Do not pay 300k to have my life

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Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life

Postby shock259 » Sat Feb 14, 2015 2:59 pm

Who stays in biglaw for 10 years..?

Also, lol @ 60 hours/week. NYC transactional here. I purposefully don't do the math because I don't want to know. But I've been at work until 12am, 1am, or 2am every night this week. Just had a 4 hour call this morning. I have another call this evening and some work to do after that. Oh, and I billed 10 hours last weekend also. My experience isn't atypical for when things get busy.

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Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life

Postby Desert Fox » Sat Feb 14, 2015 3:59 pm

shock259 wrote:Who stays in biglaw for 10 years..?

Also, lol @ 60 hours/week. NYC transactional here. I purposefully don't do the math because I don't want to know. But I've been at work until 12am, 1am, or 2am every night this week. Just had a 4 hour call this morning. I have another call this evening and some work to do after that. Oh, and I billed 10 hours last weekend also. My experience isn't atypical for when things get busy.


You guys have it the worst in NYC

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Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life

Postby ymmv » Sat Feb 14, 2015 4:01 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
shock259 wrote:Who stays in biglaw for 10 years..?

Also, lol @ 60 hours/week. NYC transactional here. I purposefully don't do the math because I don't want to know. But I've been at work until 12am, 1am, or 2am every night this week. Just had a 4 hour call this morning. I have another call this evening and some work to do after that. Oh, and I billed 10 hours last weekend also. My experience isn't atypical for when things get busy.


You guys have it the worst in NYC


I've heard transactional is the worst of all worlds. DC lit any better than NY lit though?

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Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life

Postby Desert Fox » Sat Feb 14, 2015 4:17 pm

ymmv wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
shock259 wrote:Who stays in biglaw for 10 years..?

Also, lol @ 60 hours/week. NYC transactional here. I purposefully don't do the math because I don't want to know. But I've been at work until 12am, 1am, or 2am every night this week. Just had a 4 hour call this morning. I have another call this evening and some work to do after that. Oh, and I billed 10 hours last weekend also. My experience isn't atypical for when things get busy.


You guys have it the worst in NYC


I've heard transactional is the worst of all worlds. DC lit any better than NY lit though?


Yea I think so. But its also a lot more specialized.

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Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life

Postby prezidentv8 » Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:19 pm

Seems like an appropriate place to put this anecdote:

/gets out of car at home after work
/does not see sister sitting in nearby car
/apparently makes forlorn-looking face
/sister says "What was that look on your face? You look so defeated."
/cringes inside

Make of that what you will.

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Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life

Postby rpupkin » Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:27 pm

prezidentv8 wrote:Seems like an appropriate place to put this anecdote:

/gets out of car at home after work
/does not see sister sitting in nearby car
/apparently makes forlorn-looking face
/sister says "What was that look on your face? You look so defeated."
/cringes inside

Make of that what you will.

Is the takeaway here that you live with your sister? Is this like the Paulie/Adrian situation in Rocky I?

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Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life

Postby prezidentv8 » Thu Feb 26, 2015 12:24 am

rpupkin wrote:
prezidentv8 wrote:Seems like an appropriate place to put this anecdote:

/gets out of car at home after work
/does not see sister sitting in nearby car
/apparently makes forlorn-looking face
/sister says "What was that look on your face? You look so defeated."
/cringes inside

Make of that what you will.

Is the takeaway here that you live with your sister? Is this like the Paulie/Adrian situation in Rocky I?


sort of. we all live at home.

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Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life

Postby Desert Fox » Thu Feb 26, 2015 1:12 am

prezidentv8 wrote:
rpupkin wrote:
prezidentv8 wrote:Seems like an appropriate place to put this anecdote:

/gets out of car at home after work
/does not see sister sitting in nearby car
/apparently makes forlorn-looking face
/sister says "What was that look on your face? You look so defeated."
/cringes inside

Make of that what you will.

Is the takeaway here that you live with your sister? Is this like the Paulie/Adrian situation in Rocky I?


sort of. we all live at home.


dunno whats worse

you live at home

or that im jealous u get to

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Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life

Postby baal hadad » Thu Feb 26, 2015 1:16 am

Desert Fox wrote:
prezidentv8 wrote:
rpupkin wrote:
prezidentv8 wrote:Seems like an appropriate place to put this anecdote:

/gets out of car at home after work
/does not see sister sitting in nearby car
/apparently makes forlorn-looking face
/sister says "What was that look on your face? You look so defeated."
/cringes inside

Make of that what you will.

