jbagelboy wrote: Psingh wrote:
zhenders wrote:It's true to say that the logic of this hypo is pretty awful, mate. It is pretty much a guarantee that the kind of person who is top 5% at any accredited law school would not be bottom 5% at a T14. Top 5% at any accredited school entails the kind of work ethic to at least put that person in the middle of the more prestigious schools; your logic suggests that you will either be in the bottom 5% of a T14 or the top of a T70(?). If you have the work ethic and dedication to be top 5% in any school, you won't be practically failing at a T14.
Ok fair enough. If this is the situation, it implies that the quality of education you receive at a T70 is pretty closely in line with that of a T14. So the average law student at a GSU has to put in almost the same amount of time and effort studying in law school than the average student at Duke let's say.
So what then is the fetish of "attend only T14 or you will die" that seems to be the consensus among all the forums and the lawyers I've talked to? If the quality of education is almost the same and you might even have to pay less money, why go to Duke over a T70?
Because "quality of education" is a flame. The sooner you/your family stop thinking of this as an intellectual/educational opportunity and start treating it properly as an investment (to which you have an objective fiduciary duty), the better for you and your progeny.
The only time the educational experience (profs, clinics, research centers, library, ect) should become a relevant variable is when choosing b/t schools with equivalent employment opportunities for your target region at comparable cost.
This is the truth. The reality is that at the end of the day, choosing to go to law school and spend the kind of money you'll spend MUST be based upon an investment mindset. I doubt there are more than a handful of people on TLS whose financial situations are such that they can attend law school for the experience.
The numbers are just plain as day; if you want to graduate, pay off you loans, and make a substantial (or adequate) living as a lawyer, the first data you should look at are the jobs numbers. Without a doubt, a number of TTTT's have some outstanding professors (at least in terms of teaching) that very well may rival or top some at T14 schools -- but even if every teacher at TTTT were "superior" teachers, if the jobs placement numbers are still what they are, you have to focus on that.
A quarter million dollars is a bit more than I can certainly afford to spend on anything less than something with a very, very high chance of substantial return.