Recently Graduated UT Law Student taking questions

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Re: Recently Graduated UT Law Student taking questions

Postby BasilHallward » Sun Jan 10, 2016 3:34 pm

Thanks for the info Mojo. I've heard that Levinson is very unorthodox

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Re: Recently Graduated UT Law Student taking questions

Postby BVest » Sun Jan 10, 2016 5:52 pm

Hikikomorist wrote:Dumb question: is there a volunteer-hours requirement to receive summer funding through the school?

Do you mean TLF grants? Yes, 400 hours.

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Re: Recently Graduated UT Law Student taking questions

Postby cannibal ox » Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:00 pm

BVest wrote:
Hikikomorist wrote:Dumb question: is there a volunteer-hours requirement to receive summer funding through the school?

Do you mean TLF grants? Yes, 400 hours.


I believe the question was a result of this post, and is about an hour requirement before getting funding, not the requirement of hours worked during the summer. But correct me if I'm wrong, Hikiko.

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Re: Recently Graduated UT Law Student taking questions

Postby Hikikomorist » Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:13 pm

cannibal ox wrote:
BVest wrote:
Hikikomorist wrote:Dumb question: is there a volunteer-hours requirement to receive summer funding through the school?

Do you mean TLF grants? Yes, 400 hours.


I believe the question was a result of this post, and is about an hour requirement before getting funding, not the requirement of hours worked during the summer. But correct me if I'm wrong, Hikiko.

You got it right. Sorry about my poor phrasing, BVest.

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Re: Recently Graduated UT Law Student taking questions

Postby BVest » Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:14 pm

Ah, you mean like work you have to do on behalf of TLF in order to be eligible? Yeah, I don't think there's that.

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Re: Recently Graduated UT Law Student taking questions

Postby yankees12345! » Sun Jan 10, 2016 7:01 pm

I'm trying to estimate my class rank after the first semester. Apparently UT does not make this easy, however. This information might be helpful for people seeking to understand their relative position in the class, which is a useful metric for estimating honors, summer placement, law review and clerkship prospects.

From what I've gathered, top 10% at graduation (order of the coif) is usually around 3.8, give or take a few hundredths of a point. However, this isn't a great measure for 1L rankings because there is some grade inflation over time, which at least raises the median at graduation above the 3.3 median first semester. It also seems that there are more data points in the middle of the curve than in a standard distribution, making the ends a little thinner than a typical gpa/rank calculator might use.

Please feel free to chime in and improve upon on this understanding. It is mostly pieced together from the sources listed below, which are posts where good people have preserved previously available NALP datasets.

That leads to my question, then, which is that a 3.84 should be solidly within the top ten percent at this point, right?

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Recent Order of the Coif Numbers: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 5#p8756727
2014 Academic Awards Numbers: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 7&t=246461
Older, but Good Discussion: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... p?t=176552

Post Script: I know we're not supposed to list or claim a specific class ranks on resumes, etc.

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Re: Recently Graduated UT Law Student taking questions

Postby BVest » Sun Jan 10, 2016 7:19 pm

Class of 2016 after two semesters: 3.37 = 50%; 3.63 = 25%
Class of 2015 after four semesters: 3.40 = 50%; 3.64 = 25%
Class of 2015 final coif: 3.82
Class of 2015 Magna: >3.90

hth

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Re: Recently Graduated UT Law Student taking questions

Postby Fauken » Wed Jan 13, 2016 6:12 pm

Hello! Thank you for answering questions!

I'm an EE a year away from graduating. Needless to say, I'm very interested in your opinion on the IP program at UT. Did you also know anyone who applied ED (in state)? Do you think it's wise? Does the admissions office forgive lower grade points from engineers (mine is a 3.2-3.3 I think)?

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Re: Recently Graduated UT Law Student taking questions

Postby vsp789 » Wed Jan 13, 2016 7:39 pm

Does anyone have any insight if a 3.4-3.6 GPA is good enough for biglaw? Had a couple of interviews already and just sent out my grades, just curious if my GPA will now kill my chances.

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Re: Recently Graduated UT Law Student taking questions

Postby WokeUpInACar » Wed Jan 13, 2016 8:06 pm

vsp789 wrote:Does anyone have any insight if a 3.4-3.6 GPA is good enough for biglaw? Had a couple of interviews already and just sent out my grades, just curious if my GPA will now kill my chances.

1L Biglaw? Very unlikely unless you are a minority or have major connections. For 2L summer? You're in fine but not great shape. Your grades won't kill you for most firms, but you'll have to be a decent interviewer.