Is the takeaway here that you live with your sister? Is this like the Paulie/Adrian situation in Rocky I?


sort of. we all live at home.


dunno whats worse

you live at home

or that im jealous u get to

naw bro i lived at home for a while it was bad

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Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life

Postby prezidentv8 » Thu Feb 26, 2015 1:19 am

Desert Fox wrote:
prezidentv8 wrote:
rpupkin wrote:
prezidentv8 wrote:Seems like an appropriate place to put this anecdote:

/gets out of car at home after work
/does not see sister sitting in nearby car
/apparently makes forlorn-looking face
/sister says "What was that look on your face? You look so defeated."
/cringes inside

Make of that what you will.

Is the takeaway here that you live with your sister? Is this like the Paulie/Adrian situation in Rocky I?


sort of. we all live at home.


dunno whats worse

you live at home

or that im jealous u get to


oh i love living home, it's awesome

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Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life

Postby Desert Fox » Thu Feb 26, 2015 1:33 am

baal hadad wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
prezidentv8 wrote:
rpupkin wrote:Is the takeaway here that you live with your sister? Is this like the Paulie/Adrian situation in Rocky I?


sort of. we all live at home.


dunno whats worse

you live at home

or that im jealous u get to

naw bro i lived at home for a while it was bad

sorry u come from an unloving home bra

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Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life

Postby baal hadad » Thu Feb 26, 2015 1:36 am

Desert Fox wrote:sorry u come from an unloving home bra

i see my folks quite a bit and dad is a lawyer so thats cool

but i dont like living with rules and stuff

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Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life

Postby JohannDeMann » Thu Feb 26, 2015 2:35 am

Well if you work in biglaw when would you ever be home and want to break the rules? Never would really come up. You'd be coming home and passing out or coming home and working.
I would take living at home right now. It gives you a little refuge.

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Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life

Postby Desert Fox » Thu Feb 26, 2015 2:42 am

JohannDeMann wrote:Well if you work in biglaw when would you ever be home and want to break the rules? Never would really come up. You'd be coming home and passing out or coming home and working.
I would take living at home right now. It gives you a little refuge.


What kind of family would make rules for their 28 year old son.

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Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life

Postby baal hadad » Thu Feb 26, 2015 2:56 am

Desert Fox wrote:
JohannDeMann wrote:Well if you work in biglaw when would you ever be home and want to break the rules? Never would really come up. You'd be coming home and passing out or coming home and working.
I would take living at home right now. It gives you a little refuge.


What kind of family would make rules for their 28 year old son.

I didn't like having to clean up after myself and my parents telling me not to wake em up when I came home later and stuff going upstairs

there was also a shame in being the only one in your age group living w parents

also it's not good w the ladies

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Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life

Postby DELG » Thu Feb 26, 2015 3:29 am

I would move my whole family into my parents' house if I could. In a millisecond. I am a millennial so obviously I embrace our post-shame society.

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Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life

Postby Desert Fox » Thu Feb 26, 2015 4:03 am

i actually forgot tht im going to live with my inlaws for 3 months

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Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life

Postby AReasonableMan » Fri Feb 27, 2015 6:00 pm

baal hadad wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
JohannDeMann wrote:Well if you work in biglaw when would you ever be home and want to break the rules? Never would really come up. You'd be coming home and passing out or coming home and working.
I would take living at home right now. It gives you a little refuge.


What kind of family would make rules for their 28 year old son.

I didn't like having to clean up after myself and my parents telling me not to wake em up when I came home later and stuff going upstairs

there was also a shame in being the only one in your age group living w parents

also it's not good w the ladies

may be partly causation v. correlation

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Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life

Postby JohannDeMann » Fri Feb 27, 2015 6:07 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
JohannDeMann wrote:Well if you work in biglaw when would you ever be home and want to break the rules? Never would really come up. You'd be coming home and passing out or coming home and working.
I would take living at home right now. It gives you a little refuge.


What kind of family would make rules for their 28 year old son.


i mean this too. my family would not. but to empathize with those with uncool families.

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Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life

Postby suboxoneman » Tue Mar 10, 2015 9:19 pm

loomy78 wrote:what should i do with my life?

25 yrs. net worth 60k. lib arts UG 4.0 GPA. masters in something like "environmental policy". no work experience besides internships.


