utlaw2007 wrote:So are you saying that making good grades trumps actual mastering of the subject matter? Because the two do not go hand in hand. Or are you just trying to start an argument?
That's not what I was saying but I sort of agree with that anyway. Ideally you would both get good grades and master the subject matter but, if I had to choose only one, I'd choose getting good grades (which usually requires mastering the subject matter anyway).
utlaw2007 wrote:"Good money" is relative. Apparently, you've never struggled financially. I would assume that everyone wants to be in a position so that he/she doesn't have to struggle financially. And who the hell wants to be a lawyer but doesn't mind being an incompetent one? I did address that, as well.
Not sure how you inferred that I've never struggled financially from what I've said. I agree with everything you said in this quote but I think the problem was that you didn't define "good money." To me, good money implies making a lot more beyond simply not struggling financially. Of course nobody wants to struggle but a lot of people don't care if they're making biglaw-type salaries (for example).
utlaw2007 wrote:Clearly, you didn't get all of what I was trying to say. In addition to me saying that law school is basically a stepping stone, which you did get, I was making a point to say that there is no use stressing about grades because good ones do not automatically mean you will be a good lawyer. And vice versa. If you make good grades at a good law school, it's likely that you will be a good lawyer, but the two, making good grades and being a good lawyer, are not synonymous. Good grades will get you a job, but good grades won't keep that job for you.
I've seen this first hand. I'm basically saying that stressing about grades is futile because making good grades and getting a lawyer job is only the beginning. You have to keep that job by becoming a reliable, competent attorney. If you don't, and grades have absolutely nothing to do with this aspect of practicing law, you won't continue to make money, period.
The gist of my point, which you did not get at all, was to say that OP should keep all of this in perspective and not lose sight of the big picture. When you are in court, getting ready to get your a$$ whooped or whoop someone else's a$$, or aiding in the structuring of a deal, NO ONE is going to give two shits about what kind of grades you made in law school.
Ah ok. That clarifies your previous post but I still don't think it's very relevant here. Nobody is arguing that getting good grades makes someone a good lawyer or vice versa. However, to simply not care about grades because they don't matter as much in the long run is just silly. You even pointed out that good grades are important for getting a job (and will not keep that job for you). But the only point of law school is to get you a job and it's impossible to be a good lawyer without a job. So grades are very important.
The real point is that there is no point in worrying about grades because you cannot predict how well you will do. One must simply put in his or her best effort and let the chips fall where they may. But to throw up your hands and say "who cares about grades because it has little bearing on how good I will be as a lawyer" misses the point. You will have a tougher time being a lawyer in the first place if you don't get good grades (depending on the school). You can worry about being a good lawyer once you're in practice.
utlaw2007 wrote:If you still don't think that is wise advice, then you will learn the hard way once you are out in practice. That's of course, if you ever make it to becoming an attorney.
I'm actually in pretty good shape. Thanks for your concern.