I've got an 11 credit 3L spring planned and I wish I could've don't it fall too.


yo that's smart


I only took ~14 credits each semester this year and now need to take way too many next year, I recommend bucki's strategy of taking a little more now

barkschool wrote:I did my writing req. in 2L and I thought that was the best to get over quickly

agree, happy I got that box checked, although I actually like writing a paper more than taking an exam

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Re: GULC Students Taking Questions

Postby anonnymoose » Wed Jun 07, 2017 4:39 pm

For current GULC students-- incoming students just received access to our GULC emails. Do you happen to know if there's a way to change the alias so that it's not something like abc17@georgetown.edu? These aren't the most beautiful or professional-looking email addresses.

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Re: GULC Students Taking Questions

Postby TheSpanishMain » Wed Jun 07, 2017 5:49 pm

anonnymoose wrote:For current GULC students-- incoming students just received access to our GULC emails. Do you happen to know if there's a way to change the alias so that it's not something like abc17@georgetown.edu? These aren't the most beautiful or professional-looking email addresses.


I don't think so.

But I wouldn't stress it. If you don't get some job you're after, it won't be because your email address lacks fung shui. If it really bothers you, just make a separate gmail account that is FirstName.LastName or whatever.

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Re: GULC Students Taking Questions

Postby buckiguy_sucks » Wed Jun 07, 2017 6:24 pm

TheSpanishMain wrote:
anonnymoose wrote:For current GULC students-- incoming students just received access to our GULC emails. Do you happen to know if there's a way to change the alias so that it's not something like abc17@georgetown.edu? These aren't the most beautiful or professional-looking email addresses.


I don't think so.

But I wouldn't stress it. If you don't get some job you're after, it won't be because your email address lacks fung shui. If it really bothers you, just make a separate gmail account that is FirstName.LastName or whatever.


Yeah i never give out my Georgetown email to employers I just do my personal

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Re: GULC Students Taking Questions

Postby Londonbear » Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:45 am

anonnymoose wrote:For current GULC students-- incoming students just received access to our GULC emails. Do you happen to know if there's a way to change the alias so that it's not something like abc17@georgetown.edu? These aren't the most beautiful or professional-looking email addresses.


Nope. You cannot change it. And employers don't care.

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Re: GULC Students Taking Questions

Postby Gray » Thu Jun 08, 2017 1:57 pm

Hand wrote:
ladybug1989 wrote:Anyone have a Prof for Professional Responsibility that was easier on the curve? Heard the PR curve is pretty brutal.

the curve may look brutal but the class itself is a joke and if you take Tague for example you can just not go to class or read and rehash what other people wrote on old exams and still get an A

Keep this shit a secret, fuck.

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Re: GULC Students Taking Questions

Postby Throwaonetwothree » Thu Jun 08, 2017 4:06 pm

Overall 1L GPA: 3.04. Chances at big law if I purely gun for NYC with strong ties to the area and if I already have a callback at one firm?

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Re: GULC Students Taking Questions

Postby TheSpanishMain » Thu Jun 08, 2017 4:47 pm

Throwaonetwothree wrote:Overall 1L GPA: 3.04. Chances at big law if I purely gun for NYC with strong ties to the area and if I already have a callback at one firm?


I never interviewed with NYC firms, so take this with a grain of salt, but my sense is you still have a fighting chance if you A) are a decent interviewer and B) bid smart. Look for NYC firms with large class sizes that hire below median people. OCS should provide you with data on the GPAs of people hired by individual firms in the past.

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Re: GULC Students Taking Questions

Postby Throwaonetwothree » Thu Jun 08, 2017 5:02 pm

TheSpanishMain wrote:
Throwaonetwothree wrote:Overall 1L GPA: 3.04. Chances at big law if I purely gun for NYC with strong ties to the area and if I already have a callback at one firm?


I never interviewed with NYC firms, so take this with a grain of salt, but my sense is you still have a fighting chance if you A) are a decent interviewer and B) bid smart. Look for NYC firms with large class sizes that hire below median people. OCS should provide you with data on the GPAs of people hired by individual firms in the past.


OCS did. I know it's not going to be smooth sailing, but I'm still remaining decently optimistic. Thanks for the advice

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Re: GULC Students Taking Questions

Postby JustHawkin » Thu Jun 08, 2017 5:43 pm

Throwaonetwothree wrote:
TheSpanishMain wrote:
Throwaonetwothree wrote:Overall 1L GPA: 3.04. Chances at big law if I purely gun for NYC with strong ties to the area and if I already have a callback at one firm?


I never interviewed with NYC firms, so take this with a grain of salt, but my sense is you still have a fighting chance if you A) are a decent interviewer and B) bid smart. Look for NYC firms with large class sizes that hire below median people. OCS should provide you with data on the GPAs of people hired by individual firms in the past.


OCS did. I know it's not going to be smooth sailing, but I'm still remaining decently optimistic. Thanks for the advice


I did well at EIW with similar GPA. Feel free to shoot me a PM.

