midwestlawstudent wrote:Does anyone know anything about Dorsey going to 115,000 for starting salaries next year?
On this note:
1) which Twin cities area large law firms take 1L SA's?
2) do any pay market (assuming not), and if not, what is the SA pay structure?
3) what are the hours like for SAs in the twin cities?
I realize these q's are a little tangential to the OP, but I'll be mass mailing minnesota firms in december in addition to my other secondary market so I'm quite curious. Thanks for the info!
Just to focus first on the theme of this thread first. In general, I think going to UMN carries significant
reputational advantage over the other Minnesota law schools and this is a real thing. If you go to one of the other three, you'll always have a bit of a chip on your shoulder, whereas in Minnesota the U clearly leads the pack. If you look at summer associate classes in the Twin Cities, UMN students are the plurality and vastly outnumber the other local schools. Outside of Minnesota, I think a law degree from UMN is relatively more portable than degrees from the other three MN law schools (UMN students can summer at prominent coastal firms, e.g. Cravath). Let me be clear: this is not to say that if you go to UMN you won't have to work hard to get good grades--you still have to be well within the top quartile
, interview reasonably well, and possibly have other things going on (e.g. law review/journal, or work experience, or URM, or science background, etc.) to get a biglaw SA position in-state, or out-of-state. But there will be more opportunities coming out of UMN than any other law school in the region.
1) Depends on whether you are URM. If so, getting a 1L summer associate position is easier--although you still need great grades. All of the big and some mid-size firms will take 1Ls, and some of the larger corporations will too, e.g. Dorsey, Faegre, Robins, Fredrickson, GPM, UHG, Target, etc. Google or ask Career Services about the established hiring/interview programs available for minority 1Ls.
If you are not URM, some firms still take 1L SAs if you have truly exceptional grades. Off the top of my head I am thinking Leonard Street and Briggs & Morgan both do, and sometimes Dorsey/Faegre/Robins if you go to a top school (think HYS). Another good bet is to look at corporate General Counsel offices, which is a good pipeline into a 2L SA gig because you have a great story to tell--you will have a (/their) client's perspective into the legal business. Look at, for example, Land O' Lakes and United Health.
2) Biglaw 1L summer associates in the Twin Cities earn the same as the 2L summer associates, which is usually pro-rated first year associate salary (~$2100/wk). You can look up the firm NALP page. Some 1L/2L summer associate gigs may come with an extra diversity scholarship on top of the normal salary which can bump up earnings close to/over coastal SA levels.
3) I would say around 8 or 8:30am to 5:30 or 6pm. Nothing too horrendous. Being a summer associate is the best and cushiest job you will have. If you shy away from summer associate hours, you should seriously reconsider whether you want to go into corporate law.