Do not pay 300k to have my life

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Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life

Postby PeanutsNJam » Sun Jan 18, 2015 2:27 am

fats provolone wrote:
PeanutsNJam wrote:
UnamSanctam wrote:If you don't get that social interaction and climbing is more about friends helping friends than merit, you're gonna have a bad time in life. Like I get that you are a Burger King so you can't see it, but it's why what happened in this thread happened.


High school never ends. There's always going to be the "mean clique" at work, on TLS, in your pottery class, etc. You either have to choose your battles wisely, or have enough wealth/power/prestige to not give a fuck about anyone or anything.

tell us more about the tls mean girls and what quantity of power you need to not give a fuck about them


Idk I think you need to be 8/10 to stand a chance. I mean 7 is cute but not hot enough. Maybe if you have nice clothes it's like +1, and if you date a starter on one of the sports teams it's another +1.

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Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life

Postby starry eyed » Sun Jan 18, 2015 6:35 pm

PeanutsNJam wrote:
fats provolone wrote:
PeanutsNJam wrote:
UnamSanctam wrote:If you don't get that social interaction and climbing is more about friends helping friends than merit, you're gonna have a bad time in life. Like I get that you are a Burger King so you can't see it, but it's why what happened in this thread happened.


High school never ends. There's always going to be the "mean clique" at work, on TLS, in your pottery class, etc. You either have to choose your battles wisely, or have enough wealth/power/prestige to not give a fuck about anyone or anything.

tell us more about the tls mean girls and what quantity of power you need to not give a fuck about them


Idk I think you need to be 8/10 to stand a chance. I mean 7 is cute but not hot enough. Maybe if you have nice clothes it's like +1, and if you date a starter on one of the sports teams it's another +1.


what?

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Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life

Postby Desert Fox » Tue Jan 20, 2015 12:25 am

iowaguy wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:This fucking sucks. Not worth it at all. Go to silcon valley u nerds.

How did it cost you $300K?
Whats stopping you from going back to school now?
Once you are that deep in the hole, you might as well keep digging and then just IBR out until you die in your low paying dream job.


At graduation I had 264k in debt and I paid about 7k in tution out of pocket and blew about 8k of savings I had pre law school. Plus three years of my life, no saying for retirement, not investing in a house.

All said I bet my net work was 400k lower at graduation than it would have been if I had just keep working.

But this was 2010 tution and COL.

Someone starting in 2015 will probably have 350k in debt all said and done.

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Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life

Postby Zalphon » Wed Jan 21, 2015 12:28 am

I am a 0L (and will be for some time while I get my UG Degree) and thus my opinion should be taken with a grain of salt, but I would argue that it is largely up to Chemi what life choices she should, or should not, have made. Not people like iowaguy whom exist to her as faceless forum entities. If she chose to withdraw from Law School in favor of her family life, then I believe that begs the question: who are we to judge her?

That said, I believe that we must all make those decisions throughout our lives. And I don't believe that there is a right or wrong choice, as there is no black and white in real life (and I believe that those in the profession of Law know that quite well, but I may be mistaken). Continuing on that point, I would like to argue the notion that she can serve to benefit from the classes taken throughout the rest of her life (as I believe that the fundamentals of Law are relatively homeostatic throughout time, correct).

Now that I have said my (unsolicited, and likely undesired) piece, I would like to ask why is it that so many of those who take up the profession of Law loathe it so? From that which I have researched here, it is due to job prospects and difficulty of gaining meaningful employment without a bit of a sacrifice to BigLaw, or a permanent position in what many would (derogatorily) call ShitLaw. But doesn't anyone actually enjoy practicing Law? It seems like a profession where one undergoes a bit of a crucible (whether it be as an Associate in BigLaw, struggling to repay loans in PI Law, or trying to find the seemingly coveted MidLaw Opportunities), but these crucibles eventually do lead to rewards (e.g. Partnership or other opportunities (such as In-House), Loan Forgiveness, and the 45-60 Hour Work Week offered by MidLaw), or am I mistaken?

