Phi Beta Kappa: consultation with faculty

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Re: Phi Beta Kappa: consultation with faculty

Postby t-14orbust » Fri Aug 09, 2013 3:05 pm

indo wrote:
t-14orbust wrote:The first random profile I clicked on did not have PBK

http://www.gibsondunn.com/lawyers/rcard

also, IIRC PBK only applies to liberal arts majors and only has chapters in 10% of institutions of higher learning.


If they earned PBK, they tend to list it Not everyone is able to earned PBK.

PBK is not requirement for Big Law , medium law or even admission to law school.


Ok, so we're in agreement? Cool

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Re: Phi Beta Kappa: consultation with faculty

Postby staples88 » Sat Aug 10, 2013 2:31 am

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Re: Phi Beta Kappa: consultation with faculty

Postby A. Nony Mouse » Sat Aug 10, 2013 10:07 am

staples88 wrote:so should I email the prof who might say something bad and ask him whether his evaluation might need some "clarification"?

No. 95% of the time profs evaluate stuff like this on the student's ability, not whether they like the student or agree with their politics. Students get way more freaked out about this kind of thing than they need to. Besides, if the prof is just out to get you (highly unlikely), what good is sending an email to ask going to do?

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Re: Phi Beta Kappa: consultation with faculty

Postby staples88 » Sun Aug 11, 2013 7:15 pm

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Re: Phi Beta Kappa: consultation with faculty

Postby A. Nony Mouse » Sun Aug 11, 2013 7:26 pm

staples88 wrote:one prof thought I was lazy and arrogant until the last day of the semester, when I volunteered to do more work than everybody else to raise my grade.
he also thinks I'm obsessed with grades.

How do you know this? Did he tell you, or is this your interpretation?

If you're asking a prof for a recommendation, you can ask whether they would be able to write you a strong recommendation. If the evaluation is program-initiated and not something you have to request, I think it looks a little weird to start asking profs what evaluation they'd give you. But yes, you could presumably ask if the prof would be willing to write you a strong recommendation for whatever the other program is. However, if that program uses different criteria from PBK the answer may not be that helpful.

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Re: Phi Beta Kappa: consultation with faculty

Postby dr123 » Sun Aug 11, 2013 8:37 pm

staples88 wrote:I'm not saying he wants to screw me over, but the pbk committee says they evaluate candidates' character too.

one prof thought I was lazy and arrogant until the last day of the semester, when I volunteered to do more work than everybody else to raise my grade.
he also thinks I'm obsessed with grades.

What I'm saying is, I can send him an email asking about another program that asks faculty for their opinion on students, not PBK because that would reinforce the obsession with grades thing. ask him if his evaluation might be detrimental, but phrasing the question neutrally so as to not offend him.

If the response isn't positive, then I can switch my major because the pbk committee only asks profs in your major dept. I'll switch it to another dept. where all the profs I've had have nothing but good things to say.


I think he might be right on that one, bro.

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Re: Phi Beta Kappa: consultation with faculty

Postby staples88 » Sun Aug 11, 2013 9:21 pm

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Re: Phi Beta Kappa: consultation with faculty

Postby kalvano » Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:11 am

How about you just make good grades and get into a good law school? That'll do far more for you than some fancy sorority.

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Re: Phi Beta Kappa: consultation with faculty

Postby staples88 » Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:37 am

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Re: Phi Beta Kappa: consultation with faculty

Postby Yukos » Mon Aug 12, 2013 1:08 am

You need to relax and focus on things you can control. Sending emails out trying to glean how a prof will go on something as secondary as PBK is bad form and might affect how other profs see you if your nemesis tells them about how hard you're gunning. Coming across like you do in this thread (ie as an insufferable gunner) in an interview with a firm would be much worse than not having PBK.

tl;dr go smoke some pot (you need it man) and let these things sort themselves out

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Re: Phi Beta Kappa: consultation with faculty

Postby staples88 » Mon Aug 12, 2013 1:53 am

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Re: Phi Beta Kappa: consultation with faculty

Postby staples88 » Mon Aug 12, 2013 2:00 am

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Re: Phi Beta Kappa: consultation with faculty

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