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Re: Recently Graduated UT Law Student taking questions

Postby BigZuck » Wed Jan 13, 2016 8:11 pm

WokeUpInACar wrote:
vsp789 wrote:Does anyone have any insight if a 3.4-3.6 GPA is good enough for biglaw? Had a couple of interviews already and just sent out my grades, just curious if my GPA will now kill my chances.

1L Biglaw? Very unlikely unless you are a minority or have major connections. For 2L summer? You're in fine but not great shape. Your grades won't kill you for most firms, but you'll have to be a decent interviewer.

Yeah I agree. I also think there's a pretty substantial difference between a 3.6 and a 3.4, at least with some firms. 3.5 seems to be pretty magical at some places.

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Re: Recently Graduated UT Law Student taking questions

Postby cannibal ox » Wed Jan 13, 2016 8:12 pm

*cough*BakerBotts

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Re: Recently Graduated UT Law Student taking questions

Postby Poldy » Wed Jan 13, 2016 8:13 pm

Once you get above the interview floor, how much does a higher GPA actually help? Does it become all about the interview after that or does GPA continue to play a big role?

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Re: Recently Graduated UT Law Student taking questions

Postby cannibal ox » Wed Jan 13, 2016 8:16 pm

You're going to get a lot of anecdotal answers that won't be very helpful in the long-run. But something that can't be disputed is how important interviewing skills are, so do mock interviews, meet with CSO (Montoya I hear is the biglaw whisperer), practice with a friend, videotape yourself, or whatever else you can think of to tighten your interview skills. Once you're in the door, a 4.0 GPA won't save an inept interviewer, but a great interview will probably boost a low GPA candidate.

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Re: Recently Graduated UT Law Student taking questions

Postby vsp789 » Wed Jan 13, 2016 8:48 pm

cannibal ox wrote:*cough*BakerBotts


For a 1L? I really like them!

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Re: Recently Graduated UT Law Student taking questions

Postby sollos » Fri Jan 15, 2016 1:27 pm

So, I saw UT has a Pro Bono pledge you can make. And the benchmarks they give are 10 hours your first year, and then 20 hours your second and third year.

As soon as I get down to Austin I'd want to start doing some pro bono hours, but can you actually start as a first semester 1L, or do you have to wait until second semester after you've taken a few classes to be useful?

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Re: Recently Graduated UT Law Student taking questions

Postby Hikikomorist » Fri Jan 15, 2016 1:34 pm

sollos wrote:So, I saw UT has a Pro Bono pledge you can make. And the benchmarks they give are 10 hours your first year, and then 20 hours your second and third year.

As soon as I get down to Austin I'd want to start doing some pro bono hours, but can you actually start as a first semester 1L, or do you have to wait until second semester after you've taken a few classes to be useful?

There are a bunch of first-semester 1L opportunities.

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Re: Recently Graduated UT Law Student taking questions

Postby BigZuck » Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:06 pm

vsp789 wrote:
cannibal ox wrote:*cough*BakerBotts


For a 1L? I really like them!

Probably not for a 1L unless you have something else going for you (diverse, connections, hot girl, etc)

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Re: Recently Graduated UT Law Student taking questions

Postby vsp789 » Sat Jan 16, 2016 1:00 am

BigZuck wrote:
vsp789 wrote:
cannibal ox wrote:*cough*BakerBotts


For a 1L? I really like them!

Probably not for a 1L unless you have something else going for you (diverse, connections, hot girl, etc)


first generation and a minority so fingers crossed

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Re: Recently Graduated UT Law Student taking questions

Postby Hikikomorist » Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:35 pm

Is positive feedback from mock interviews legitimate, or are they just instructed not to offer criticism?

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Re: Recently Graduated UT Law Student taking questions

Postby cannibal ox » Thu Jan 21, 2016 11:05 pm

I've heard of people getting criticized in mocks, though it usually comes with like 3 positive comments.

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Re: Recently Graduated UT Law Student taking questions

Postby BigZuck » Thu Jan 21, 2016 11:17 pm

Weil is the only one I remember being helpful with the constructive criticism, the others were pretty fluffy

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Re: Recently Graduated UT Law Student taking questions

Postby Hikikomorist » Tue Jan 26, 2016 6:13 pm

What's the best journal to join next year for free food:work ?

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Re: Recently Graduated UT Law Student taking questions

Postby cannibal ox » Tue Jan 26, 2016 8:43 pm

You should join FedSoc.

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Re: Recently Graduated UT Law Student taking questions

Postby kangaroo430 » Tue Mar 22, 2016 8:53 pm

Hi, I've got two questions.

1. How do you like the no-ranking policy in UT? Will that hurt your employment/transfer prospects?

2. What kind of national placement power does UT Law have? I feel people have been underestimating it for some time. :shock:

Thanks in advance!




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