heyarnold wrote:How helpful is the OCIP in nyc/dc/cali? And does anybody know the success rate in 1L SA positions for ND students relative to the past couple years?
How competitive is the DC program? Is it mostly catered towards students who want fed work or rather those who are targeting big law?
This question is kinda scattershot, but I'll try to answer it the best I can. OCIP: I know a few people who got jobs this way, but my class was the first one coming out of the woods (the employment #s skyrocketed between 2013 to 2014, it went from around 30% fed clerkships + biglaw to more like 60%). It wouldn't surprise me if these became more successful as more firms took more people. Still, it's a way to go to a great school in Indiana and still get your face in front of more huge firms.
1L SA success rate: NDLS is a powerhouse in 2 realms-"conservative" federal judge clerkships and placing people in the biggest firm in a medium-sized town. I know lots of people who got 1L SA spots in medium-sized towns where they're from (Grand Rapids, Albuquerque, Sandusky). More people are getting jobs in bigger firms now that CDO has gotten much better, but those will still be the school's best bets. I'm sure some people with connections got biglaw 1L SA spots, but I don't think you should bet on it from any school. Besides, I think it can be better to get some diversity in experience your 1L summer.
DC program: I don't think this program is "competitive" in the sense that you need to be at the top of your class. They have meetings for this, Chicago, London, and wherever else you can do an externship. You go to the meetings, you sign up, they start looking for placements. I don't think it's a terribly big deal.