Career implications of no interest in NYC?

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Career implications of no interest in NYC?

Postby Purplebook » Sun Jun 23, 2013 12:30 pm

SO, I visited NYC for the fifth time a few days ago, and I just cannot see myself wanting to live or work there. Everyone keeps saying it's the best place to start a career. How true is this?

Also, I really have no ties to anywhere to speak of as my family moved around a lot. Does this mean that for better or worse, it's NYC for me?

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Re: Career implications of no interest in NYC?

Postby californiauser » Sun Jun 23, 2013 12:33 pm

Are you a current law student? It depends on your school...you haven't given us enough information to work with.

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Re: Career implications of no interest in NYC?

Postby Hutz_and_Goodman » Sun Jun 23, 2013 12:33 pm

Its retarded to go there if you don't want to. But it's the center of the law in the U.S.. The top 8 Vault firms are headquartered there, and probably something like 30 of the top 40 firms have their HQ there. But there are plenty of lawyers making huge $, doing interesting work, and doing things much harder to do in NYC than other places (become a judge, open your own firm) elsewhere.

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Re: Career implications of no interest in NYC?

Postby Purplebook » Sun Jun 23, 2013 12:40 pm

californiauser wrote:Are you a current law student? It depends on your school...you haven't given us enough information to work with.



I will be starting Northwestern this fall.

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Re: Career implications of no interest in NYC?

Postby cinephile » Sun Jun 23, 2013 12:52 pm

So you can target Chicago and anywhere you can demonstrate ties, like undergrad.

If you'd be miserable in New York, it doesn't make sense to torture yourself -- your unhappiness would probably be reflected in your work anyway.

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Re: Career implications of no interest in NYC?

Postby guano » Sun Jun 23, 2013 12:57 pm

Hutz_and_Goodman wrote:Its retarded to go there if you don't want to. But it's the center of the law in the U.S.. The top 8 Vault firms are headquartered there, and probably something like 30 of the top 40 firms have their HQ there. But there are plenty of lawyers making huge $, doing interesting work, and doing things much harder to do in NYC than other places (become a judge, open your own firm) elsewhere.

Without getting into a discussion on Vault rankings, NYC is the epicenter for transactional work, and if you want that, not liking NY will not limit your career, but will narrow your opportunities. On the other hand, Chicago (or any major market) is no slouch either, so it's not the end of the world.
With respect to litigation, NY is a lot less important (though still #1)

Now if you were interested in Ibanking, that'd be a different story

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Re: Career implications of no interest in NYC?

Postby quakeroats » Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:16 pm

Purplebook wrote:SO, I visited NYC for the fifth time a few days ago, and I just cannot see myself wanting to live or work there. Everyone keeps saying it's the best place to start a career. How true is this?

Also, I really have no ties to anywhere to speak of as my family moved around a lot. Does this mean that for better or worse, it's NYC for me?


What is it you don't like about New York?

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Re: Career implications of no interest in NYC?

Postby NYstate » Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:52 pm

Working in New York is different than visiting.

Because New York is the largest employer by far you should consider that you may have no choice but to live in New York. Legal hiring is tough even from Northwestern. You would be foolish to ignore your best shot of getting a job.

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Re: Career implications of no interest in NYC?

Postby Purplebook » Sun Jun 23, 2013 2:38 pm

NYstate wrote:Working in New York is different than visiting.

Because New York is the largest employer by far you should consider that you may have no choice but to live in New York. Legal hiring is tough even from Northwestern. You would be foolish to ignore your best shot of getting a job.


I'll definitely apply to jobs in NYC; it's just that I would prefer not to live there. I am going to explore whether living in Long Island or somewhere similar, but working in NYC would make the prospect less distasteful to me.

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Re: Career implications of no interest in NYC?

Postby PMan99 » Sun Jun 23, 2013 3:02 pm

If you get good grades and can spin why you want to work in Chi (or another major market) then it shouldn't matter.

If you end up at median and prefer biglaw over not wanting to work in NYC you'd be foolish not to bid heavily on NYC.

If you have offers in multiple cities I'm not sure how true it is that it's the best place to start a career. It really comes down to the differences in firms and what practice area you want to be in.

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Re: Career implications of no interest in NYC?

Postby Purplebook » Sun Jun 23, 2013 3:20 pm

PMan99 wrote:If you get good grades and can spin why you want to work in Chi (or another major market) then it shouldn't matter.

If you end up at median and prefer biglaw over not wanting to work in NYC you'd be foolish not to bid heavily on NYC.

If you have offers in multiple cities I'm not sure how true it is that it's the best place to start a career. It really comes down to the differences in firms and what practice area you want to be in.


Sounds good. Thanks.

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Re: Career implications of no interest in NYC?

Postby guano » Sun Jun 23, 2013 3:37 pm

PMan99 wrote:If you get good grades and can spin why you want to work in Chi (or another major market) then it shouldn't matter.

If you end up at median and prefer biglaw over not wanting to work in NYC you'd be foolish not to bid heavily on NYC.

If you have offers in multiple cities I'm not sure how true it is that it's the best place to start a career. It really comes down to the differences in firms and what practice area you want to be in.

As an example, don't go to NY if you want to target oil & gas

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Re: Career implications of no interest in NYC?

Postby RoaringMice » Tue Jun 25, 2013 10:37 am

Purplebook wrote:
NYstate wrote:Working in New York is different than visiting.

Because New York is the largest employer by far you should consider that you may have no choice but to live in New York. Legal hiring is tough even from Northwestern. You would be foolish to ignore your best shot of getting a job.


I'll definitely apply to jobs in NYC; it's just that I would prefer not to live there. I am going to explore whether living in Long Island or somewhere similar, but working in NYC would make the prospect less distasteful to me.


There are major legal markets in other cities. Apply for jobs in Chicago, Boston, etc.

If you do decide to work in NYC, live outside the city, as you suggested yourself. You can live in NJ, on Long Island, in Westchester, in CT, and still be in the city by train in 30-45 minutes.




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