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Re: GULC Students Taking Questions

Postby SubmedianHomeskAlien » Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:43 pm

Kinda similar question to the one above. So the GPA took a dip in the Spring, and I ended up w/ a 3.21. Not the end of the world, but I don't exactly have any mitigating factors to fall back on, e.g. good work experience (graduated in 2015 & worked retail in between) or "softs" (resume is meh).

I was planning on targeting NY & my home market (relatively large secondary market). Would prefer the home market. Other than "bidding smart," emailing associates for coffee, and mass-mailing the crap out of all biglaw/midlaw firms in the general vicinity of the 2 aforementioned markets, is there any other advice that the OCI veterans wanna share?

Thanks guys!

EDIT: oh, and OCS did send out an excel sheet with GPA medians and general data on certain firms. But it doesn't include nearly all the firms that are actually coming to EIW. Is there somewhere to find more in depth info on this?
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Re: GULC Students Taking Questions

Postby biglawhopeful18 » Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:50 pm

SubmedianHomeskAlien wrote:Kinda similar question to the one above. So the GPA took a dip in the Spring, and I ended up w/ a 3.21. Not the end of the world, but I don't exactly have any mitigating factors to fall back on, e.g. good work experience (graduated in 2015 & worked retail in between) or "softs" (resume is meh).

I was planning on targeting NY & my home market (relatively large secondary market). Would prefer the home market. Other than "bidding smart," emailing associates for coffee, and mass-mailing the crap out all biglaw/midlaw firms in the general vicinity of the 2 aforementioned markets, is there any other advice that the OCI veterans wanna share?

Thanks guys!

EDIT: oh, and OCS did send out an excel sheet with GPA medians and general data on certain firms. But it doesn't include nearly all the firms that are actually coming to EIW. Is there somewhere to find more in depth info on this?



In addition to the things you mentioned:

1) Depending on where you're working this summer, ask a person of influence who you've done good work for to connect you or shop your resume around to biglaw friends
2) Follow up with attorneys you networked with at receptions and whatnot throughout the year
3) Go to the stupid firm events this summer
4) Scour your personal network (UG, extended fam, etc.) and your network's respective networks (hello LinkedIn) for leads

I was around your GPA and got cb's/offers from doing all 4 of these

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Re: GULC Students Taking Questions

Postby anonnymoose » Sat Jun 10, 2017 12:10 am

Can any current students talk about what the orientation schedule is like? I have to schedule a meeting for some place about half an hour away from GULC-- the entire thing will probably take 2 hours total-- during orientation week or the Saturday between orientation/first week of classes, and I'm afraid of missing an important/mandatory event.

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Re: GULC Students Taking Questions

Postby Prospect24 » Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:57 am

Anyone have any info or opinions on GULC vs GW for 1) evening programs and 2) foreign affairs & national security law?

Also what's the parking in the garage like after 5 for evening students?

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Re: GULC Students Taking Questions

Postby Hand » Sat Jun 10, 2017 12:09 pm

Prospect24 wrote:what's the parking in the garage like after 5 for evening students?

it's free after 5pm and there's always plenty of room (because you can park in admin spots as well)

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Re: GULC Students Taking Questions

Postby Hand » Sat Jun 10, 2017 12:09 pm

anonnymoose wrote:Can any current students talk about what the orientation schedule is like? I have to schedule a meeting for some place about half an hour away from GULC-- the entire thing will probably take 2 hours total-- during orientation week or the Saturday between orientation/first week of classes, and I'm afraid of missing an important/mandatory event.

I don't recall them taking names after the first day

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Re: GULC Students Taking Questions

Postby Capitol_Idea » Sat Jun 10, 2017 12:17 pm

Prospect24 wrote:Anyone have any info or opinions on GULC vs GW for 1) evening programs and 2) foreign affairs & national security law?

Also what's the parking in the garage like after 5 for evening students?
GULC has better Biglaw placement same as day program. Otherwise likely no significant difference.

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Re: GULC Students Taking Questions

Postby Prospect24 » Sat Jun 10, 2017 12:43 pm

Capitol_Idea wrote:
Prospect24 wrote:Anyone have any info or opinions on GULC vs GW for 1) evening programs and 2) foreign affairs & national security law?

Also what's the parking in the garage like after 5 for evening students?
GULC has better Biglaw placement same as day program. Otherwise likely no significant difference.


Currently working bigfed in a non legal role, but obviously there's a large legal framework around what we do. Interested in doing one of the two evening programs to have a better understanding of that framework and maybe eventually move into an internal legal role. I'd probably only do biglaw as a retirement gig from gov much farther down the road.

In this situation should I just go to whichever gives me more money because my grades will matter more than anything or would GULC give a bump?

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Re: GULC Students Taking Questions

Postby Prospect24 » Sat Jun 10, 2017 12:43 pm

Hand wrote:
Prospect24 wrote:what's the parking in the garage like after 5 for evening students?

it's free after 5pm and there's always plenty of room (because you can park in admin spots as well)


Awesome. Thank you!




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