LochnerMonster wrote:Howl wrote:Hi LochnerMonster and Cicero!
First, thanks so much for offering to answer questions!! I was just admitted Yale and am also trying to choose between HYS so your replies have been very helpful!
A couple of quick questions:
1) What are the living options like, and what would you estimate is the COL in New Haven? Is it close to the 17k listed on the website, or do you think it runs over/under?
2) On ATL, one alum commented that once the second semester starts, everyone becomes more gunnery. In your experience, is this true? Or does the collaborative atmosphere continue into the second semester and beyond?
Again, thanks a bunch! Your thoughtful answers are really making Yale more and more appealing as my final choice
1. Living options are pretty varied here. Some people live in apartments, others rent houses. I'm reluctant to give you an exact COL here, because I think it depends on how frugally you choose to live. Housing will run you anywhere from $450 - $1000 a month, depending on a) where you want to live and b) how picky you are about living with roommates. I live about a nine minute walk from the law school and my rent is on the low end of the spectrum. As for food, during the week you never need to buy lunch here (there are multiple free lunch lectures every day) and you often don't need to buy dinner either (for the same reason). Unless you bring a car, there are probably no transportation costs. So again, I think the COL can be very low here, but obviously that depends on you. If you insist on living alone in down town, and buying your own lunch/dinner every day, you'll be looking at a very different figure.
2. I haven't found my second semester to be more gunnery, but obviously the twin looming menaces of grades and clerkship applications make life less carefree. People are busier and have less free time, but seem just as friendly and collaborative as last semester -- at least, in my experience.
On 1), I think the COA estimate is a bit lower than what it actually costs first year. Moving is super expensive, and they don't account for all of those costs plus furnishing, security deposits, etc. Rent can also be pretty high downtown.
2) Gunna have to disagree with LM on this one. I think second semester, and in particular the journal process, have really brought out the gunner in many of my classmates. I had the misfortune of picking a couple gunner heavy classes though, so my view may be skewed by that. People are still friendly and collaborative and nice, because it's not a zero sum game here, but they're definitely still super strivey like law students everywhere. Also, by now people have stopped pretending that "grades never matter" and 2Ls are telling me that I better get at least one H if I want FIP to be a breeze and more Hs if I want a chance at clerkships and blahblahblah. The kool aid is watered down, but I wouldn't say it's gone entirely.