NY Law School --> Cali Firm?

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NY Law School --> Cali Firm?

Postby cutebookwormxoxo » Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:46 am

Hi, I was just wondering if it were possible/how the following would work. I'm going to law school in NY (Dozo) and I don't intend on transferring out, but I was wondering if I were interested in moving out west post graduation, how would I get into an LA firm? Is it possible/reasonable? Just thinking/wondering? I know how OCI and stuff works (mostly?), but I'm confused as to how that would translate across the country.
Thanks.

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Re: NY Law School --> Cali Firm?

Postby NYC2012 » Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:55 pm

You'll be competing with people from Stanford/Berkeley/USC/UCLA who want to stay in CA, along with lots of T14 people who are from there trying to make it back. It's not easy.

Some people work in NY offices of firms for a few years and then are able to transfer to the LA office.

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Re: NY Law School --> Cali Firm?

Postby PRgradBYU » Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:58 pm

http://www.lstscorereports.com/?school= ... b=location

To answer your inquiry as to the probability of practicing in Cali after graduation, it looks like only 2.3% of the C/O 2012 wound up with CA employment (see link above). In other words, your chances of ending up there are not great; you would have to be incredibly proactive (and lucky) to do so upon graduation.

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Re: NY Law School --> Cali Firm?

Postby jbagelboy » Fri Jul 26, 2013 1:34 pm

You'll be Hustlin' hustlin'

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Re: NY Law School --> Cali Firm?

Postby JamMasterJ » Fri Jul 26, 2013 1:37 pm

unless you have ties, none. With ties, slim

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Re: NY Law School --> Cali Firm?

Postby splitsplat » Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:07 pm

going to need somewhere in the ballpark of top 10% grades to get a look from california firms (assuming biglaw as the goal) from cardozo

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Re: NY Law School --> Cali Firm?

Postby NoWorries » Sat Jul 27, 2013 1:00 am

Without ties how realistic is it to get SF from say Harvard or CCN? Is it possible to work in NYC for 2 or 3 years and then transfer offices?

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Re: NY Law School --> Cali Firm?

Postby dr123 » Sat Jul 27, 2013 1:35 am

dont go to dozo.

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Re: NY Law School --> Cali Firm?

Postby michaelbluth » Wed Jul 31, 2013 5:02 am

cutebookwormxoxo wrote: I know how OCI and stuff works (mostly?), but I'm confused as to how that would translate across the country.
Thanks.


The thing is, there will be virtually no CA firms at Dozo's OCI. You'll be mostly on your own when it comes to finding a job in California, and that's going to be really, really rough. Someone above posted the LST 2-point-something percent of Dozo grads working in California stat, and I know it's probably tempting to say 'that's self-selection.' It may be, to a point, but it's also degree portability.

Don't go to Dozo unless you'll be happy working in NY when you graduate. If you want California, go to a school with a national reach or go to school in California. Dozo is neither.

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Re: NY Law School --> Cali Firm?

Postby kruiz88 » Wed Aug 14, 2013 5:33 pm

Cardozo has a special OCI for west coast firms in which you go to an OCI event on the West Coast. While very few Cardozo students go west, I know my legal writing TA got a biglaw position in California. His second summer he worked for a firm, and then was hired to work in their California office.

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Re: NY Law School --> Cali Firm?

Postby 052220151 » Wed Aug 14, 2013 7:36 pm

kruiz88 wrote:Cardozo has a special OCI for west coast firms in which you go to an OCI event on the West Coast. While very few Cardozo students go west, I know my legal writing TA got a biglaw position in California. His second summer he worked for a firm, and then was hired to work in their California office.


Very inspiring anecdote

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Re: NY Law School --> Cali Firm?

Postby timbs4339 » Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:09 pm

From CLS/NYU, sure.

What you need to do is get biglaw so you can either lateral within the firm or develop a skill set that will allow you to transfer between national firms. It's going to do you no good to work as a Suffolk County DA, learn the intricacies of the New York Penal Law, and then try to look for jobs in California. Your experience just won't translate.

But since so few Dozo grads get biglaw, retake is the best option.




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