I genuinely am interested in pursuing this profession, but I would appreciate an (unbiased, positively or otherwise) review of what to expect as I progress through Law School and into the actual profession (preferably based upon one's personal experiences).

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Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life

Postby utahraptor » Wed Jan 21, 2015 12:31 am

don't go to law school

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Postby 03152016 » Wed Jan 21, 2015 12:37 am

Zalphon wrote:I am a 0L (and will be for some time while I get my UG Degree) and thus my opinion should be taken with a grain of salt, but I would argue that it is largely up to Chemi what life choices she should, or should not, have made.

you're really going out on a limb there

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Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life

Postby Zalphon » Wed Jan 21, 2015 12:40 am

Brut wrote:
Zalphon wrote:I am a 0L (and will be for some time while I get my UG Degree) and thus my opinion should be taken with a grain of salt, but I would argue that it is largely up to Chemi what life choices she should, or should not, have made.

you're really going out on a limb there



It is merely an admission that I am ignorant as to the level of sacrifice made to get as far as she did within Law School, but stating an opinion that she should not be criticized by random entities (with no knowledge of her life or choices up to that point beyond brief interaction) who claim to believe that they know better about the choices which she should have made.

That said, you may be right that I am going out on a limb...
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Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life

Postby utahraptor » Wed Jan 21, 2015 12:41 am

whose alt is this

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Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life

Postby PB&J.D. » Wed Jan 21, 2015 12:51 am

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Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life

Postby TatteredDignity » Wed Jan 21, 2015 12:58 am

Zalphon wrote:I am a 0L (and will be for some time while I get my UG Degree) and thus my opinion should be taken with a grain of salt, but I would argue that it is largely up to Chemi what life choices she should, or should not, have made. Not people like iowaguy whom exist to her as faceless forum entities. If she chose to withdraw from Law School in favor of her family life, then I believe that begs the question: who are we to judge her?

That said, I believe that we must all make those decisions throughout our lives. And I don't believe that there is a right or wrong choice, as there is no black and white in real life (and I believe that those in the profession of Law know that quite well, but I may be mistaken). Continuing on that point, I would like to argue the notion that she can serve to benefit from the classes taken throughout the rest of her life (as I believe that the fundamentals of Law are relatively homeostatic throughout time, correct).

Now that I have said my (unsolicited, and likely undesired) piece, I would like to ask why is it that so many of those who take up the profession of Law loathe it so? From that which I have researched here, it is due to job prospects and difficulty of gaining meaningful employment without a bit of a sacrifice to BigLaw, or a permanent position in what many would (derogatorily) call ShitLaw. But doesn't anyone actually enjoy practicing Law? It seems like a profession where one undergoes a bit of a crucible (whether it be as an Associate in BigLaw, struggling to repay loans in PI Law, or trying to find the seemingly coveted MidLaw Opportunities), but these crucibles eventually do lead to rewards (e.g. Partnership or other opportunities (such as In-House), Loan Forgiveness, and the 45-60 Hour Work Week offered by MidLaw), or am I mistaken?

I genuinely am interested in pursuing this profession, but I would appreciate an (unbiased, positively or otherwise) review of what to expect as I progress through Law School and into the actual profession (preferably based upon one's personal experiences).


Your writing style may serve you well if you ever write LR articles (because the prose in those is almost as stilted as yours), but you need to clean this up before your first set of exams.

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Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life

Postby Skool » Wed Jan 21, 2015 12:59 am

Going into deep debt to practice a profession you hate sucks. We get it .

Now when is everyone here going to either kill themselves or start building the lives they want.

Enough chit chat. You need your own help more than 0ls do. Happy to help trouble shoot suicide methods.

