Lawyers v. Politicians

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LaBarrister
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Lawyers v. Politicians

Postby LaBarrister » Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:45 pm

Where do professional politicians and lawyers cross the line when it comes to bullshit and power/money grabbing?


Edit:

Okay, let me clarify a little. Where do professional politicians and lawyers really distinguish themselves from one another? The reason is because I want to be a lawyer mostly because of the writing aspect of the job, the long hours, the interaction with clients, and the high (above average) pay.

But I cannot stand politicians.

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Re: Lawyers v. Politicians

Postby rinkrat19 » Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:52 pm

The vast majority of lawyers never become politicians.

hth

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Re: Lawyers v. Politicians

Postby LaBarrister » Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:59 pm

rinkrat19 wrote:The vast majority of lawyers never become politicians.

hth


Okay. So you acknowledge the existence of a distinction, I think.

How are they really different on the inside?

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Re: Lawyers v. Politicians

Postby rinkrat19 » Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:01 am

LaBarrister wrote:
rinkrat19 wrote:The vast majority of lawyers never become politicians.

hth


Okay. So you acknowledge the existence of a distinction, I think.

How are they really different on the inside?

This is a stupid question.

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Re: Lawyers v. Politicians

Postby A. Nony Mouse » Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:02 am

Why do you think they're comparable?

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Re: Lawyers v. Politicians

Postby Typhoon24 » Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:02 am

on the inside? every lawyer is different. same thing with politicians. don't waste your time with generalizations.

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Re: Lawyers v. Politicians

Postby LaBarrister » Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:07 am

Typhoon24 wrote:on the inside? every lawyer is different. same thing with politicians. don't waste your time with generalizations.


Yeah. I should shut up.

No one wants me one here with my random musings.

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Re: Lawyers v. Politicians

Postby LaBarrister » Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:11 am

A. Nony Mouse wrote:Why do you think they're comparable?


They just deal with the abstract. There is always one side arguing this, and another arguing that... back and forth.

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Re: Lawyers v. Politicians

Postby stillwater » Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:18 am

LaBarrister wrote:
A. Nony Mouse wrote:Why do you think they're comparable?


They just deal with the abstract. There is always one side arguing this, and another arguing that... back and forth.


too much free time dood

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Re: Lawyers v. Politicians

Postby suralin » Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:28 am

LaBarrister wrote:
A. Nony Mouse wrote:Why do you think they're comparable?


They just deal with the abstract. There is always one side arguing this, and another arguing that... back and forth.


LOL. Because there are only two professions that "just deal with the abstract" and "[argue] back and forth."

From that perspective, might as well compare lawyers with scientists, humanities professors, philosophers, etc.

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Re: Lawyers v. Politicians

Postby LaBarrister » Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:23 am

Suralin wrote:
LaBarrister wrote:
A. Nony Mouse wrote:Why do you think they're comparable?


They just deal with the abstract. There is always one side arguing this, and another arguing that... back and forth.


LOL. Because there are only two professions that "just deal with the abstract" and "[argue] back and forth."

From that perspective, might as well compare lawyers with scientists, humanities professors, philosophers, etc.


Yeah, pretty much.

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Re: Lawyers v. Politicians

Postby dingbat » Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:29 am

(still not the dumbest thread on TLS)

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Re: Lawyers v. Politicians

Postby WhiteyCakes » Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:32 am

dingbat wrote:(still not the dumbest thread on TLS)


...but making a strong push towards that goal

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Re: Lawyers v. Politicians

Postby cinephile » Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:00 am

I believe most people are the same on the inside. There's not really a distinct difference between any group and their internal psychologies save for the difference between non-hipsters and hipsters.

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Re: Lawyers v. Politicians

Postby manofjustice » Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:54 am

LaBarrister wrote:Where do professional politicians and lawyers cross the line when it comes to bullshit and power/money grabbing?


Edit:

Okay, let me clarify a little. Where do professional politicians and lawyers really distinguish themselves from one another? The reason is because I want to be a lawyer mostly because of the writing aspect of the job, the long hours, the interaction with clients, and the high (above average) pay.

But I cannot stand politicians.


It's silly to say lawyers have high (above average) pay when most law graduates don't get jobs as lawyers but instead labor in average jobs under bone-crushing debt.

While it may be statistically true that an employed lawyer in the middle of his career makes more, eliding debt, than the average adult, that is a) not saying much and b) irrelevant to the decision to endeavor to become a law school graduate three years' hence.

To your question: there is no difference between a lawyer and a politician, but the similarity is not the bull shit. It's the persuasion. While a lawyer may sound less "bull-shitty," he is still only as effective as he is persuasive, just as a politician, and lawyers, judges, and jurors need to be "handled" just like any other emotionally cogitating human, and are not strictly rational beings.

But you won't have to worry about persuading judges and jurors much because even if you get a job as a lawyer, you very likely won't be in the courtroom. Your most important job will be persuading your boss, just like in a regular job.

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Re: Lawyers v. Politicians

Postby Ludo! » Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:56 am

The reason you want to be a lawyer is because of the long hours?

Explain this bullshit

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Re: Lawyers v. Politicians

Postby dingbat » Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:00 pm

Lawyer - sounds like "liar"
Politician - professional liar

I think that's where the overlap ends




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