1) determine what you both love doing and are good at doing(or as close apto a compromise of these as possible)
2) do whatever it takes to get useful experience in that

Because so far, you've rolled the dice on higher education twice(once for college, once for grad school) and missed both times. Going for a third spin at the higher education wheel(whether it's law school, another grad school, etc) seems like a poor choice.

To this point, what have you done to try getting useful experience?

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Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life

Postby JohannDeMann » Wed Mar 11, 2015 1:48 am

that dude looby is gainfully employed in his dream job. illustration A of not going to law school. meanwhile i woke up at 4am this morning and billed 20 fucking hours today illustration of B of going to law school.

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Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life

Postby loomy78 » Wed Mar 11, 2015 10:18 pm

suboxoneman wrote:
loomy78 wrote:what should i do with my life?

25 yrs. net worth 60k. lib arts UG 4.0 GPA. masters in something like "environmental policy". no work experience besides internships.


1) determine what you both love doing and are good at doing(or as close apto a compromise of these as possible)
2) do whatever it takes to get useful experience in that

Because so far, you've rolled the dice on higher education twice(once for college, once for grad school) and missed both times. Going for a third spin at the higher education wheel(whether it's law school, another grad school, etc) seems like a poor choice.

To this point, what have you done to try getting useful experience?


i actually landed a pretty sweet gig.

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Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life

Postby Total Litigator » Mon Apr 06, 2015 4:43 pm

loomy78 wrote:
suboxoneman wrote:
loomy78 wrote:what should i do with my life?

25 yrs. net worth 60k. lib arts UG 4.0 GPA. masters in something like "environmental policy". no work experience besides internships.


1) determine what you both love doing and are good at doing(or as close apto a compromise of these as possible)
2) do whatever it takes to get useful experience in that

Because so far, you've rolled the dice on higher education twice(once for college, once for grad school) and missed both times. Going for a third spin at the higher education wheel(whether it's law school, another grad school, etc) seems like a poor choice.

To this point, what have you done to try getting useful experience?


i actually landed a pretty sweet gig.


Do tell, good sir.

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Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life

Postby FloridaCoastalorbust » Mon Apr 06, 2015 4:59 pm

DF: 165k at NU, or 50k at UChi? Short term career goals are biglaw for 2 years. Long-term is lawyer in politics and maybe academia if I win law school. I have sufficient connections in the arcane political areas where I hope to eventually practice that make the prestige difference between UChi and NU probably a moot point (small political firms that specialize in 1st/5th/14th amendment stuff, which care far less about prestige than demonstrated interest and connections, which I have throughout undergrad and 3 years post-grad) . I'm 95% committed to NU, but think I would regret not going to UChi when I'm 50, when the $115k difference would be probably negligible. I conservatively average my salary over my 45 year career at $100k/yr, which is $4.5 mil pre-tax. So that makes the $115k tuition difference seem especially negligible. Also, my S/O will have a PhD and make six figs until she retires. Also, I should have sufficient connections to get an interesting job (paying 80k/yr + annual bonuses) if I am below median after law school graduation. I sound like I'm ahead of myself in terms of estimating my career chances but don't have the time or energy to justify my confidence in this post.

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Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life

Postby Desert Fox » Mon Apr 06, 2015 5:10 pm

FloridaCoastalorbust wrote:DF: 165k at NU, or 50k at UChi? Short term career goals are biglaw for 2 years. Long-term is lawyer in politics and maybe academia if I win law school. I have sufficient connections in the arcane political areas where I hope to eventually practice that make the prestige difference between UChi and NU probably a moot point (small political firms that specialize in 1st/5th/14th amendment stuff, which care far less about prestige than demonstrated interest and connections, which I have throughout undergrad and 3 years post-grad) . I'm 95% committed to NU, but think I would regret not going to UChi when I'm 50, when the $115k difference would be probably negligible. I conservatively average my salary over my 45 year career at $100k/yr, which is $4.5 mil pre-tax. So that makes the $115k tuition difference seem especially negligible. Also, my S/O will have a PhD and make six figs until she retires. Also, I should have sufficient connections to get an interesting job (paying 80k/yr + annual bonuses) if I am below median after law school graduation. I sound like I'm ahead of myself in terms of estimating my career chances but don't have the time or energy to justify my confidence in this post.


Thats 115k at what 7%? Thats a lot more than just 115k.

You also have to look at what the difference gets you. Probably nothing in this case.




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