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Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life

Postby Zalphon » Wed Jan 21, 2015 1:04 am

TatteredDignity wrote:
Zalphon wrote:I am a 0L (and will be for some time while I get my UG Degree) and thus my opinion should be taken with a grain of salt, but I would argue that it is largely up to Chemi what life choices she should, or should not, have made. Not people like iowaguy whom exist to her as faceless forum entities. If she chose to withdraw from Law School in favor of her family life, then I believe that begs the question: who are we to judge her?

That said, I believe that we must all make those decisions throughout our lives. And I don't believe that there is a right or wrong choice, as there is no black and white in real life (and I believe that those in the profession of Law know that quite well, but I may be mistaken). Continuing on that point, I would like to argue the notion that she can serve to benefit from the classes taken throughout the rest of her life (as I believe that the fundamentals of Law are relatively homeostatic throughout time, correct).

Now that I have said my (unsolicited, and likely undesired) piece, I would like to ask why is it that so many of those who take up the profession of Law loathe it so? From that which I have researched here, it is due to job prospects and difficulty of gaining meaningful employment without a bit of a sacrifice to BigLaw, or a permanent position in what many would (derogatorily) call ShitLaw. But doesn't anyone actually enjoy practicing Law? It seems like a profession where one undergoes a bit of a crucible (whether it be as an Associate in BigLaw, struggling to repay loans in PI Law, or trying to find the seemingly coveted MidLaw Opportunities), but these crucibles eventually do lead to rewards (e.g. Partnership or other opportunities (such as In-House), Loan Forgiveness, and the 45-60 Hour Work Week offered by MidLaw), or am I mistaken?

I genuinely am interested in pursuing this profession, but I would appreciate an (unbiased, positively or otherwise) review of what to expect as I progress through Law School and into the actual profession (preferably based upon one's personal experiences).


Your writing style may serve you well if you ever write LR articles (because the prose in those is almost as stilted as yours), but you need to clean this up before your first set of exams.


Noted.

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Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life

Postby ExBiglawAssociate » Wed Jan 21, 2015 1:11 am

utahraptor wrote:don't go to law school

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Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life

Postby baal hadad » Wed Jan 21, 2015 1:28 am

Wahrheit wrote:Wow, this is worse than me. Even before I got my shit slapped around.

Naw your much more of a goober than that dude

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Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life

Postby mmelittlechicken » Wed Jan 21, 2015 1:33 am

baal hadad wrote:
Wahrheit wrote:Wow, this is worse than me. Even before I got my shit slapped around.

Naw your much more of a goober than that dude

is the other guy normal presenting?

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Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life

Postby PeanutsNJam » Wed Jan 21, 2015 4:29 am

So is Zalphon why dudes remain virgins despite being able to drop the "I'm HYSlawschool" bomb?

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Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life

Postby ChemEng1642 » Wed Jan 21, 2015 10:45 am

this thread was a good read

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Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life

Postby jever020 » Tue Jan 27, 2015 9:15 pm

This thread killed more of my brain cells than any brotastic party I've ever attended.

Again, thanks TLS.

Love you too bruh

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Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life

Postby Desert Fox » Tue Jan 27, 2015 9:18 pm

jever020 wrote:This thread killed more of my brain cells than any brotastic party I've ever attended.

Again, thanks TLS.

Love you too bruh


what do you mean

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Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life

Postby fats provolone » Tue Jan 27, 2015 9:21 pm

u notice there have been a lot of random 45 post bros defending biglaw lately

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Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life

Postby Desert Fox » Tue Jan 27, 2015 9:24 pm

April is when the stubbies will finally turn on biglaw.

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Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life

Postby AreJay711 » Tue Jan 27, 2015 9:24 pm

Fuck. I'm at work at 8:30 . . . big law must blow.

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Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life

Postby Total Litigator » Tue Jan 27, 2015 10:02 pm

federal employment + PAYE + PSLF.

Run, don't walk, to law school.

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Re: Do not pay 300k to have my life

Postby ymmv » Tue Jan 27, 2015 10:04 pm

Total Litigator wrote:federal employment + PAYE + PSLF.

Run, don't walk, to law school.


Thank god they just give away fed jobs like candy these days.




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