Working as a lawyer part-time

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Younks
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Working as a lawyer part-time

Postby Younks » Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:39 am

Hey everyone,

I have a full ride lined up at SIU (I'll be a 1L in August) and I was thinking about graduation a bit (hopefully not to jinx myself) - have you ever heard of a part-time lawyer? I think it would be cool to work just enough to pay for living expenses and tuition to pursue a Masters or Doctorate or something, but I haven't heard of many people doing this. Maybe at like $50 an hour or something. I will only have about 20k in debt (400 a month) from living expenses so it shouldn't be too bad. Thoughts?

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Re: Working as a lawyer part-time

Postby Lacepiece23 » Tue Jul 16, 2013 10:28 am

Younks wrote:Hey everyone,

I have a full ride lined up at SIU (I'll be a 1L in August) and I was thinking about graduation a bit (hopefully not to jinx myself) - have you ever heard of a part-time lawyer? I think it would be cool to work just enough to pay for living expenses and tuition to pursue a Masters or Doctorate or something, but I haven't heard of many people doing this. Maybe at like $50 an hour or something. I will only have about 20k in debt (400 a month) from living expenses so it shouldn't be too bad. Thoughts?


Whose going to pay you 50 dollars an hour to be a lawyer part time? Maybe 20 dollars an hour for some doc review.

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Re: Working as a lawyer part-time

Postby Icculus » Tue Jul 16, 2013 10:36 am

Younks wrote:Hey everyone,

I have a full ride lined up at SIU (I'll be a 1L in August) and I was thinking about graduation a bit (hopefully not to jinx myself) - have you ever heard of a part-time lawyer? I think it would be cool to work just enough to pay for living expenses and tuition to pursue a Masters or Doctorate or something, but I haven't heard of many people doing this. Maybe at like $50 an hour or something. I will only have about 20k in debt (400 a month) from living expenses so it shouldn't be too bad. Thoughts?


This is a bad plan. First off, if you want a Master's or Doctorate, get one of those instead. Second, lawyers generally can't work part time, it's just not a profession that lends itself well to that. Third, who is going to pay a new lawyer, who knows nothing, and isn't assocoiated with another lawyer $50/hour? And what would they be paying you to do?

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Re: Working as a lawyer part-time

Postby A. Nony Mouse » Tue Jul 16, 2013 10:39 am

Also, any PhD program worth attending will pay your tuition and provide a stipend. If they don't, it's not worth going there.

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Re: Working as a lawyer part-time

Postby nealric » Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:12 pm

Hate to break it to you, but $50 an hour part time is not realistic. The only exception might be if you are fluent in Japanese (or similarly in-demand language) and get on a document review in that language. Even if you did, it wouldn't exactly be a lifelong career option.

Large firms do part time on a case by case basis (usually for those who have already proven themselves as full time associates), but "part time" means about 40 hours a week, and tends to kill upward mobility. Your chances of getting such a job from that school are exceedingly slim.

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Re: Working as a lawyer part-time

Postby PRgradBYU » Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:57 pm

Lacepiece23 wrote:Whose going to pay you 50 dollars an hour to be a lawyer part time?


nealric wrote:Hate to break it to you, but $50 an hour part time is not realistic.
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Your chances of getting such a job from that school are exceedingly slim.


+1 to all of this.

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Re: Working as a lawyer part-time

Postby lukertin » Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:08 pm

You could be a part-time lawyer at a legal clinic.

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Re: Working as a lawyer part-time

Postby cinephile » Thu Jul 18, 2013 12:31 am

Plenty of lawyers work part-time. If you're a solo, you're only working when you have clients, which likely won't be all the time. Or if you're lucky enough to get into a decent firm, some of them have part-time positions (non-partnership track) for working moms/parents.

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Re: Working as a lawyer part-time

Postby blsingindisguise » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:34 pm

cinephile wrote:Plenty of lawyers work part-time. If you're a solo, you're only working when you have clients, which likely won't be all the time. Or if you're lucky enough to get into a decent firm, some of them have part-time positions (non-partnership track) for working moms/parents.


Another classic 0L post.

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Re: Working as a lawyer part-time

Postby blsingindisguise » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:41 pm

cinephile wrote:Plenty of lawyers work part-time. If you're a solo, you're only working when you have clients, which likely won't be all the time. Or if you're lucky enough to get into a decent firm, some of them have part-time positions (non-partnership track) for working moms/parents.


But to be more specific:

No, "plenty" of lawyers do not work part-time. If you're a solo right out of law school you're not even going to have enough clients to work part-time, but you'll need to spend the rest of the time finding enough clients to pay you even the equivalent of a part-time salary. And true "mommy-track" positions are extremely rare, and are generally a pathway out of the firm unless a person is really invaluable or excellent.

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Re: Working as a lawyer part-time

Postby cinephile » Mon Jul 29, 2013 1:09 pm

blsingindisguise wrote:
cinephile wrote:Plenty of lawyers work part-time. If you're a solo, you're only working when you have clients, which likely won't be all the time. Or if you're lucky enough to get into a decent firm, some of them have part-time positions (non-partnership track) for working moms/parents.


Another classic 0L post.


Thanks, I'm a 3L and know numerous working lawyers who only work part-time. If you don't have this experience that's fine, but doesn't negate the experience of others. Nearly every one of my parents' friends who work in law do so part-time on the "mommy-track" as you put it. It's really common where I grew up.

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Re: Working as a lawyer part-time

Postby blsingindisguise » Mon Jul 29, 2013 1:12 pm

cinephile wrote:
blsingindisguise wrote:
cinephile wrote:Plenty of lawyers work part-time. If you're a solo, you're only working when you have clients, which likely won't be all the time. Or if you're lucky enough to get into a decent firm, some of them have part-time positions (non-partnership track) for working moms/parents.


Another classic 0L post.


Thanks, I'm a 3L and know numerous working lawyers who only work part-time. If you don't have this experience that's fine, but doesn't negate the experience of others. Nearly every one of my parents' friends who work in law do so part-time on the "mommy-track" as you put it. It's really common where I grew up.


There's a huge difference between doing part-time wills and estates work after practicing ten years or more and "getting a part-time job" paying $50 an hour out of school. Sure, there are lots of experienced suburban solos making a decent living from their niche without breaking their backs. You can't really discount survivor bias in looking at those people though, and in any case, it's not a lifestyle available when you're right out of school.




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